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Back up QB

Memnon said:
It's called being diligent.

In the event your starter goes down, it's nice to have a plan in place that doesn't result in simply having to tank the season because you have a QB room with no capable starters other than the starter.

It's an insurance policy.
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whispers: OSU won a title with their third string QB
 
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Memnon said:
It's called being diligent.

In the event your starter goes down, it's nice to have a plan in place that doesn't result in simply having to tank the season because you have a QB room with no capable starters other than the starter.

It's an insurance policy.
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And I just disagree that most backups are going to result in not "tanking the season" essentially.
If Beck went down say 3/4 way through the season, I'd just say put in Nickel, let him take his lumps, and he's got a big head start on next season. Like realistically in Conference play how many games should a backup be expected to win unless they are pretty costly? It's easier to have a high priced insurance policy if you aren't already spending BIG on the starter - but we are. I imagine FAR more than USC is paying their starting QB and Ole Miss is paying theirs currently...

How many backups are you going to feel confident in getting us to and through the playoffs? Likely none. So it's like why even spend the money on that scenario. I'm not saying I don't want backups with potential. That's why I'm saying we need to get 2 HS Qbs yearly. And they need to be more Nickel/Coleman types than Emory types. I don't particularly mind the Judd take as the 2nd QB. Emory is just probably too physically ungifted for that to be a good take. But I don't have a problem with getting a more limited physically but smart guy either.

Like if we had Beck, Nickel, Coleman, and Judd entering this year I think even entertaining adding a backup QB would be dumb... I get ideally we swap Emory for a better guy, but ultimately to me Nickel is the backup if we need a Qb more than just 1 game, period.
 
hoops156 said:
not last year. im talking bout the one they won with urban
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Bro Zeke ran for 230 against Bama and then 246 yards against Oregon in the 2 playoff games lol. He had 56 Carries for 476 yards in those 2 games himself lol. Cardale threw 2 TDs 2 INTs and ran the ball 38 times in those 2 games lol. And they had Michael Thomas, Curtis Samuel, and Devin Smith was good that year. He was fine lol. Did he do more than Emory could? Yes. But primarily they ran the **** out of the ball to 8.5 ypc with Zeke, then He ran the ball, and then had some easy passes.

Now I will say having a guy who is a legit run threat as a backup is very nice for just that reason. You don't expect your backup to be great throwing the ball, especially if inexperienced. But if they can run, it really helps you out, and makes it easier to win that game or two you need them.

Also, Pre-NIL Roster construction is pretty irrelevant to how it's setup today.
 
Calinative said:
Bro Zeke ran for 230 against Bama and then 246 yards against Oregon in the 2 playoff games lol. He had 56 Carries for 476 yards in those 2 games himself lol. Cardale threw 2 TDs 2 INTs and ran the ball 38 times in those 2 games lol. And they had Michael Thomas, Curtis Samuel, and Devin Smith was good that year. He was fine lol. Did he do more than Emory could? Yes. But primarily they ran the **** out of the ball to 8.5 ypc with Zeke, then He ran the ball, and then had some easy passes.

Now I will say having a guy who is a legit run threat as a backup is very nice for just that reason. You don't expect your backup to be great throwing the ball, especially if inexperienced. But if they can run, it really helps you out, and makes it easier to win that game or two you need them.

Also, Pre-NIL Roster construction is pretty irrelevant to how it's setup today.
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A Mario title would probably involve that kind of running game.
 
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As I’ve mentioned before, Erickson broke his finger in 1989 and missed like 4 games. Torretta had never started a game and didn’t have much game experience. We won the NC that year and it wasn’t from just running.
You are always a play away from your backup and it would suck if you’re clicking on all cylinders but one.
 
RF-4CCane said:
As I’ve mentioned before, Erickson broke his finger in 1989 and missed like 4 games. Torretta had never started a game and didn’t have much game experience. We won the NC that year and it wasn’t from just running.
You are always a play away from your backup and it would suck if you’re clicking on all cylinders but one.
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I mean I'm joking....but.....
 
RF-4CCane said:
As I’ve mentioned before, Erickson broke his finger in 1989 and missed like 4 games. Torretta had never started a game and didn’t have much game experience. We won the NC that year and it wasn’t from just running.
You are always a play away from your backup and it would suck if you’re clicking on all cylinders but one.
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Yea but we lost to FSU that year because Gino wasn't ready. Well that and McGuire fumbling at the goal line and then giving up a 99 yard TD drive. Frustrating game. How do I remember this stuff?
 
TouchMoney26 said:
Dont understand how we are going to recruit a QB to come be a back up for life---- I guess money? is there a solid good QB that will come in and understand he will forever be a backup?

this year we have to think how things play out --- luke is my choice for backup and I think a lot of others as well. think in the NIL era might have to rely on freshman qb's to be backups at this point

any other year I would be thrilled to have Luke be the guy after Beck but will he stay around and compete with Coleman? or will he bounce after Spring

Love Luke but Coleman is HIM --- bookmark this.. he is HIMMM day 1 HIM

just like baby jesus
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Well Luke will taking over next year and "HIM" will have to wait his turn.
 
TouchMoney26 said:
Dont understand how we are going to recruit a QB to come be a back up for life---- I guess money? is there a solid good QB that will come in and understand he will forever be a backup?

this year we have to think how things play out --- luke is my choice for backup and I think a lot of others as well. think in the NIL era might have to rely on freshman qb's to be backups at this point

any other year I would be thrilled to have Luke be the guy after Beck but will he stay around and compete with Coleman? or will he bounce after Spring

Love Luke but Coleman is HIM --- bookmark this.. he is HIMMM day 1 HIM

just like baby jesus
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You take a guy like Judd who have traits but aren't going to cost alot/if any NIL that need major development. Keep them for 3/4 years until they graduate and try to play somewhere their last year of eligability.
 
Memnon said:
It's called being diligent.

In the event your starter goes down, it's nice to have a plan in place that doesn't result in simply having to tank the season because you have a QB room with no capable starters other than the starter.

It's an insurance policy.
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It's also the difference between a championship level team and one that peters out with a few key injuries.
 
I agree Gino wasn’t ready for prime time yet, but if Beck went down for 4 games this year, would you rather have a not quite ready Gino type or Emory to fill in?
My real point is, a decent back up is important if we’re trying to get into the playoffs.
 
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TouchMoney26 said:
Dont understand how we are going to recruit a QB to come be a back up for life---- I guess money? is there a solid good QB that will come in and understand he will forever be a backup?

this year we have to think how things play out --- luke is my choice for backup and I think a lot of others as well. think in the NIL era might have to rely on freshman qb's to be backups at this point

any other year I would be thrilled to have Luke be the guy after Beck but will he stay around and compete with Coleman? or will he bounce after Spring

Love Luke but Coleman is HIM --- bookmark this.. he is HIMMM day 1 HIM

just like baby jesus
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won't Coleman be a freshman next year behind Luke? Why wouldn't Coleman accept that role as a freshman unless he clearly is the starter? As things are going I would expect Luke to be starting next year after a year in the offense and then a healthy competition the following year between him and Coleman.

I think backups no matter how talented are better served biding their time to get accustomed to college life, learn the playbook, and get some game time experience along the way. They are always an injury away from starting anyways.
 
Salt said:
won't Coleman be a freshman next year behind Luke? Why wouldn't Coleman accept that role as a freshman unless he clearly is the starter? As things are going I would expect Luke to be starting next year after a year in the offense and then a healthy competition the following year between him and Coleman.

I think backups no matter how talented are better served biding their time to get accustomed to college life, learn the playbook, and get some game time experience along the way. They are always an injury away from starting anyways.
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I mean I think it's entirely likely we go with another 1yr Portal QB to start next year, and then let Nickel and Coleman have a true competition when they have 2yrs and 1yr under their belt to see who is going to be a 2 year starter here...
 
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