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Avantee Williams arrested

Rickd said:
It is against the law for ANYONE .... even those with concealed carry licenses .... to carry a gun into a bar that serves alcohol. One of the first topics covered in concealed carry courses. Leave it locked in your car.
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NC finally got rid of that BS a few years ago - for those not partaking.
 
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canes461 said:
Wrong.








Everything is a conspiracy these days...
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UMFarArcher said:
That argument that one can't just BELIEVE his life is in danger - but one must assume what a NORMAL/AVERAGE person would believe - is BS.

There's a very obvious flaw in that logic.

Some men are not average in either skills or experiences. There are men who served the US in the military in war - and they were conditioned to eliminate their enemies - to protect not only themselves - but their brothers in arms.

Once combat is initiated - and the shooting starts - an experienced combat soldier will kill everything in sight as this is required - and is NORMAL.

Unlike a guy who works in a dry cleaners and was faced with the same threat - mistakenly THINKING he would only shoot them in the leg to end the attack, as most candya**es might think.

That case says he put five through the windshield, and the remaining rounds through the driver's side window.

That's called, a "flanking" movement and the ideal application of a crossfire shifting to defilade fire. This flanking movement is one of the oldest, most effective tactics ever used since who-flung-the-chunk thousands of years ago.

NORMAL to everyone - in combat.

Then, there's the combat mindset developed over time - in combat - especially when attacked. You must remain calm and work the problem - until the threat no longer exists.

Flanking is often just instinctive - as you avoid their frontal threat, and hit them from the side - where they're more vulnerable to your attack - than you are to their attack.

So I'd suggest the standard of what's "reasonable," or "rational" to be measured by what is "normal," is a very vague non-definite standard.

What's normal for me - won't be normal for a candya** who's never taken scalps. But I won't be following up on the street with a follow on head shot in each one as I'd normally do after a firefight.

The so-called "law" is FOS in matters of defense, justification, and reality.
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If it wasn’t for vague language, they wouldn’t be able to use the law in corrupt ways.

You can interpret things any way you want to based on who the victim is and who the accused is. The last thing the corrupt want is an objective standard that everyone gets held to.
 
All of these lawyers on here i wonder what yall think i know of a case that happened last year in broward at a bar...with guys jumping a guy and him using a weapon deleting one of them i wonder if castle or stand your ground would apply.

Its easy to look up the video from channel 7 or 10 likely is still up from the shooting in fort lauderdale.
 
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