Bill Belichick is a worse coach than Dave Wannstedt

I couldn’t care less who was a better or worse coach and don’t give a minute’s thought to either bellicheat or wanstache …

HOWEVER, watching the various meltdowns on this thread and how triggered people are on here, has me laughing my *** off. In that respect, this thread is absolutely priceless. And if it spurs anyone to commit harakiri, which seems entirely plausible, I will consider it the best set of posts since Stonehenge.
 
Not a Belichick fan, but he also constructed the team around Brady. Could argue Brady would have been average at best if drafted by Browns, Lions, Bears, etc. Also saying he botched Kosar is a reach.
Actually Scott Pioli constructed the team for Belichick, just like all other great coaches, a great front office is the key. Biggest mistake teams do is when they give coaches GM control as well
 
This forum is overrun by weirdos who are more unhinged & emotional than Lindsay Clancy supporters. Smh

Instead of wasting time on this forum chasing clout, I suggest these individuals consult a mental health professional immediately, before it becomes too late.
 
Dude, Trestman was only the Browns OC in 88 and 89.

Kosar took the Browns to the ACC championship in 86 and 87, with no Trestman. Kosar was hurt for the 1988 playoff game.
Kosar played in his third ACC Chanpionship Game in 1989, but his numbers paled to 86 and 87.

Kosar held the NFL postseason passings yards record in 1986 season (1987 game) until it was broken by Tom Brady in 2018.
TIL. That driveby shot was more just a snarky reply to state to refute blame on BB for kosar’s post-peak career
 
inaccurate, overly misleading stat.

BB went 36-44; 1-1 in the postseason with the Browns.

0–1 in 2001 without Brady. I’ll cancel out the game Brady entered and lost in 2001, and the game he started, left, & won in 2008.

BB goes 10-5 in 2008 without Brady. In 2016, the patriots went 3-1 without Brady. Jimmy G played so well under BB that people were ****ed when he didn’t get more draft capital when trading him to the 49ers. Moreover, Kyle Shanahan, who initially wanted to draft MAC JONES the following year, then decided to stick with Jimmy G rather than have Tom Brady end his career in San Francisco. Wes Welker was the 49ers WR coach.

Moving on, he went 29-38, 0-1 in the postseason without Brady at the end.

So 1-2 in the postseason without him, and 79-88 overall in the regular season.

Notably, Michigan Wolverine tom Brady went 1-1 against Bill’s former Browns DC Nick Saban; then Michigan State HC
Took mac jones to the playoffs his rookie year and Mac hasn’t been a starter since lol. Won games with Bailey Zappe

Brady says belichick helped him learn how to read defenses, now people say he’s garbage and brady deserves all the credit lmao.
 
Took mac jones to the playoffs his rookie year and Mac hasn’t been a starter since lol. Won games with Bailey Zappe

Brady says belichick helped him learn how to read defenses, now people say he’s garbage and brady deserves all the credit lmao.
Gave Saban the secret formula but he’s mid lol.

I’m coming to accept people don’t watch the games anyways. BB has a literal Austin peavy decommit, UNC walk-on at 6’ 265 DT leading the country in TFL despite playing two P4 teams compared to other programs

But the guy can’t coach lol
 
Gave Saban the secret formula but he’s mid lol.

I’m coming to accept people don’t watch the games anyways. BB has a literal Austin peavy decommit, UNC walk-on at 6’ 265 DT leading the country in TFL despite playing two P4 teams compared to other programs

But the guy can’t coach lol
That’s great and rational and all, but have you considered I hate him and he has massive ****?
 
That’s great and rational and all, but have you considered I hate him and he has massive ****?
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Actually Scott Pioli constructed the team for Belichick, just like all other great coaches, a great front office is the key. Biggest mistake teams do is when they give coaches GM control as well

This is true.
One has to factor the GM and its office supporting the HC.
Don Shula was one of the greatest coaches but he had a great GM in Bobby Beathard during the mid to late 1970s, who helped find many players that made up the "Killer Bees", Dwight Stephenson, Tony Nathan and others.
Beathard leaves for the Redskins early 1980s, and rebuilt that franchise under another great coach in Joe Gibbs. Later did similar for Bobby Ross at San Diego.
I don't doubt Bellichick is a great coach, but he had better support than Wannstedt during his NFL days.
I actually thought had pretty decent teams at Pitt. He found and developed some good players, including some under recruited players from soFla.
 
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