Avantee Williams arrested

[Empirical Cane]

And very surprised article didn’t say former Miami Hurricane

C'mon now meng!!!!

Avantae Williams, charged in McCabe's Bar shooting, was former college football star

Williams, ex-star safety for DeLand High and recruited to a number of top schools, was charged in a fatal shooting at McCabe's Bar.

www.news-journalonline.com

 

[Atom Atlas]

 

[rsa coral gables]

I candidly do not think it does but I am only speaking from a personal experience. Buddy of mine kicked in a door to a drug dealer that owed him money. Dude was in there with his pregnant GF, both had guns, shots go off, the GF tried to run from the bathroom to the bedroom and her own boyfriend shot her, she unfortunately died.

The drug dealer was a felon, gun was his, he went to jail for about 4 years on a plea deal for felon with a gun, felon with ammunition and the drugs in the apartment.

My friend and the 2 guys he were with obviously went down for armed robbery and felony murder for the GF and the unborn baby, all caught multiple life sentences. I think the drug dealer got a bit of a lessor plea deal because of the circumstances but he did not go down for manslaughter or murder because he was obviously trying to defend himself.

radically different set of facts, meng.

 

[UMFarArcher]

Maybe it was an accident

Any proficient shooter can dump seven rounds of .45ACP with a 1911 on a 15 yard target in 1.5 seconds.

If you're a dumba**, and it takes you two full seconds to really make a good decision - you're screwed.

Bringing a gun to a bar - you're already a verified dumba**, and that's no accident. Verified dumba**es - prisons are full of them.

 

[hoops156]

radically different set of facts, meng.

also he needs new buddies

 

[hoops156]

Any proficient shooter can dump seven rounds of .45ACP with a 1911 on a 15 yard target in 1.5 seconds.

If you're a dumba**, and it takes you two full seconds to really make a good decision - you're screwed.

Bringing a gun to a bar - you're already a verified dumba**, and that's no accident. Verified dumba**es - prisons are full of them.

he got off 6 shots. one is an accident. 6 is intent

 

[Cookie917]

radically different set of facts, meng.

Obviously but if anything it goes to highlight the post I was responding to in a more exaggerated way "if illegally having a gun and using it means you are not able to assert self defense"

In my example and in Florida it is no, you can be a convicted felon and still pull the trigger and be entitled to self defense over a manslaughter charge. the other comment said in GA a convicted felon cannot use his own gun. If there was ever a time to argue "murder" over "self defense" about illegally owning a gun I would think it would be a convicted 2x felon drug dealer using it while drugs are on his table but he was allowed to claim self defense and still go down for the other crimes.

 

[UMFarArcher]

he got off 6 shots. one is an accident. 6 is intent

Carrying into a bar - THAT's intent.

 

[Schnelly'sPipe]

Carrying into a bar - THAT's intent.

 

[Ironmanfootball]

he got off 6 shots. one is an accident. 6 is intent

 

[Brains]

I have to believe 2nd degree still carries a life sentence.
It could be argued that this was more like manslaughter, a heat of passion killing, which would carry a lesser sentence.

2nd degree can get life in Florida, and fequently does just that.

 

[canes461]

TrumpyCane thinks the neck tattoo told you if he makes good decisions in his life or not

Fairly good predictor...

 

[Brains]

TrumpyCane thinks the neck tattoo told you if he makes good decisions in his life or not

Neck tattoos are often strong indicators of an absence of impulse control, an inability to delay gratification, and negligible long-term planning capabilities.

 

[Ironmanfootball]

Neck tattoos are often strong indicators of an absence of impulse control, an inability to delay gratification, and negligible long-term planning capabilities.

So you're saying he took just the one marshmallow right away?

 

[Salt]

Did he land anywhere after portal-ing out of Maryland in 2023?

 

[JD08]

Here's an article from 2007 where a guy was prosecuted for firing 14 shots at 3 guys who were trying to run him over. The DA, Barry Krischer, tried to argue that the first 5 shots were self defense, but the next 9 constituted first degree murder.

Man Acquitted Under Florida's Castle Doctrine

From yesterday's Palm Beach Post: By LARRY KELLER Palm Beach Post Staff Writer Wednesday, June 27, 2007 State Attorney Barry Krischer doesn't like the Castle Doctrine self-defense law used to acquit Norman Borden of murder on Monday, but he says he has no misgivings about prosecuting the...

www.1911forum.com

 

[Brains]

So you're saying he took just the one marshmallow right away?

Then broke the glass and burned the house down.

 

[BS85]

Any proficient shooter can dump seven rounds of .45ACP with a 1911 on a 15 yard target in 1.5 seconds.

If you're a dumba**, and it takes you two full seconds to really make a good decision - you're screwed.

Bringing a gun to a bar - you're already a verified dumba**, and that's no accident. Verified dumba**es - prisons are full of them.

I was joking, it just apparently wasn’t very funny but i agree with what you said for sure

 

[Ohio_Cane]

There it is

 

[Golsen82]

Maryland can claim him