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terdferguson said:
The game is on the line. There is nothing between him and the endzone except the punter AND the punter is being blocked. This guy loses that battle and gets tackled. By the freaking punter. Who was being blocked. Our offense couldn't do anything the second half, he absolutely has to score there. He ended up being bailed out on the 4th down play, but man that was real close to being a disastrous play by this guy.
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If you actually look at the play he probably didn't even see the punter as he was basically behind Berrios as he threw his arm out in desperation. With that much momentum Berrios was running with it would have been hard for anyone to keep their balance. In addition FSU still would have had three minutes to come back and score, rather than the 1 minute they had after we did. Honestly we played pretty well, and got a **** PAT blocked. There are a lot of plays you can point at in this game that were complete missed opportunities (including a couple dropped balls by Berrios), but this play was definitely not one of them.
 
Definitely was a big play though. Can't really hate on a guy for making a big play in a big game. But **** he is so mediocre. It's not even his fault that he's back there. The University of Miami should never be lacking explosive talent like we are.
 
terdferguson said:
The game is on the line. There is nothing between him and the endzone except the punter AND the punter is being blocked. This guy loses that battle and gets tackled. By the freaking punter. Who was being blocked. Our offense couldn't do anything the second half, he absolutely has to score there. He ended up being bailed out on the 4th down play, but man that was real close to being a disastrous play by this guy.
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Headline read on this site:

BERRIOS BREAKS CAR WINDOW WHEN RESCUING FAMILY FROM SINKING CAR IN CANAL.
FAMILY UPSET.
 
Anyone who is even remotely complaining about Berrios not scoring must have a **** of a lot more faith in Kaaya being able to produce a TD drive under those circumstances than I do.
 
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Coach Macho said:
Definitely was a big play though. Can't really hate on a guy for making a big play in a big game. But **** he is so mediocre. It's not even his fault that he's back there. The University of Miami should never be lacking explosive talent like we are.
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Berrios came in with such high promise given that Golden preferred Berrios over Isiah McKenzie. Unfortunately for Berrios, Canes fans (including myself) will always compare both of their collegiate careers. Nearly midway through their respective junior years, McKenzie is well ahead of Berrios by a country mile.

The play in question though was huge. We were only down 7, but the momentum and crowd were flat and Berrios gave us that spark. It would've helped had he got by the punter. But we lost due to having the XP blocked. And if you saw the subsequent FSU possession on offense. They got the first couple of first downs that they needed to ice the game.

Fault Berrios for not being a productive and consistent receiver. But faulting him for this one play is nit picking.
 
407cane said:
terdferguson said:
407cane said:
CanesAreAble said:
407cane said:
It actually helped us he didn't score I think

FSU would have had a few minutes to drive down and score.
We scored a touchdown anyways to try and tie. But failed on the pat
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No, it didn't.

If he had scored, maybe that saves some time to get another series of downs on defense (assuming the XP would've still been blocked).
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It's here say man. We don't know

But blaming berrios for not scoring when we scored on that drive is dumb

It's not his fault. We couldn't execute a pat is what did us in
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In the end, Berrios play didn't affect the outcome of the game, but that's not the point. Do you understand statistics and odds? It's really simple. By not defeating the punter and scoring on that play, he drastically reduced our odds of winning the game. Therefore it makes it a bad play and missed opportunity. Period. Our offense had 60 yards in the second half up to that point. We ended up stalling and facing a 4th and long with the game on the line. It worked out, but no rationale human being with a functioning brain can sit here and say they'd rather face 4th and long with low odds of scoring than just have Berrios run by the punter and high step into the endzone.

Berrios play to me is just kind of a microcosm of the team as a whole. Somebody has to step up and make a play to win the game. We keep "almost" beating fsu. But in the end they make the extra play to win and we don't. Back in the day, Derrick Brooks said "we thought we were going to win but Miami knew they were going to win." Now it's the exact opposite.
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Since we're playing that game

How much did berrios punt return help our chances to win rather than let's say if he returned it for the National average?

It was a great play. He got us to the 16 yard line on a great cut

Without him making that play I have no confidence we would have even scored again

You are crazy to knock the play as hurting us and not understand that it was a play that helped us.
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Is there some unwritten rule that says we're only allowed to look at every play of a game as a whole? I'm not allowed to analyze and form an opinion on one specific part of a play? You did a good job earlier in the play so we're just going to ignore the colossal ***** up you did later in the play? Sure it was a nice return, but he needs to beat the punter with the game on the line. I'd bet anything that Berrios himself would tell you that.
 
He scores on that play and the XP probably isn't getting blocked imo.
 
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Berrios needs more reps. Criticism is a little unwarranted. Let's see where he goes from here.
 
Or if the coaching staff had seen that they had seven guys lined up to the left side and we only had four blockers and three TO's...
 
3FW said:
Berrios needs more reps. Criticism is a little unwarranted. Let's see where he goes from here.
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How many more times do you need to see him get caught from behind or fail to make a man miss in the open field?
 
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This is the worst thread on here right now. He is the only reason we were in great position to score. Fault him for drops, but definitely not for this kick return
 
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Berrios made a big play and should be commended for it.

That said, I agree with terd that if you have a two-way go with a blocker engaging the punter, you should score.
 
Ryan Mayes did a bad job blocking the punter. That said Berrios probably should have scored.

His hands have been extremely disappointing.
 
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