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ThomasG954 said:
I agree that Banda is no where near ready to call plays. He jumped on the opportunity given to him through another one of Richt’s bad decisions. Most of us would.

It is also definitely true that the safety’s learn a lot from Rumph. That being said, the players respect Banda A LOT as a leader and teacher and he’s grown as a coach.
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I agree. They definitely all respect him as a man. Hes a good dude. I dont fault him at all for seizing his opportunity. It was richt who simply wanted to stick to the path of least resistance.
 
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wooshdogg said:
I don’t think they would feel anything no one knows how he plays there is no tape on him... I think they will say ok we have a 4 star transfer let’s see what happens... @ the end of the day I know it’s CIS and this is what we do it just seems crazy that our players that stayed are counted out
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Ya, I'm not counting out any of the 3. They all get a fresh start.
 
Suarez said:
I remember an insider here saying that Redwine was so bad that the CB and Safety coached flipped a coin and the loser had to take him....
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Because the kid got better in large part because of the continuity of playing besides jaquan like hes done since they were lil kids doesnt at all change that fact. Not sure what him running a hand timed 4.4 has yo do with any of that. Ac ran a 4.26 on pro day ran a 4.19 one time. Hed tell you himself he runs mid 4.3 will you say the same about Knowles if he runs a 4.4 on pro day? No one can take away the fact the kid has alot of tools. His problem is mental. Hes greatly improved on the physicality side of things. None of this has anything to do with red. Think **** be a decent long time back up in the NFL or a journeyman starter. That's a **** good life to hold on to and will allow him to take care of himself and his family in ways most would never dream. You guys brought in certain players as examples of what a great job banda has done. Is Paul William's one of our best coaches ever too? Maybe give players themselves a lil more credit and stop swearing by coaches yall know nothing about. Especially when it comes to their actual contributions.
 
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wooshdogg said:
the reports all last week were he is not accurate cmon now don’t act like you didn’t see them now this week the reports are he’s looking more comfortable and throwing better. That’s not struggling? .... we roast Williams and Perry for the same thing
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Ex players who played the position at the highest level here and have watched multiple practices say Tate and the others are struggling, but what would they know! Some internet hero thinks otherwise. Manny said recently he plans on playing the guy who makes the least bad mistakes. That’s alarming. We have won 5 NCs and all 5 were led by great QBs who led on and off the field. When several say our guys are struggling I’ll pay attention.Hopefully they can improve dramatically in the next four months.
 
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dsddcane said:
Because the kid got better in large part because of the continuity of playing besides jaquan like hes done since they were lil kids doesnt at all change that fact. Not sure what him running a hand timed 4.4 has yo do with any of that. Ac ran a 4.26 on pro day ran a 4.19 one time. Hed tell you himself he runs mid 4.3 will you say the same about Knowles if he runs a 4.4 on pro day? No one can take away the fact the kid has alot of tools. His problem is mental. Hes greatly improved on the physicality side of things. None of this has anything to do with red. Think **** be a decent long time back up in the NFL or a journeyman starter. That's a **** good life to hold on to and will allow him to take care of himself and his family in ways most would never dream. You guys brought in certain players as examples of what a great job banda has done. Is Paul William's one of our best coaches ever too? Maybe give players themselves a lil more credit and stop swearing by coaches yall know nothing about. Especially when it comes to their actual contributions.
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Huh?
 
Twhizman said:
Love this fan base we haven't won anything for 18 years and we arguing over who's the favorite starter.I don't give a flying .uck anymore who the starters are I want some championships .just win period i d take laurel and hardy,the three stooges,Barney fifth e as the starter if they win.
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Makes no sense. Someone still has to start. Should we all just ignore who it is?
 
wooshdogg said:
I don’t understand how fans think Tate is the savior .... he ran from comp @ O state and he’s struggling here. O state didn’t seemed bothered at all that he left. The media and fans seem to purposely **** on our QBs that were on the rooster from last yr.
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Or maybe he’s a hen peck above the rest of the roosters
 
LoungeLord said:
Makes no sense. Someone still has to start. Should we all just ignore who it is?
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As long as we win who cares who starts.good thing social media wasn't around in 82.kosar and testaverde battled up to the first game before a starter was named.that turned out ok don't why you and a few others here can't just let these kids battle it out without throwing temper tantrum like some liberal encounter group.
 
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Hstokes1447 said:
Banda has done a great job developing players here. Every safety he has had at Miami either is or will be playing in the NFL
Jamal Carter (currently playing for the Broncos )
Rayshawn Jenkins (currently playing for the Chargers)
Jaquan Johnson (developed him into a All American will be drafted)
Sheldrick Redwine (converted CB who will get drafted)
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Carter & Jenkins were a veteran tandem, and you can somewhat say the same about Johnson & Redwine.

This year's Safeties will be the least experienced Safeties that He's had to coach.

I agree with dsdd, Banda's benefited more from the Safeties He's inherited than vice versa.
 
CaneSince4Ever said:
Carter & Jenkins were a veteran tandem, and you can somewhat say the same about Johnson & Redwine.

This year's Safeties will be the least experienced Safeties that He's had to coach.

I agree with dsdd, Banda's benefited more from the Safeties He's inherited than vice versa.
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Carter/Jenkins had playing experience but it was their first years starting when they played for Banda. They were behind...Deon Bush and Dallas Crawford if I remember correctly.

JJ had tons of experience, and Red had a little bit of experience as a CB, but both became full time starters at Safety together under Banda as well.

Either we claim that Paul William's did a decent job recruiting Safeties capable of growing, or we accept that our current Secondary coaches do a good job of developing their players.
 
D RevLee said:
This "he ran from competition" is a played out argument. He's in a competition right now so answer how he ran from it.

Also, the reason why Ohio State didn't seemed bothered that Tate left is 1. Day prefers a pocket passer over a dual threat and 2. Justin Fields will likely be the third best QB in college next year, I think everyone can admit Tate is good but he's not top 3. Same situation here. If Tate/Jarren beat out Kosi are we going to be too concerned about losing him? No.
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Sorry dude, Fields is not a pocket passer, more accurately, he's the best dual threat talent in college. He just happens to have an accurate cannon and can beat you effectively either way. The "he ran from competition" is just as old as " he got swag and went 42-0 in hs." I don't know anyone other than bias folks who will be too concerned about Tate leaving if Perry/JW gets the job. It's a competition and you keep waving your pom poms in favor of 1 cane over another. The more i see your post, i can tell you're young and dumb; especially starting a thread with the agenda to separate the fan base. But like i said, " young and dumb."
 
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dsddcane said:
What makes me think he cant call plays is I know the man. Been there for years and see what has gone on first hand. I also dont find it too impressive that each of the safety's hes had that you mentioned play in the NFL. #1 that's not the standard we have set here. #2 each and every one of them except possibly jaquan never lived up to their potential here. None of them except jaquan were difference makers in college at all. Which their draft spots have shown. For me and anyone I know the fact that they play in the NFL period is a testament to the work they put in as men rather than what they did in college. That's not a knock on them,its just what it is.
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I don't know if Banda can competently coach the position, but this staff had Carter and Jenkins for 1 season. To say they never lived up to their potential here is unfair and incorrect. No safety was going to look good in the D'Nofrio scheme. Jenkins had a terrific senior season. He was healthy and he was a good fit on what Diaz wanted to do. Carter had a very good senior season. Redwine developed into a very good safety and had terrific senior season as well.
 
Pentagon Cane said:
I don't know if Banda can competently coach the position, but this staff had Carter and Jenkins for 1 season. To say they never lived up to their potential here is unfair and incorrect. No safety was going to look good in the D'Nofrio scheme. Jenkins had a terrific senior season. He was healthy and he was a good fit on what Diaz wanted to do. Carter had a very good senior season. Redwine developed into a very good safety and had terrific senior season as well.
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Agree, Banda doesn’t know as much about the game of football that rumph does considering his pedigree (on the best team ever, first round pick, head coach) but he has done a good job with his position group and deserves some credit for his performance with the safeties imo. Safety play has certainly not been a liability since he’s been coaching them and they have played well beyond anything we have had back at safety since probably Phillips and merriweather.
 
Tad Footeball said:
The people so attached to the Tathan "ran from competition" narrative would be the first to justify Jarren or N'Kushi leaving by claiming it wasn't an actual fair competition or a competition at all here too.

As you and others have clearly explained, that job in Columbus was handed to Fields by Day. There was going to be no legitimate competition as we are having here and one that Tathan ran TO.

We all just need to "trust the process" by Enos and Manny here and accept their choice. I've been a fairly big detractor of N'Kushi over the last year but if he is named starter then I'll be freakin excited that the kid is obviously balling out (not just on Snapchat) and has matured. Same thing with Tathan and Jarren being named starter as it'll show that our optimism based on their apparent potential was justified.
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the he ran from competition is really off here. he paid his dues and was next in line and they brought in a 5 * transfer, not a recruit. how would you feel if your company did that to you after you paid your dues. an older employee leaves and you are ready to move into his position and they hire someone else at exactly your level of experience. most of you would change jobs. it is his life and career. he needs to do what is best, not adhere to what some fans notions of being willing to compete are. as to the point people keep making that people are willing to bail on perry, he did this to himself. I DO NOT TRUST HIM and that is the bottom line. he has a lot of growing up to do before he can be the leader of this team.
 
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404CANES said:
Sorry dude, Fields is not a pocket passer, more accurately, he's the best dual threat talent in college. He just happens to have an accurate cannon and can beat you effectively either way. The "he ran from competition" is just as old as " he got swag and went 42-0 in hs." I don't know anyone other bias folks who will be too concerned about Tate leaving if Perry/JW gets the job. It's a competition an you keep waving your pom poms in favor of 1 cane over another. The more i see your post, i can tell you're young and dumb; especially starting a thread with the agenda to separate the fan base. But like i said, " young and dumb."
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Show me where I said Fields is a pocket passer, I'll wait. I said Day PREFERS a pocket passer, IMPLYING that Fields has a better arm than Tate. Do u really think no one knows what Justin Fields is? Since u know so much about me u should know I'm on record stating Fields will most likely be the 3rd best QB in the nation next year.

Again, show me where I said "he has swag and went 42-0 in high school" as an arguement for Tate. Even if I was to say something like that I would make sure I got his stats correct and give him credit for the 45* wins, not 42.

I don't know if I would call it "bias" bc that would be saying that I'm being unfair to the other QBs, which I'm not. What u call "waiving pom poms" I call that having the courage of my convictions. I believe Tate will win the job and I don't care what the people like u think about it.

Before I go let me say that next time u mention me, come prepared. This was a clear swing and miss attempt by u. I give u props for trying though.
 
i don't care who wins honestly. would be nice to see tate win simply because the dude received so much hate nationwide for leaving ohio state. coming here, winning the job and succeeding would be a great story.


ultimately perry and williams look to have improved and tate will only push them to be better. way happier about our qb position this year
 
407cane said:
i don't care who wins honestly. would be nice to see tate win simply because the dude received so much hate nationwide for leaving ohio state. coming here, winning the job and succeeding would be a great story.


ultimately perry and williams look to have improved and tate will only push them to be better. way happier about our qb position this year
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True. At the end of the day at least we have three guys that are competing at a high level. That just makes us a better team.
 
Pentagon Cane said:
I don't know if Banda can competently coach the position, but this staff had Carter and Jenkins for 1 season. To say they never lived up to their potential here is unfair and incorrect. No safety was going to look good in the D'Nofrio scheme. Jenkins had a terrific senior season. He was healthy and he was a good fit on what Diaz wanted to do. Carter had a very good senior season. Redwine developed into a very good safety and had terrific senior season as well.
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Its irrelevant how long the staff had them. I'm not the one who used them as examples. For me it's simply about results and the position they were put in for their time here and future. I agree they had good seasons as seniors and I also think it was more the result of the scheme rather than anything banda did. I also agree about no d. But good is not our standard and it's not worth bragging about. I'm just tired of everyone on here preaching about stuff they know next to nothing about and then the first to string up the only competent coach we have in the secondary. It's just dumb.
 
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