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The Franchise said:
MIATL said:
I love the Canes. But articles like this point out how delusional some in our fan base are.

The NFL scouts are telling us how talented this team is, based on the guys they want in their league.

Everybody eligible to return to school should do so. It's the best decision for their draft stock and for the program.
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The NFL guys like McShay and Kiper? Or the actual NFL guys from the Bears who are thinking of making Kaaya a millionaire? Or the NFL guys who loaded up on UM players that guys like you sold short from Folden's 6-7 team?

These guys are only discussing the junior and senior classes. Keep in mind also that there is more talent on a team than that which is currently in the junior and senior classes. In fact, a team like Ohio Taint is on the verge of the playoff with the youngest team in college football.
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Inaccurate representation of my posting history. If anything, I've traditionally given our guys more credit than they deserved.

But to the point of NFL feedback, nothing is 100%. If it were an exact science, Dak Prescott would be playing for the Rams right now.

And Ohio State has multiple kids who will be drafted, for certain, in the first 2 rounds of the NFL draft in 2017. And those kids are backed up by kids who will be drafted.

Miami's issue is that we don't have future NFL players backed up by future NFL players. Teams in contention for the playoffs have that.
 
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The Franchise said:
canecat said:
I just gotta laugh at the talk about Yearby leaving early. He wouldn't be drafted even. He needs to stay and maybe he will have a chance then. And I don't think him leaving would hurt us really as he is the 4th best back IMO on the team now and that doesn't include who we would add with recruiting. Walton is on another level from everyone else but Yearby should use that as motivation to work harder then he has ever worked.
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Only on a UM board are a bunch of guys suggesting an important backup, who likely won't even get drafted, should declare early for the draft.
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His degree is more important at this point.
 
The Franchise said:
canecat said:
I just gotta laugh at the talk about Yearby leaving early. He wouldn't be drafted even. He needs to stay and maybe he will have a chance then. And I don't think him leaving would hurt us really as he is the 4th best back IMO on the team now and that doesn't include who we would add with recruiting. Walton is on another level from everyone else but Yearby should use that as motivation to work harder then he has ever worked.
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Only on a UM board are a bunch of guys suggesting an important backup, who likely won't even get drafted, should declare early for the draft.
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I dont think its unlikely he gets drafted; its pretty close to a sure thing. No team will call his name if he leaves early.

Thing is, does any of that change if he comes back next year?

Brown clearly likes the other backs more. Yearby has a small family to support. At the very least hed make a practice squad, if not a 52.
 
Who will be the next Ryan Leaf who will go on to be awful in the Pros?

I was tempted to say the next Jamarcus Russell, but everybody at the time realized he was an absurd pick so he's not a perfect analogy.
 
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MIATL said:
The Franchise said:
MIATL said:
I love the Canes. But articles like this point out how delusional some in our fan base are.

The NFL scouts are telling us how talented this team is, based on the guys they want in their league.

Everybody eligible to return to school should do so. It's the best decision for their draft stock and for the program.
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The NFL guys like McShay and Kiper? Or the actual NFL guys from the Bears who are thinking of making Kaaya a millionaire? Or the NFL guys who loaded up on UM players that guys like you sold short from Folden's 6-7 team?

These guys are only discussing the junior and senior classes. Keep in mind also that there is more talent on a team than that which is currently in the junior and senior classes. In fact, a team like Ohio Taint is on the verge of the playoff with the youngest team in college football.
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Inaccurate representation of my posting history. If anything, I've traditionally given our guys more credit than they deserved.

But to the point of NFL feedback, nothing is 100%. If it were an exact science, Dak Prescott would be playing for the Rams right now.

And Ohio State has multiple kids who will be drafted, for certain, in the first 2 rounds of the NFL draft in 2017. And those kids are backed up by kids who will be drafted.

Miami's issue is that we don't have future NFL players backed up by future NFL players. Teams in contention for the playoffs have that.
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How do you know we don't have future NFL players on our roster? You tried to use this article to support your idea that fans are overhyping the talent on our team. But the article only deals with junior and senior talent. Now you're ignoring the article to claim that Ohio State is loaded with underclassmen talent not recognized by that article.

We've got enough talent to be better than 7-4 with the **** schedule we played. That's pretty much all anyone who claims we have good talent has said.
 
supersaiyanshel said:
The Franchise said:
canecat said:
I just gotta laugh at the talk about Yearby leaving early. He wouldn't be drafted even. He needs to stay and maybe he will have a chance then. And I don't think him leaving would hurt us really as he is the 4th best back IMO on the team now and that doesn't include who we would add with recruiting. Walton is on another level from everyone else but Yearby should use that as motivation to work harder then he has ever worked.
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Only on a UM board are a bunch of guys suggesting an important backup, who likely won't even get drafted, should declare early for the draft.
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I dont think its unlikely he gets drafted; its pretty close to a sure thing. No team will call his name if he leaves early.

Thing is, does any of that change if he comes back next year?

Brown clearly likes the other backs more. Yearby has a small family to support. At the very least hed make a practice squad, if not a 52.
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How are you so sure "at the very least" Yearby will make a practice squad if he leaves early?

What are the percentages of undrafted free agent RBs who make practice squads compared to those who tried to make it? I'd venture to say it's quite lower than "at the very least," which sounds like virtually certainty.

It's incredibly rare for college football players to declare early for the draft when it's highly likely they won't get drafted. Yearby having kids makes it more important for him to stick around and get a degree.
 
This is OUTRAGEOUS..........Vogel is clearly better than the #9 punter available!!! We're PunterU baby. McGhey and Mehl better show some cot**** respek!
 
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I seriously question the thought process for some Canes fans. This reminds me of a debate a while back when Vernon and Miller's class left after Golden's first year as the topic of debate I believed centered around guys like Marcus Forston whom could've used another year to improve draft stock - Yearby may not be able to do that. Forston subsequently didn't get drafted and was a practice squad guy for a couple of years. The Canes fans who didn't focus on the long term focused on the fact that he was merely collecting NFL checks - even though practice squad checks don't equate to a rather high income to what his potential would've been.

My view - I doubt Yearby gets drafted next year and he's probably a 50/50 shot to be on a practice squad at this juncture. The only other option is to finish out his degree and see where life takes him after his senior year. Not all football players need to go to the NFL just because they have kids.
 
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