Blue Chip Ratio - Death

[Ethnicsands]

We have a blue chip ratio over 50%. Only 16 teams are in that category.

We have played below our recruiting ranking for 15 years.

I counted 34 4* and 5* kids on the roster shown on this site in the link above. That includes J. Phillips.

Of course it’s true we have underperformed for 15 years.

 

[For_The_U]

Name me the last great o-lineman recruit we landed.

 

[Home Slice]

Go down this list and count how may teams are outperforming their recruiting rankings over the last four years.

Hint: There are virtually none.

Clemson and Wisconsin are the only outliers. They both have a couple of things in common: Coachingccontinuity and a culture of players developing, then staying four and even five years.

Updated 4-year recruiting rankings for all 130: SEC dominates

UGA’s nearly tied Bama as the SEC’s gap grows. Meanwhile, A&M’s 2019 class ranks sixth-best in the SEC, but would have led two other power conferences.

www.sbnation.com

Love what you said about Clemson and Wisconsin. You get it.

 

[Home Slice]

Name me the last great o-lineman recruit we landed.

Bar Milo

 

[PanamaCityCanes]

Another example is L. Cager who transfered to UGA. Currently, he is balling out.

He has 139 yards receiving in four games. He's not in the top 200 in the NCAA in any receiving category. But since he caught a touchdown pass on TV, he must be "balling out".

 

[Ethnicsands]

Name me the last great o-lineman recruit we landed.

Scaife.

 

[nycane]

He has 139 yards receiving in four games. He's not in the top 200 in the NCAA in any receiving category. But since he caught a touchdown pass on TV, he must be "balling out".

that kid was never blue chip. he tricked everyone into thinking he was a bama take. anyone look at that hs tape knew he wasnt a stud.

 

[Cane6]

We’ve recruited 41 blue chips between ‘16-‘19. (1- 5* & 40-4*)

We’ve out recruited 1/2 of teams that’s in the Top 25

However what’s really screwed us is the class of 16, who are supposed to be our Sr. leaders. It wasn’t a big class, but what compounded matters is the shear amount of blue chips that were lost from this class:
Mullins-Transferred
Allison-Transferred
Jackson-Gone
Homer-Gone
Bruce-Kicked off team
Richards-Injured/Retired

So out of the blue chips recruited from that class, Shaq, and Bethel are here, and unfortunately for Bethel, this staff never found a position for him; is he a DT or DE? McCloud was a fringe 4 star and now he’s receiving RS.

Two guys who were considered blue chips from ‘16 are contributing v. the nine we recruited.
As a matter of fact, that whole ‘16 class collapsed:
James-kicked off team
Haskins-kicked off team
Wright-kicked off team
Young-Injured/Retired
Martin-JAG
Johnson-transferred
Harris-transferred

19 players recruited/6 still here/4.5 contributing this season.

Fortunately for 2017, our blue chips are here, w the exception of DJ Johnson (transferred) and Dean (graduates). The only JAG appears to be Herbert, but the jury is out. 7 of the 10 blue chip guys are still here and contributing. The only guys from 17 that bounced was Feagles, Smith, Weldon, but we’re still missing guys like Steed & Wilder due to injuries.

Our problem has been a combo of a plethora of things, but hopefully the 17 class stick around a bit

I can’t remember the last time we had around 20 guys play through senior day

 

[DMoney]

I counted 34 4* and 5* kids on the roster shown on this site in the link above. That includes J. Phillips.

Of course it’s true we have underperformed for 15 years.

Blue-Chip Ratio 2019

This is Bud Elliott’s statistical benchmark for the minimum talent needed in order to win a national title.

www.bannersociety.com

 

[kryptonite]

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Yes. Coaching trumps all.

You're conveniently forgetting how much the coaches have to do with getting that talent.

 

[JHallCanes]

We have far more blue chips than Wisconsin. They eat our lunch whenever they want to.

I mean, you’re both right

 

[JHallCanes]

Scaife.

And Donaldson

 

[Jassid82]

Maybe I'm the only person whos jaw dropped when I saw that Bama out of 82 scholarship players...69 of them are either a 4 or 5*. Good god. Smh.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

Maybe I'm the only person whos jaw dropped when I saw that Bama out of 82 scholarship players...69 of them are either a 4 or 5*. Good god. Smh.

You’re the only one. Booster money trumps all in recruiting. Then, win a shlt ton of NC’s and recruiting gets that much easier. You have kids begging to tap dance for the klan.

 

[Fawk_U Haters]

We’ve recruited 41 blue chips between ‘16-‘19. (1- 5* & 40-4*)

We’ve out recruited 1/2 of teams that’s in the Top 25

However what’s really screwed us is the class of 16, who are supposed to be our Sr. leaders. It wasn’t a big class, but what compounded matters is the shear amount of blue chips that were lost from this class:
Mullins-Transferred
Allison-Transferred
Jackson-Gone
Homer-Gone
Bruce-Kicked off team
Richards-Injured/Retired

So out of the blue chips recruited from that class, Shaq, and Bethel are here, and unfortunately for Bethel, this staff never found a position for him; is he a DT or DE? McCloud was a fringe 4 star and now he’s receiving RS.

Two guys who were considered blue chips from ‘16 are contributing v. the nine we recruited.
As a matter of fact, that whole ‘16 class collapsed:
James-kicked off team
Haskins-kicked off team
Wright-kicked off team
Young-Injured/Retired
Martin-JAG
Johnson-transferred
Harris-transferred

19 players recruited/6 still here/4.5 contributing this season.

Fortunately for 2017, our blue chips are here, w the exception of DJ Johnson (transferred) and Dean (graduates). The only JAG appears to be Herbert, but the jury is out. 7 of the 10 blue chip guys are still here and contributing. The only guys from 17 that bounced was Feagles, Smith, Weldon, but we’re still missing guys like Steed & Wilder due to injuries.

Our problem has been a combo of a plethora of things, but hopefully the 17 class stick around a bit

The only OL of that class was Tre Johnson and he was a complete failure. But your point stands. We have actually never recovered from being short handed because of all the kids that failed out or transfered

 

[OriginalGatorHater]

Maybe I'm the only person whos jaw dropped when I saw that Bama out of 82 scholarship players...69 of them are either a 4 or 5*. Good god. Smh.

Keep in mind Kickers, punters, LS, FBs can't go above 3 stars so its really even crazier when you realize atleast 3 of those 3 stars are not "true 3 stars".

 

[Patreek]

We have a blue chip ratio over 50%. Only 16 teams are in that category.

We have played below our recruiting ranking for 15 years.

This really needs to get through to people at some point. This season my hope was for Miami to win 9-11 games and get on the level of competing with good not great teams like Wisconsin, Michigan State, Michigan, PSU. A number of fans thought those teams were low bars because “this is Miami!”.

I get everyone thinks Miami should recruit top 5-10 classes every year. That’s not reasonable today.

A reasonable expectation would be to just perform at the teams recruiting ranking. This is a top 15-25 in team talent that outside of 2017 gets top 50-75 results.

Until this team performs near its recruiting rankings and blue chip ratio I don’t see the point in whining about not recruiting top 5-10 classes.

We are no better today as a team or a program than FSU or Tennessee, another 2 teams massively underperforming their recruiting rankings. Hopefully by year end this changes.

Until this team plays like a top 25 team and ends seasons ranked I don’t believe getting more blue chips than they have in the past is going to change much.

Development is a way bigger issue today, specifically on the offensive line. It would be eye-opening for a lot of fans to go through all the ranked teams today and see how few good teams start freshmen, redshirt freshmen, or sophomores. It’s a rarity. At Miami fans apparently believe freshmen offensive linemen are all saviors of the program.

 

[Ethnicsands]

Blue-Chip Ratio 2019

This is Bud Elliott’s statistical benchmark for the minimum talent needed in order to win a national title.

www.bannersociety.com

It’s worse than I thought. He doesn’t count transfers. So the number would exclude Phillips and Bolden.

He’s counting _signees_. So guys who sign but don’t enroll, or enroll but left the program for one reason or another, are still counted in his metric. That alone tells you something as our actual roster talent does not match our hypothetical roster talent and hasn’t for ages. Injuries, guys who weren’t getting in, guys who left the program for one reason or another. It’s possible all programs experience a comparable rate of attrition of this sort but I doubt it.

 

[Mandingo]

Go down this list and count how may teams are outperforming their recruiting rankings over the last four years.

Hint: There are virtually none.

Clemson and Wisconsin are the only outliers. They both have a couple of things in common: Coaching continuity and a culture of players developing, then staying four and even five years.

Updated 4-year recruiting rankings for all 130: SEC dominates

UGA’s nearly tied Bama as the SEC’s gap grows. Meanwhile, A&M’s 2019 class ranks sixth-best in the SEC, but would have led two other power conferences.

www.sbnation.com

They both have **** good coaching. Fuels everything else.

 

[Mandingo]

He has 139 yards receiving in four games. He's not in the top 200 in the NCAA in any receiving category. But since he caught a touchdown pass on TV, he must be "balling out".

Yeah - he is still JAG at this point.