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Pearson704 said:
People have suggested Dan Morgan for AD and Ken spent some time as assistant AD at FIU. Thanks
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I forgot that about Dorsey but that still does not make him qualified to run our AD. Offensive coordinator, sure. AD, absolutely not.
 
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Pearson704 said:
Experience as a sports administrator? Zo has that. You're overselling 'AD Experience' when the money and coaching connections are already in place to support the best product. I'm sure Zo knows coaches from other sports and is familiar with search firms. The rest is vision, leadership and institutional support. Blake had none of those and Zo would have all 3.
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1.) Comparing anyone to Blake is a bad start. That isn't helping your argument and he was probably the worst AD in sports.
2.) I am not over selling anything. I've worked in college athletic departments as well as an NFL front office. I know first hand the importance of it. If anything you are UNDER selling it. Could he absolutely thrive and be a home run and surpass any and all expectations? Sure, but I'd rather play my hand and take my chances with an experienced guy who has done it and done it successfully considering that we are on life support and are literally 0 for with our last few first time guys in important roles. Again, I am all for him being here because he brings tremendous value to this school and specifically this football team, but not in the AD role.

Agree to disagree. Whatever, all good.
 
Pearson704 said:
What will his experience as AD allow him to do that Zo couldn't?
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I’ve never been an AD or know what goes into the day to day aspect of it so I can’t accurately answer that question . I hear what you’re saying tho . Personally I think he could be successful at the job. I just don’t think it’s fair to call it hate when they were simply stating facts .
 
htownkidd said:
1.) Comparing anyone to Blake is a bad start. That isn't helping your argument and he was probably the worst AD in sports.
2.) I am not over selling anything. I've worked in college athletic departments as well as an NFL front office. I know first hand the importance of it. If anything you are UNDER selling it. Could he absolutely thrive and be a home run and surpass any and all expectations? Sure, but I'd rather play my hand and take my chances with an experienced guy who has done it and done it successfully considering that we are on life support and are literally 0 for with our last few first time guys in important roles. Again, I am all for him being here because he brings tremendous value to this school and specifically this football team, but not in the AD role.

Agree to disagree. Whatever, all good.
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1. I think he will thrive because he's a winner with years of organizational experience, who's been around sports his entire life.

2. Please share what skills you believe Zo lacks.

3. His most important decision is hiring the next HC, and he knows quality football coaches better than anyone you could name for the job.

4. As far as raising money goes, he'll have more support walking in the door than anyone you could name for the job.

5. As far as building facilities goes, he has more awareness of the CFB landscape that anyone you can name for the job.

but yea, we can agree to disagree...
 
L A M P said:
By the time we make up our minds, our choices for AD are going to be promoting Strawley or rehiring Blake James.. and giving Manny an extension.
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Yep. I heard one of the board members indicate that "it's just real hard to get seven wins (manny) in college football today". This is the mental mindset we are up against. Status Quo. Being elite again apparently isn't on the approved agenda yet.
 
jjacks93 said:
I’ve never been an AD or know what goes into the day to day aspect of it so I can’t accurately answer that question . I hear what you’re saying tho . Personally I think he could be successful at the job. I just don’t think it’s fair to call it hate when they were simply stating facts .
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Having success and experience at doing something starts with having an opportunity to do the thing. Look across the executive & HC landscape to see who continues to get opportunities and how that shifts the narrative on what qualifies someone to do said job. Time to come off that. Quite frankly, I don't want a conventional hire because Miami isn't a conventional market, program or brand. Bring the guys who understand what this community is about. Miami isn't for everybody.
 
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Storm Cloud said:
Yep. I heard one of the board members indicate that "it's just real hard to get seven wins (manny) in college football today". This is the mental mindset we are up against. Status Quo. Being elite again apparently isn't on the approved agenda yet.
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Well, in that Trustee's defense (SARCASM), his/her ears have been FILLED with excuses over the years, from Golden to Beta Blake to Manny.
 
Pearson704 said:
Having success and experience at doing something starts with having an opportunity to do the thing. Look across the execute & HC landscape to see who continues to get opportunities and how that shifts the narrative on what qualifies someone to do said job. Time to come off that. Quite frankly, I don't what a conventional hire because Miami isn't a conventional market, program, or brand. Bring the guys who understand what this community is about. Miami isn't for everybody.
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you related to Alonzo or something ?
 
Pearson704 said:
objective fan.
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You going real hard for him lol . You might’ve gotten me confused with other posters you were replying to but I never said he couldn’t be successful here . Again , I was only referencing the comment that it’s “hating” to point out he has less experience than Jurich
 
Unsider said:
According to the article, what was supposed to be a reverse vasectomy, is now a full-blown neutering in progress. Let’s just shut the **** program down. This talk about “Culture” only exists at the high drama U. Never heard another college program talk about it. Unbelievable!
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Honestly…I don’t even know what this means? “A Miami guy that understands the culture “??? I mean….just wtf does that mean? Motherfukkers eat soup with a fork down there or what?!?! WHAT THE *** DOES THAT MEAN?!?!?! It’s all such bullsh1t.
 
Storm Cloud said:
Yep. I heard one of the board members indicate that "it's just real hard to get seven wins (manny) in college football today". This is the mental mindset we are up against. Status Quo. Being elite again apparently isn't on the approved agenda yet.
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Actually, it’s really hard to lose 5 games at Miami. That’s why all the asshats who lost 5 games multiple times at Miami never got another chance to be a HC. Cause if you can’t crap out 9 wins with your eyes closed here, you aren’t worth a **** as a HC.

That’s why Richt won 10 games in year 2 (!) with an offense from 1999 and a QB who couldn’t throw….it ain’t that hard.
 
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I don't think highly of some of the school brass with influence in the athletic department, but, IMO, not a chance they bring Diaz back.

Between ****ed off fans, donors, etc, the flow of money into the school's coffers would be cut significantly.

Something is in the works behind the scenes. I think the new AD hire will also influence the choice of new head coach, not exactly a package deal, but something akin to it.

Let's not get our panties in a wad until Manny's buyout drops.
 
Rd745 said:
Actually, it’s really hard to lose 5 games at Miami. That’s why all the asshats who lost 5 games multiple times at Miami never got another chance to be a HC. Cause if you can’t crap out 9 wins with your eyes closed here, you aren’t worth a **** as a HC.

That’s why Richt won 10 games in year 2 (!) with an offense from 1999 and a QB who couldn’t throw….it ain’t that hard.
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Exactly and somehow the board thinks keeping a five loss manny keeps us relevant in college football. Funny when Richt retired manny said it wasn't a rebuild at all and we'd be balling every season at the top...... yep and he makes losing five games a season common place
 
UM is finally trying to be serious about football but is tripping over their own 2 feet. They fired Blake which was the right move, but they waited too long. There was zero reason to not have fired him earlier in the year, have conducted a proper search process, brought someone in, and given that person 90 days to complete an autopsy of the program, where its failures have been, what its culture currently is, what it needs to be, and what the right HC candidate should look like. It's clear that the AD needs to be someone who is a builder and has successfully built/ rebuilt before. We don't need a closer because our organizational infrastructure isn't there.

The AD should then have made a list of who might be the right guy for the program, someone aligned with that vision, and then targeted that person. We need a foundation builder at UM at the HC position as well. Someone who can set the culture, the toughness, the accountability, and do the fundamentals well- both organizationally and from a team standpoint.

I love Zo, but he isn't the right guy for AD. Can he be groomed for that role? Sure, but he isn't the right guy for right now. He doesn't have admin excellence around him. We will be setting him up to fail statistically. From a HC standpoint, I love Lane, but he isn't the right guy for right now. We need Mario, Stoops, or someone of that ilk to be the guy now. Lane is a closer, doesn't have the infrastructure at UM to cover his deficiencies, and will likely ultimately flame out here. You don't have to read between the lines. Simply read the lines, read what others have said about him. There are some real issues with him.

Get a proper AD. Hire Mario or someone similar.
 
Pearson704 said:
Having success and experience at doing something starts with having an opportunity to do the thing. Look across the executive & HC landscape to see who continues to get opportunities and how that shifts the narrative on what qualifies someone to do said job. Time to come off that. Quite frankly, I don't what a conventional hire because Miami isn't a conventional market, program or brand. Bring the guys who understand what this community is about. Miami isn't for everybody.
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And you get those experiences at smaller schools first. Same reason people didn’t want Manny to get his first HC gig at Miami. There is a massive learning curve and it’s about as toxic of a situation as possible.
 
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