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da truth

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Both meeting soon too talk. I predict something similar to what the acc has with nd
 
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Just saw something:

FSU & Clemson reportedly reached out to The SEC about joining.

Kansas to the B1G is imminent

WVA to the ACC is imminent

LA Tech & Louisiana in talks of joining B12

AAC looking to scoop up B12 teams in hopes of becoming a P5.
 
SpikeUM said:
Either ND joins the ACC or we end up with the B1G
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I think there's a better chance that we end up in a different conference than ND joining us unless the Tobacco Road mafia somehow makes them an offer they can't refuse. I would love to have ND join the conference in football by the way.

But do we really fit in the B1G? I guess that would be the only other conference left on the east coast but that just seems like a different brand of football than we play.
 
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canesbaby said:
I think there's a better chance that we end up in a different conference than ND joining us unless the Tobacco Road mafia somehow makes them an offer they can't refuse. I would love to have ND join the conference in football by the way.

But do we really fit in the B1G? I guess that would be the only other conference left on the east coast but that just seems like a different brand of football than we play.
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Are we really a good fit for the ACC? Its a North Carolina centric basketball conference. I dont think there is a fool proof answer, my comment was more because of what @jmccomber5 wrote - we may have no choice.
 
Rellyrell said:
Just saw something:

FSU & Clemson reportedly reached out to The SEC about joining.

Kansas to the B1G is imminent

WVA to the ACC is imminent

LA Tech & Louisiana in talks of joining B12

AAC looking to scoop up B12 teams in hopes of becoming a P5.
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The buyout for any acc team to leave is well over a hundred million with acc media rights through 2036

they are going nowhere anytime soon
 
Rellyrell said:
Just saw something:

FSU & Clemson reportedly reached out to The SEC about joining.

Kansas to the B1G is imminent

WVA to the ACC is imminent

LA Tech & Louisiana in talks of joining B12

AAC looking to scoop up B12 teams in hopes of becoming a P5.
Click to expand...

I'd rather be part of an expanding AAC than than the ACC without FSU/Clemson. Do we need to grovel to join one of the other existing major conferences to be relevant? Being part of the Big East (a conference with Temple) didn't stop us from becoming national Champs.

If the AAC really wants to "conference like a boss" and signs exclusive rights with Amazon or Netflix, I think Miami would be wise to join. Imagine every time you went to the Amazon site to buy something, the site was filled with ads for an upcoming Miami game and anyone around the world could watch it on Prime. No need to buy special acc packages on cable or pay $25 for Disney/ESPN Ultra Plus Elite to watch the Canes on espn8.

Oh btw here is an interesting read on conference merger mania from the good ol' days

www.latimes.com

U of Miami Joins the Big East Conference

The University of Miami joined the Big East Conference today in an alliance that Commissioner Mike Tranghese said would save the conference.
www.latimes.com www.latimes.com
 
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TimeBum said:
I'd rather be part of an expanding AAC than than the ACC without FSU/Clemson. Do we need to grovel to join one of the other existing major conferences to be relevant? Being part of the Big East didn't stop us from becoming national Champs.
If the AAC really wants to conference like a boss and signs exclusive rights with Amazon or Netflix, I think Miami would be wise to join. Imagine every time you went to the Amazon site to buy something, the site was filled with ads for an upcoming Miami game and anyone around the world could watch it on Prime. No need to buy special acc packages on cable or pay $25 for Disney/ESPN Ultra Plus Elite to watch the Canes on espn8.

Oh btw here is an interesting read on conference merger mania from the good ol' days

www.latimes.com

U of Miami Joins the Big East Conference

The University of Miami joined the Big East Conference today in an alliance that Commissioner Mike Tranghese said would save the conference.
www.latimes.com www.latimes.com
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No acc team is leaving. This talking point needs to stop. No team financially can afford it, members are bound to the league through its media rights deal through the 2035-2036 academic year.

The grant of rights works like this… if a school wants to leave the ACC, it would have to pay $26 million (the average annual cost of the media deal) times the number of years remaining on the TV contract. This was largely done because og member Maryland went to big 10 and to prevent other acc teams from leaving.

So if the Big Ten wanted us or the SEC wanted Clemson after the 2021 football season, it would cost $390 million.
 
We did well in football as an independent.

We did well in the Big East.

Notre Dame did well as an independent.

When independent - you get to choose your opponents without conference considerations - and you don't have to share what you make with weak conference teams.

On the other hand, if you suck at football, but you're in a big conference - you get more money than you deserve. And we've sucked for a while.
 
Rellyrell said:
BTW; The NCAA needs to be absolutely disbanded. All of this is total b.s. From the NIL lack of regulations or structure, to teams just up & leaving conferences to make super conferences which interferes w/ judgement & bias w/in the CFP committee!
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Hence their pending crisis management "Constitutional Convention"
 
da truth said:
No acc team is leaving. This talking point needs to stop. No team financially can afford it, members are bound to the league through its media tights deal through the 2035-2036 academic year.

The grant of rights works like this… if a school wants to leave the ACC, it would have to pay $26 million (the average annual cost of the media deal) times the number of years remaining on the TV contract.

So if the Big Ten wanted us or the SEC wanted Clemson after the 2021 football season, it would cost $390 million.
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I agree except for if the schools vote to dissolve the conference. If enough acc teams get invitations extended by other conferences, I don't think they need a unanimous vote to dissolve the conference (I believe 12 of 15 have to vote aye). If the conference is gone, then so is the GOR. Quite a few acc teams are a natural fit with the Big10. Then you have FSU and Clemson for the SEC. Already more than halfway there. I wouldn't put it past the SEC to make a run at a couple of other ACC schools like UVA or UNC (would immediately give them academic credentials ) in order to get the number of acc schools with invitations to 12 in order to kill the acc.
 
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