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where are the top DTs?

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thats HILARIOUS. 3 of those guys havent played a single down and are/were not considered elite DTs during their recruitment.

1 of those guys was highly rated but projects to the 3-4 DE in this garbage scheme

FAIL

I could give you the laundry list of elite DTs that this staph lost out of our own backyard but its tiresome

Have those "others" played a down?

So we have an elite guy according to your criteria, but projects as a DE?

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none of those guys except for arguably Hamilton were "elite" as recruits. thats the main point. sorry you get confused.

Hamilton is a DE/DT tweener and projects to a 3-4 DE in this "scheme"

Don't reply back bro, you don't even know who he is.

fyi - its not "Hamilton"

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I love it when people **** on Golden and make fun of "the cloud"...guarantee this wasnt being said when the **** hit the fan. He might not get the job done how we want but dont act like "the cloud" wasnt a big ****ing deal.

Can't tell if surious.

It wasn't fans that brought up "THE CLOUD" every few minutes - year after year - it was Golden that kept bringing up THE CLOUD. I think a lot of us got so tired of hearing the term, and hearing it used as an excuse for ****poor coaching - that now it's become an integral part of Miami Hurricane Football.

Established and entrenched entirely by Al Golden.

No, it wasn't said when the SHTF, because it took him weeks to find this terminology.

THE CLOUD is all Al's.
 

thats HILARIOUS. 3 of those guys havent played a single down and are/were not considered elite DTs during their recruitment.

1 of those guys was highly rated but projects to the 3-4 DE in this garbage scheme

FAIL

I could give you the laundry list of elite DTs that this staph lost out of our own backyard but its tiresome

Have those "others" played a down?

So we have an elite guy according to your criteria, but projects as a DE?

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none of those guys except for arguably Hamilton were "elite" as recruits. thats the main point. sorry you get confused.

Hamilton is a DE/DT tweener and projects to a 3-4 DE in this "scheme"

Don't reply back bro, you don't even know who he is.

fyi - its not "Hamilton"

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excuse me they both went to STA and both havent done anything here. the point remains. elite DTs do not come here because they can see their career will be ruined
 
thats HILARIOUS. 3 of those guys havent played a single down and are/were not considered elite DTs during their recruitment.

1 of those guys was highly rated but projects to the 3-4 DE in this garbage scheme

FAIL

I could give you the laundry list of elite DTs that this staph lost out of our own backyard but its tiresome

Have those "others" played a down?

So we have an elite guy according to your criteria, but projects as a DE?

460.gif

none of those guys except for arguably Hamilton were "elite" as recruits. thats the main point. sorry you get confused.

Hamilton is a DE/DT tweener and projects to a 3-4 DE in this "scheme"

Don't reply back bro, you don't even know who he is.

fyi - its not "Hamilton"

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excuse me they both went to STA and both havent done anything here. the point remains. elite DTs do not come here because they can see their career will be ruined

Sorry you were confused.

Seeing how Moten, the elite DT, just got here, you are right, he has not done anything yet.

Seriously, stop posting.

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It wasn't just Jameis. The whole roster was stacked. The rapist struggled for much of the title game but they were able to overcome it.

Point being, if Godlen can parlay the Jaquan Johnson commit into a another great class of studs who also sign on we will see wins regardless of coaching. This can easily be a consistent 10-2 team, even with the BS we are used to on gameday.

I'm not saying it was just Jameis. And for Zone (who messaged me elsewhere), it's not about FSU winning the Orange Bowl. The conversation was about last year and in the context of Jimbo certifying through a Championship. An enormous percentage of that comes from Winston's ability to do things that EJ Manuel could not. It's not to say they aren't talented at all. On the contrary, they've been extremely talented before. Often times, you need a player (QB) to tie it together. Hence, the Mack Brown and Vince Young example.

Also, we're not talking about Jimbo vs Golden. Golden hasn't been able to show he can do what Jimbo did even in 2010. That team came down here and stomped us out. We were talented. We were in shambles, but talented. Anyone talking about Jimbo in relation to Golden, at least with current evidence, is talking about a heavyweight vs a middleweight - as an analogy, not literally.
 
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Sorry you were confused.

Seeing how Moten, the elite DT, just got here, you are right, he has not done anything yet.

Seriously, stop posting.

the point remains that Moten is not a pure NT (which is what this team desperately needs and F/A/G cant get). Moten is a 3-4 DE or 4-3 DT.

F/A/G cant get what this team needs cus his defense is career suicide and the elite kids generally recognize this:

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Clark
Bostwick
Bryant

I'm forgetting some.

idiot
 
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Remember that time they said top recruits didn't want to come play for this coach?

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where are the top DTs?

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thats HILARIOUS. 3 of those guys havent played a single down

Sorry you were confused.

Seeing how Moten, the elite DT, just got here, you are right, he has not done anything yet.

Seriously, stop posting.

the point remains that Moten is not a pure NT (which is what this team desperately needs and F/A/G cant get). Moten is a 3-4 DE or 4-3 DT.

F/A/G cant get what this team needs cus his defense is career suicide and the elite kids generally recognize this:

Valentine
Clark
Bostwick
Bryant

I'm forgetting some.

idiot

You started looking for DT's and NOW it's pure NT's? LMFAO!

According to your criteria, what have those you mentioned done so far in college?

Seriously, stop posting.
 
Ultimately, the talent will show, even if they get out maneuvered on gameday.

Look at FSU. Jimbo didn't wake up last fall with a new coaching brain. For years, he had underachieved on gameday and perennially had the best 4 loss team in the country. Well, he had more or less 3 no. 1 classes in a row and surprise surprise...he raped the whole country last year.

I'm not saying we will win a ship with Golden, but I am saying if he keeps crootin like he's crootin without the cloud, this will be a pretty good football team....like a perennially top 15 team.

We are no where near the number one class. we aren't even in top 5 for the past three seasons i believe.

not to mention the fact that the key position still lack talent.

namely Dt.
We are the number one class for 2016 so far which is really the first one not impacted much by the cloud. Just saying. Recruiting begins in fresh and soph years. So 2015 class somewhat impacted if not a ton. Sorry about facts and I'm not a golden apologist.
LMAO. I won't say the NCAA investigation didn't impact recruiting but lulz at 2016 being the first class not impacted by the cloud.
 
But he can't.

What do you think of Coker?

Unless Coker was made Head Coach in the last three or four minutes, that has to be the dumbest question I ever heard.

Got one for you. Ever see a timely adjustment during a game that stopped what our opponent was doing, or an adjustment to take advantage of what our opponent was doing?

Didn't think so.


''Unless Coker was made Head Coach in the last three or four minutes, that has to be the dumbest question I ever heard.''

Hahaha, GTFOOH, the dumbest question you ever heard on this board?

Coker won a NC on the other coaches players, he sucked. They didn't need a great coach on that 2001 because they had great talent. Coker sucked at recruiting too. If Golden keeps up with this recruiting, talent will be more important than anything else, as far as I'm concerned the jury is out. Golden's hands have been tied up to this point, he had very little talent at all as you can see by how many great players we had drafted in the past 3 years. Couldn't get a great QB to come here with the NCAA looking down our throat. We had a handful of real good players come here in the past 3 years, you don't win **** with that.

How about you train ten under sized geeks with all your experience and let them fight some kick *** fighters hand to hand who have never been trained. Your guys would still get their asses kicked, it is what it is. Talent rules! If one of our QB's play well we have a great chance to have a real good season, we have talent but not where it needs to be to win against top teams, again, it is what it is. We don't know what Golden can do with top talent, we haven't had it yet. We have some very good talent in some area's but in others we are in trouble.

Saban had the absolute top recruited talent he still lost 2 games. If you don't think the NCAA had a huge amount to do with our average football classes you really haven't paid attention. You think it really matters who coaches Chad? Guy is going pro because of his talent. We had one great rb last year, no D line, a bad QB, one very good LBer and a bunch of young players that Golden recruited. You really want to count Golden's first year of recruiting? lol

Next year is the year we see if Golden can coach, when he has a good QB that's been in the system for more than 3 months. Come on now!

We didn't have the talent to adjust to anything!
 
But he can't.

What do you think of Coker?

Unless Coker was made Head Coach in the last three or four minutes, that has to be the dumbest question I ever heard.

Got one for you. Ever see a timely adjustment during a game that stopped what our opponent was doing, or an adjustment to take advantage of what our opponent was doing?

Didn't think so.


''Unless Coker was made Head Coach in the last three or four minutes, that has to be the dumbest question I ever heard.''

Hahaha, GTFOOH, the dumbest question you ever heard on this board?

Coker won a NC on the other coaches players, he sucked. They didn't need a great coach on that 2001 because they had great talent. Coker sucked at recruiting too. If Golden keeps up with this recruiting, talent will be more important than anything else, as far as I'm concerned the jury is out. Golden's hands have been tied up to this point, he had very little talent at all as you can see by how many great players we had drafted in the past 3 years. Couldn't get a great QB to come here with the NCAA looking down our throat. We had a handful of real good players come here in the past 3 years, you don't win **** with that.

How about you train ten under sized geeks with all your experience and let them fight some kick *** fighters hand to hand who have never been trained. Your guys would still get their asses kicked, it is what it is. Talent rules! If one of our QB's play well we have a great chance to have a real good season, we have talent but not where it needs to be to win against top teams, again, it is what it is. We don't know what Golden can do with top talent, we haven't had it yet. We have some very good talent in some area's but in others we are in trouble.

Saban had the absolute top recruited talent he still lost 2 games. If you don't think the NCAA had a huge amount to do with our average football classes you really haven't paid attention. You think it really matters who coaches Chad? Guy is going pro because of his talent. We had one great rb last year, no D line, a bad QB, one very good LBer and a bunch of young players that Golden recruited. You really want to count Golden's first year of recruiting? lol

Next year is the year we see if Golden can coach, when he has a good QB that's been in the system for more than 3 months. Come on now!

We didn't have the talent to adjust to anything!

In the first place, Coker was here ten years ago, thus your connection is a broke-*** connection and makes no sense at all.

Just for your edification, I have taken undersized men - all thin, all illiterate, all just past stone-age development. More than ten though. And no one is going to ever fight to another's strengths - which is why I know for a fact that you don't know WTF you speak of.

The kill ratio of the US Army troops with artillery support, air support, top equipment, and educated, experienced a 4:1 documented kill ratio.

Those "undersized" illiterates we trained? They enjoyed a documented 33:1 kill ratio. That's eight times better performance than US troops.

Oh. And they weren't talented at all. Had to start from scratch. And we were arming them with WWII/Korea era weapons.

Don't ever presume to know WTF you're talking about when it comes who what I know, what I do, or what I've done. You don't know siht.

You guys always are saying, "Next year . . . " Three years gone, this one upon us, and you're wanting yet another! You're a jenius.

We had weeks, not years to win out fights, including preparation.
 
Jelani Hamilton is sort of a one-off situation. He was a high four star kid with offers from everyone and was ranked as a top 10 D lineman nationally by Rivals. Coach Golden absolutely had to recruit him. That said, I saw him play 3 times in high school and didn't think very highly of him. He played lazy and was often the beneficiary of being on a dominant D line that had joey Bosa, who I thought the world of when he was a junior. But again, a Miami Hurricanes coach cannot walk away from a kid like Jelani Hamilton from a skool like STA. It is what it is.
 
But he can't.

What do you think of Coker?

Unless Coker was made Head Coach in the last three or four minutes, that has to be the dumbest question I ever heard.

Got one for you. Ever see a timely adjustment during a game that stopped what our opponent was doing, or an adjustment to take advantage of what our opponent was doing?

Didn't think so.


''Unless Coker was made Head Coach in the last three or four minutes, that has to be the dumbest question I ever heard.''

Hahaha, GTFOOH, the dumbest question you ever heard on this board?

Coker won a NC on the other coaches players, he sucked. They didn't need a great coach on that 2001 because they had great talent. Coker sucked at recruiting too. If Golden keeps up with this recruiting, talent will be more important than anything else, as far as I'm concerned the jury is out. Golden's hands have been tied up to this point, he had very little talent at all as you can see by how many great players we had drafted in the past 3 years. Couldn't get a great QB to come here with the NCAA looking down our throat. We had a handful of real good players come here in the past 3 years, you don't win **** with that.

How about you train ten under sized geeks with all your experience and let them fight some kick *** fighters hand to hand who have never been trained. Your guys would still get their asses kicked, it is what it is. Talent rules! If one of our QB's play well we have a great chance to have a real good season, we have talent but not where it needs to be to win against top teams, again, it is what it is. We don't know what Golden can do with top talent, we haven't had it yet. We have some very good talent in some area's but in others we are in trouble.

Saban had the absolute top recruited talent he still lost 2 games. If you don't think the NCAA had a huge amount to do with our average football classes you really haven't paid attention. You think it really matters who coaches Chad? Guy is going pro because of his talent. We had one great rb last year, no D line, a bad QB, one very good LBer and a bunch of young players that Golden recruited. You really want to count Golden's first year of recruiting? lol

Next year is the year we see if Golden can coach, when he has a good QB that's been in the system for more than 3 months. Come on now!

We didn't have the talent to adjust to anything!

In the first place, Coker was here ten years ago, thus your connection is a broke-*** connection and makes no sense at all.

Just for your edification, I have taken undersized men - all thin, all illiterate, all just past stone-age development. More than ten though. And no one is going to ever fight to another's strengths - which is why I know for a fact that you don't know WTF you speak of.

The kill ratio of the US Army troops with artillery support, air support, top equipment, and educated, experienced a 4:1 documented kill ratio.

Those "undersized" illiterates we trained? They enjoyed a documented 33:1 kill ratio. That's eight times better performance than US troops.

Oh. And they weren't talented at all. Had to start from scratch. And we were arming them with WWII/Korea era weapons.

Don't ever presume to know WTF you're talking about when it comes who what I know, what I do, or what I've done. You don't know siht.

You guys always are saying, "Next year . . . " Three years gone, this one upon us, and you're wanting yet another! You're a jenius.

We had weeks, not years to win out fights, including preparation.

''Just for your edification, I have taken undersized men - all thin, all illiterate, all just past stone-age development. More than ten though. And no one is going to ever fight to another's strengths - which is why I know for a fact that you don't know WTF you speak of.''

Learn to read, I said hand to hand, can't bring guns on a football field either, SMH!

You can train all the 120 pound geeks all you want, hand to hand they will get their asses kicked 95+% of the time from a good 200lb street fighter don't care what you think. I said it again, hand to hand, no tanks, no rifles, no hand guns, no knifes or no bazooka's lol. Again I said geeks.

Just like on the football field a team with loads of talent will crush a team with much less talent. You can't teach speed, quickness, or someone with natural ability. I watched Duke in HS, nobody could control him because he was just too **** talented, a bunch of less talented kids were never going to stop him even if Bill Belichick was coaching them. Don't turn this into something stupid, I said geeks, I compare them to less talented football players.

I brought up Coker to show even a bad coach could win with superior talent, I thought you would put 2 and 2 together, my bad!
 
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What do you think of Coker?

Unless Coker was made Head Coach in the last three or four minutes, that has to be the dumbest question I ever heard.

Got one for you. Ever see a timely adjustment during a game that stopped what our opponent was doing, or an adjustment to take advantage of what our opponent was doing?

Didn't think so.


''Unless Coker was made Head Coach in the last three or four minutes, that has to be the dumbest question I ever heard.''

Hahaha, GTFOOH, the dumbest question you ever heard on this board?

Coker won a NC on the other coaches players, he sucked. They didn't need a great coach on that 2001 because they had great talent. Coker sucked at recruiting too. If Golden keeps up with this recruiting, talent will be more important than anything else, as far as I'm concerned the jury is out. Golden's hands have been tied up to this point, he had very little talent at all as you can see by how many great players we had drafted in the past 3 years. Couldn't get a great QB to come here with the NCAA looking down our throat. We had a handful of real good players come here in the past 3 years, you don't win **** with that.

How about you train ten under sized geeks with all your experience and let them fight some kick *** fighters hand to hand who have never been trained. Your guys would still get their asses kicked, it is what it is. Talent rules! If one of our QB's play well we have a great chance to have a real good season, we have talent but not where it needs to be to win against top teams, again, it is what it is. We don't know what Golden can do with top talent, we haven't had it yet. We have some very good talent in some area's but in others we are in trouble.

Saban had the absolute top recruited talent he still lost 2 games. If you don't think the NCAA had a huge amount to do with our average football classes you really haven't paid attention. You think it really matters who coaches Chad? Guy is going pro because of his talent. We had one great rb last year, no D line, a bad QB, one very good LBer and a bunch of young players that Golden recruited. You really want to count Golden's first year of recruiting? lol

Next year is the year we see if Golden can coach, when he has a good QB that's been in the system for more than 3 months. Come on now!

We didn't have the talent to adjust to anything!

In the first place, Coker was here ten years ago, thus your connection is a broke-*** connection and makes no sense at all.

Just for your edification, I have taken undersized men - all thin, all illiterate, all just past stone-age development. More than ten though. And no one is going to ever fight to another's strengths - which is why I know for a fact that you don't know WTF you speak of.

The kill ratio of the US Army troops with artillery support, air support, top equipment, and educated, experienced a 4:1 documented kill ratio.

Those "undersized" illiterates we trained? They enjoyed a documented 33:1 kill ratio. That's eight times better performance than US troops.

Oh. And they weren't talented at all. Had to start from scratch. And we were arming them with WWII/Korea era weapons.

Don't ever presume to know WTF you're talking about when it comes who what I know, what I do, or what I've done. You don't know siht.

You guys always are saying, "Next year . . . " Three years gone, this one upon us, and you're wanting yet another! You're a jenius.

We had weeks, not years to win out fights, including preparation.

''Just for your edification, I have taken undersized men - all thin, all illiterate, all just past stone-age development. More than ten though. And no one is going to ever fight to another's strengths - which is why I know for a fact that you don't know WTF you speak of.''

Learn to read, I said hand to hand, can't bring guns on a football field either, SMH!

You can train all the 120 pound geeks all you want, hand to hand they will get their asses kicked 95+% of the time from a good 200lb street fighter don't care what you think. I said it again, hand to hand, no tanks, no rifles, no hand guns, no knifes or no bazooka's lol. Again I said geeks.

Just like on the football field a team with loads of talent will crush a team with much less talent. You can't teach speed, quickness, or someone with natural ability. I watched Duke in HS, nobody could control him because he was just too **** talented, a bunch of less talented kids were never going to stop him even if Bill Belichick was coaching them. Don't turn this into something stupid, I said geeks, I compare them to less talented football players.

I brought up Coker to show even a bad coach could win with superior talent, I thought you would put 2 and 2 together, my bad!

You're the one who needs reading comprehension. I already told you. Only an idiot would fight to the opponent's strengths. ****, you're too dumb to understand that. Why in **** would someone at a distinct disadvantage size wise, fight his fight? Just because you proposed it?

How about being smarter. Teach them to use equalizers. Your examples and your logic are as retarded as any typical kid who wants to get into discussions with grown men. Maybe you should sit this out for a few years until you've actually gotten some real life experiences that may or may not be pertinent to the topic of the moment.

Why would you suggest that weapons can't be used on a football field? Did anyone suggest such a thing? Besides you?

You're the ****** who brought up my experience, and then you are the dumbass who referred to training little people. I did that. So what's your ****** point? Why do you talk in circles, just to contrive an argument? You ask a question - assuming that I've maybe never done anything like that - and when you find out I have, you alter the argument again, like a snot-nosed punk.

Coker was NOT handed fresh, all freshmen five-stars. You simple minded idiot - they had lots of game experience, and didn't need a whole lot of coaching the basics!

It wasn't talent! It was experienced talent! ****, how can anyone be so intentionally stupid? Never seen anyone cherry pick so few variables, and then paint a wide canvass with it like you do.

Coming to CIS at times and having to listen to outright uninformed BS like this poster continually puts out does provide me with lots of laughs, but at the same time, I am baffled how in Hades someone like this could get past the sixth grade.
 
Coker couldn't recruit someone said. I suggest you go back and look at where his classes ranked and then compare them to what the Golden one has done. Get back to me once you do that.

The problem Coker had, the same one Shannon had, and the one Golden has had so far are all one and the same. They could recruit just fine, but they sucked at developing that talent as well as game day coaching.

The other issue that's been a reoccurring theme under them all is stacked / loaded classes. We'll load up on 72 WR's and LB's one year because we lost that many when we should spread out getting those need positions. A few years down the line we have 3 or 4 seniors, a junior and sophomore, but no Frosh. You lose those guys and we're stuck with inexperience at the position besides a guy or two. All of them also really hated the idea of redshirting someone and would often burn that shirt in the most perplexing and dumbass way possible.

Recruiting hasn't been the problem under any of our last three coaches and that's easy to see. Yes, it could've been better, but we've got guys everyone wanted come here and never do a thing. It's been happening at an alarming rate. It's not bad luck, it's been bad coaching and decision making, that's it.
 
Unless Coker was made Head Coach in the last three or four minutes, that has to be the dumbest question I ever heard.

Got one for you. Ever see a timely adjustment during a game that stopped what our opponent was doing, or an adjustment to take advantage of what our opponent was doing?

Didn't think so.


''Unless Coker was made Head Coach in the last three or four minutes, that has to be the dumbest question I ever heard.''

Hahaha, GTFOOH, the dumbest question you ever heard on this board?

Coker won a NC on the other coaches players, he sucked. They didn't need a great coach on that 2001 because they had great talent. Coker sucked at recruiting too. If Golden keeps up with this recruiting, talent will be more important than anything else, as far as I'm concerned the jury is out. Golden's hands have been tied up to this point, he had very little talent at all as you can see by how many great players we had drafted in the past 3 years. Couldn't get a great QB to come here with the NCAA looking down our throat. We had a handful of real good players come here in the past 3 years, you don't win **** with that.

How about you train ten under sized geeks with all your experience and let them fight some kick *** fighters hand to hand who have never been trained. Your guys would still get their asses kicked, it is what it is. Talent rules! If one of our QB's play well we have a great chance to have a real good season, we have talent but not where it needs to be to win against top teams, again, it is what it is. We don't know what Golden can do with top talent, we haven't had it yet. We have some very good talent in some area's but in others we are in trouble.

Saban had the absolute top recruited talent he still lost 2 games. If you don't think the NCAA had a huge amount to do with our average football classes you really haven't paid attention. You think it really matters who coaches Chad? Guy is going pro because of his talent. We had one great rb last year, no D line, a bad QB, one very good LBer and a bunch of young players that Golden recruited. You really want to count Golden's first year of recruiting? lol

Next year is the year we see if Golden can coach, when he has a good QB that's been in the system for more than 3 months. Come on now!

We didn't have the talent to adjust to anything!

In the first place, Coker was here ten years ago, thus your connection is a broke-*** connection and makes no sense at all.

Just for your edification, I have taken undersized men - all thin, all illiterate, all just past stone-age development. More than ten though. And no one is going to ever fight to another's strengths - which is why I know for a fact that you don't know WTF you speak of.

The kill ratio of the US Army troops with artillery support, air support, top equipment, and educated, experienced a 4:1 documented kill ratio.

Those "undersized" illiterates we trained? They enjoyed a documented 33:1 kill ratio. That's eight times better performance than US troops.

Oh. And they weren't talented at all. Had to start from scratch. And we were arming them with WWII/Korea era weapons.

Don't ever presume to know WTF you're talking about when it comes who what I know, what I do, or what I've done. You don't know siht.

You guys always are saying, "Next year . . . " Three years gone, this one upon us, and you're wanting yet another! You're a jenius.

We had weeks, not years to win out fights, including preparation.

''Just for your edification, I have taken undersized men - all thin, all illiterate, all just past stone-age development. More than ten though. And no one is going to ever fight to another's strengths - which is why I know for a fact that you don't know WTF you speak of.''

Learn to read, I said hand to hand, can't bring guns on a football field either, SMH!

You can train all the 120 pound geeks all you want, hand to hand they will get their asses kicked 95+% of the time from a good 200lb street fighter don't care what you think. I said it again, hand to hand, no tanks, no rifles, no hand guns, no knifes or no bazooka's lol. Again I said geeks.

Just like on the football field a team with loads of talent will crush a team with much less talent. You can't teach speed, quickness, or someone with natural ability. I watched Duke in HS, nobody could control him because he was just too **** talented, a bunch of less talented kids were never going to stop him even if Bill Belichick was coaching them. Don't turn this into something stupid, I said geeks, I compare them to less talented football players.

I brought up Coker to show even a bad coach could win with superior talent, I thought you would put 2 and 2 together, my bad!

You're the one who needs reading comprehension. I already told you. Only an idiot would fight to the opponent's strengths. ****, you're too dumb to understand that. Why in **** would someone at a distinct disadvantage size wise, fight his fight? Just because you proposed it?

How about being smarter. Teach them to use equalizers. Your examples and your logic are as retarded as any typical kid who wants to get into discussions with grown men. Maybe you should sit this out for a few years until you've actually gotten some real life experiences that may or may not be pertinent to the topic of the moment.

Why would you suggest that weapons can't be used on a football field? Did anyone suggest such a thing? Besides you?

You're the ****** who brought up my experience, and then you are the dumbass who referred to training little people. I did that. So what's your ****** point? Why do you talk in circles, just to contrive an argument? You ask a question - assuming that I've maybe never done anything like that - and when you find out I have, you alter the argument again, like a snot-nosed punk.

Coker was NOT handed fresh, all freshmen five-stars. You simple minded idiot - they had lots of game experience, and didn't need a whole lot of coaching the basics!

It wasn't talent! It was experienced talent! ****, how can anyone be so intentionally stupid? Never seen anyone cherry pick so few variables, and then paint a wide canvass with it like you do.

Coming to CIS at times and having to listen to outright uninformed BS like this poster continually puts out does provide me with lots of laughs, but at the same time, I am baffled how in Hades someone like this could get past the sixth grade.


''You're the one who needs reading comprehension. I already told you. Only an idiot would fight to the opponent's strengths. ****, you're too dumb to understand that. Why in **** would someone at a distinct disadvantage size wise, fight his fight? Just because you proposed it?''

You have got to be kidding me? I was comparing apples to apples, you want to give the geeks weapons, lol. You think you could have trained the kids Duke played against well enough to stop him? Didn't matter what size his opponents were they couldn't stop him because he had superior talent. The geek could fight any way he wanted without weapons, lol. Just making a point your geek boys would get their asses kicked almost every single time against a superior opponent, there is no other point I'm trying to make, get it?

''How about being smarter. Teach them to use equalizers.''

I guess every coach Duke faced was not as smart as you, so how would you have stopped Duke? lol Can't wait to hear this one! Some times there is no equalizer that can be taught, sometimes someone is just plain and simple superior in what they do.

''Why would you suggest that weapons can't be used on a football field? Did anyone suggest such a thing? Besides you?''

I brought up hand to hand combat and you bring up weapons, lol.

''You're the ****** who brought up my experience, and then you are the dumbass who referred to training little people. I did that. So what's your ****** point?

My point was, since you can't get it on your own, you can't train inferior talent to beat superior talent 95% of the time and Miami has had inferior talent under Golden because of the NCAA ****. Get it?

''assuming that I've maybe never done anything like that - and when you find out I have, you alter the argument again''

I know you've done it, I've probably seen 500 of your posts, You added weapons to the geeks, I said hand to hand, sorry you can't read.

''Coker was NOT handed fresh, all freshmen five-stars. You simple minded idiot - they had lots of game experience, and didn't need a whole lot of coaching the basics! ''

That was not my point, my point was he was handed great talent and he sucked as a coach and still won a NC, How the **** can't you understand something so Fin simple???????

My exact words, WTF?

''I brought up Coker to show even a bad coach could win with superior talent, I thought you would put 2 and 2 together, my bad!''

''It wasn't talent! It was experienced talent!"

And Coker still won even though he was a bad coach, ****!

''Coming to CIS at times and having to listen to outright uninformed BS like this poster continually puts out does provide me with lots of laughs, but at the same time, I am baffled how in Hades someone like this could get past the sixth grade. ''

Right back atcha!
 
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