Article: Video: OL commit Dykstra shows off athleticism

[MedleyCane]

Does all that..and was getting blown by at paradise camp. You got to be blessed to play ball I could care less bout this crossfire sh-t.

Got one better.
When I was playing ball at HML back in the late 1970s, we played against Carol City HS and one of their stud lineman was William Roberts,
who was playing both ways for the Chiefs.
My teammates beat the living daylights out of him on both sides of the ball.
Roberts eventually decided to leave the area for Ohio State which resulted in many of my HS teammates
laughing at him and OSU, opining often that he would have been a waste of scholie at UM (which had
recruited him hard).
My teammates never made it past their senior year of college football whereas Roberts played many years
in the NFL, under Parcells no less as his LT.
Similarly, many years later, my brother had his way against Bruce Armstrong, who was playing TE for
Central at the time.
Armstrong couldn't block a blade of grass, yet he managed to do well in college and NFL.
My point is that many OLmen are late-developers, one can't just judge them based on some appearance at
a summer camp where everyone is running around in shorts.

 

[orange&green84]

Does all that..and was getting blown by at paradise camp. You got to be blessed to play ball I could care less bout this crossfire sh-t.

Got one better.
When I was playing ball at HML back in the late 1970s, we played against Carol City HS and one of their stud lineman was William Roberts,
who was playing both ways for the Chiefs.
My teammates beat the living daylights out of him on both sides of the ball.
Roberts eventually decided to leave the area for Ohio State which resulted in many of my HS teammates
laughing at him and OSU, opining often that he would have been a waste of scholie at UM (which had
recruited him hard).
My teammates never made it past their senior year of college football whereas Roberts played many years
in the NFL, under Parcells no less as his LT.
Similarly, many years later, my brother had his way against Bruce Armstrong, who was playing TE for
Central at the time.
Armstrong couldn't block a blade of grass, yet he managed to do well in college and NFL.
My point is that many OLmen are late-developers, one can't just judge them based on some appearance at
a summer camp where everyone is running around in shorts.

Bingo. And like I said, those drills that we see at these camps always favor the defensive linemen.

 

[BALLHAWKU]

I can see him being a solid guard but cross fit is for es o . Wonder if he could play center too ?

 

[PSU Cane]

Does all that..and was getting blown by at paradise camp. You got to be blessed to play ball I could care less bout this crossfire sh-t.

Got one better.
When I was playing ball at HML back in the late 1970s, we played against Carol City HS and one of their stud lineman was William Roberts,
who was playing both ways for the Chiefs.
My teammates beat the living daylights out of him on both sides of the ball.
Roberts eventually decided to leave the area for Ohio State which resulted in many of my HS teammates
laughing at him and OSU, opining often that he would have been a waste of scholie at UM (which had
recruited him hard).
My teammates never made it past their senior year of college football whereas Roberts played many years
in the NFL, under Parcells no less as his LT.
Similarly, many years later, my brother had his way against Bruce Armstrong, who was playing TE for
Central at the time.
Armstrong couldn't block a blade of grass, yet he managed to do well in college and NFL.
My point is that many OLmen are late-developers, one can't just judge them based on some appearance at
a summer camp where everyone is running around in shorts.

Exactly. Many O-linemen receive terrible coaching in HS and get by on size and/or strength alone. Technique can usually be taught but feet/hips/bend/attitude are natural. That being said, a less than athletic guy can still be a stud with great technique, strength and a nasty disposition. That's why Oline recruiting and drafting is such a crapshoot at times and why so many NFL starters are low round or undrafted players.

Also, every position requires different strengths, some of which depend on scheme (man vs zone). Here is what i look for.....
Tackle - Nice bend, good feet, ability to drop step while keeping a strong inside hand leverage, stays square and doesn't cross his feet, doesn't reach or lunge (bad habits)
Guard - Strong base, heavy punch, ability to combo block and nice hips/feet to slip to the 2nd level or make reach blocks in "zone", phone booth fighters with strong hands and big @sses to move people in "man"
Center - Quick, good anchor, SMART.....a technician.

 

[DMoney]

He has the right frame. Good length, wide shoulders, lean and seems to have strong hands.

Glad he's getting here early. I know he had some trouble with speed at Paradise Camp but I want to see what he does in pads. Gauthier really gave our OL a boost when he entered the lineup and I'm hoping Dykstra is a bigger version of that kind of player.

 

[The Franchise]

There are different levels of athleticism. There is speed and there is balance.

This dude probably isn't all that fast, but neither is Slaton or Herbert or any of the OL on our roster. But he's got tremendous balance and core strength which can go a long way in helping him at that position. He's also strong as an ox, which helps. Gonna be interesting to see what we can get out of him.

I generally don't buy into hype with OL unless they combine that hype with grit and nastiness. That OL we just grabbed from CoralSprings is slow with no hype, but he's a villain on the field. I like that dude.

 

[BALLHAWKU]

He has the right frame. Good length, wide shoulders, lean and seems to have strong hands.

Glad he's getting here early. I know he had some trouble with speed at Paradise Camp but I want to see what he does in pads. Gauthier really gave our OL a boost when he entered the lineup and I'm hoping Dykstra is a bigger version of that kind of player.

I'm patient and understand every body can't be immediate contributors . With that hand strength he might be a top notch blocker or dt . We have options

 

[Cribby]

He has the right frame. Good length, wide shoulders, lean and seems to have strong hands.

Glad he's getting here early. I know he had some trouble with speed at Paradise Camp but I want to see what he does in pads. Gauthier really gave our OL a boost when he entered the lineup and I'm hoping Dykstra is a bigger version of that kind of player.

I'm not too hard on ol at camps , you're blocking guys with no threat of the run. You're playing with one hand behind your back while the dl has ears pinned back

 

[Cribby]

There are different levels of athleticism. There is speed and there is balance.

This dude probably isn't all that fast, but neither is Slaton or Herbert or any of the OL on our roster. But he's got tremendous balance and core strength which can go a long way in helping him at that position. He's also strong as an ox, which helps. Gonna be interesting to see what we can get out of him.

I generally don't buy into hype with OL unless they combine that hype with grit and nastiness. That OL we just grabbed from CoralSprings is slow with no hype, but he's a villain on the field. I like that dude.

Gaynor is nasty and old school. I think we got a steal with him.

 

[grover]

I have complete respect for your judgment, Gogeta. But I have to agree with Medley on this one. I LOL'd at Odogwu's blocking his first two years on the team. It was horrific. But he finally took enough snaps to learn to control that body of his, and now he looks like he can be something special (if he can come back strong from his injury). Dykstra has the athleticism to develop well, and a great mauler attitude. Which is why I was fine with guys like Feliciano, Gadbois (though that didn't turn out so well, lol) and more recently Gauthier.

Didn't Leatherwood get beat a bunch of times at Paradise, too?

 

[jjacks93]

Side view is way more impressive though. His rock hard crank keeps his body 10 inches off the back wall.

Thats a teenager youre talking about...sick mf

If he was in his 20's you would approve?

if he's in his 20s then you just sound like a homosexual and not a pedophile . But I guess its cool to talk about a kids genitals. Yal some weird mfs man.

 

[blackvern]

I agree its all about balance with OL more then speed...However, im in the belief this show of athleticsm doesnt a mean a got dam thing on the football field..Some things just dont correlate and none of you fake *** coaches know if this translates either... Whats next your gonna tell me playing dodge ball works on agility and team unity?

 

[Classic]

I agree its all about balance with OL more then speed...However, im in the belief this show of athleticsm doesnt a mean a got dam thing on the football field..Some things just dont correlate and none of you fake *** coaches know if this translates either... Whats next your gonna tell me playing dodge ball works on agility and team unity?

if you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge an L.

 

[Rellyrell]

Does this mean he can block?

Ding, ding ding !! You beat me to it. That's the 64K question.
Show me some videos of him blocking some speedy d linemen coming off the edge and I'll really be impressed.

Exactly I don't care about his cross fit Ability.

Very short sighted post. A lot of the offensive lineman that are worth a **** come out of the Midwest. You heard Chise say it, it's a culture to workout over there. You need your linemen strong more than anything. For linemen, your power comes through your legs which is why you see such a large emphasis on squats and power cleans . Also, they're not tested regularly against speed that exists in South Florida; it's something you have to adapt to. I remember our offensive linemen with Swasey just being big and fat - those weight room numbers that were posted was troubling.

Spot on.
One could argue how effective those exercises are towards becoming a stud college OLman, but this would be missing
the point, the bigger picture, which is this kid is putting in a considerable amount of work to be the best he
can be, which is a huge factor in being an excellent OLman.
And this sort of thing is contagious....you want kids on team who spend more time in the gym and classroom then
in their dorm or car smoking marijuana.

I swear some of you mofos and your orange and green shades kill me. Lookahere, I can care less about an Oline man doing a cartwheel or backflip or any other Olympic style form you wanna throw out. All I care about is can that **** block. He can bench press 500 and squat 600 20x, and throw a javelin 100 yards...who gives a F! Can he block?

Where's the tapes of him blocking, b/c all I see right now is a vivid memory of this dude getting raped like a jailhouse ***** at Paradise camp. I saw very little hip fluidity or leverage...which is y I liked an unknown prospect in Hillery, b/c even though he got beat a couple times DUE TO HIM BEING NEW TO THE POSITION, he got angry, listened to coaching, and made more blocks than not; that's all I'm saying. Don't care if he's from the Midwest, So Fla, No Fla, or Cali...can he block at a collegiate level? If the answer is yes, send all the back flipping, cart wheeling videos you want.

 

[orange&green84]

Ding, ding ding !! You beat me to it. That's the 64K question.
Show me some videos of him blocking some speedy d linemen coming off the edge and I'll really be impressed.

Exactly I don't care about his cross fit Ability.

Very short sighted post. A lot of the offensive lineman that are worth a **** come out of the Midwest. You heard Chise say it, it's a culture to workout over there. You need your linemen strong more than anything. For linemen, your power comes through your legs which is why you see such a large emphasis on squats and power cleans . Also, they're not tested regularly against speed that exists in South Florida; it's something you have to adapt to. I remember our offensive linemen with Swasey just being big and fat - those weight room numbers that were posted was troubling.

Spot on.
One could argue how effective those exercises are towards becoming a stud college OLman, but this would be missing
the point, the bigger picture, which is this kid is putting in a considerable amount of work to be the best he
can be, which is a huge factor in being an excellent OLman.
And this sort of thing is contagious....you want kids on team who spend more time in the gym and classroom then
in their dorm or car smoking marijuana.

I swear some of you mofos and your orange and green shades kill me. Lookahere, I can care less about an Oline man doing a cartwheel or backflip or any other Olympic style form you wanna throw out. All I care about is can that **** block. He can bench press 500 and squat 600 20x, and throw a javelin 100 yards...who gives a F! Can he block?

Where's the tapes of him blocking, b/c all I see right now is a vivid memory of this dude getting raped like a jailhouse ***** at Paradise camp. I saw very little hip fluidity or leverage...which is y I liked an unknown prospect in Hillery, b/c even though he got beat a couple times DUE TO HIM BEING NEW TO THE POSITION, he got angry, listened to coaching, and made more blocks than not; that's all I'm saying. Don't care if he's from the Midwest, So Fla, No Fla, or Cali...can he block at a collegiate level? If the answer is yes, send all the back flipping, cart wheeling videos you want.

An example of posters that claim to not care about a player's athleticism. Then bashes a receiver for not being fast regardless of if he makes plays on the football field or not.

 

[stb]

Defensive coordinator Manny Diaz also believes Miami is two recruiting classes away—2017 and 2018—from the team being at the level they would like.

“It’s probably two realistically,” Diaz said. “When you’re still not able to redshirt and get those guys in your weight room you’ve just got to think when you talk about freshmen and sophomores it’s not just the experience they lack, they’re playing against older players. How many more times has that older player been on the squat rack since they’ve been in college? How many more times have they been through a walk-through? How many more times have they been through an offseason program?

 

[Rellyrell]

Exactly I don't care about his cross fit Ability.

Very short sighted post. A lot of the offensive lineman that are worth a **** come out of the Midwest. You heard Chise say it, it's a culture to workout over there. You need your linemen strong more than anything. For linemen, your power comes through your legs which is why you see such a large emphasis on squats and power cleans . Also, they're not tested regularly against speed that exists in South Florida; it's something you have to adapt to. I remember our offensive linemen with Swasey just being big and fat - those weight room numbers that were posted was troubling.

Spot on.
One could argue how effective those exercises are towards becoming a stud college OLman, but this would be missing
the point, the bigger picture, which is this kid is putting in a considerable amount of work to be the best he
can be, which is a huge factor in being an excellent OLman.
And this sort of thing is contagious....you want kids on team who spend more time in the gym and classroom then
in their dorm or car smoking marijuana.

I swear some of you mofos and your orange and green shades kill me. Lookahere, I can care less about an Oline man doing a cartwheel or backflip or any other Olympic style form you wanna throw out. All I care about is can that **** block. He can bench press 500 and squat 600 20x, and throw a javelin 100 yards...who gives a F! Can he block?

Where's the tapes of him blocking, b/c all I see right now is a vivid memory of this dude getting raped like a jailhouse ***** at Paradise camp. I saw very little hip fluidity or leverage...which is y I liked an unknown prospect in Hillery, b/c even though he got beat a couple times DUE TO HIM BEING NEW TO THE POSITION, he got angry, listened to coaching, and made more blocks than not; that's all I'm saying. Don't care if he's from the Midwest, So Fla, No Fla, or Cali...can he block at a collegiate level? If the answer is yes, send all the back flipping, cart wheeling videos you want.

An example of posters that claim to not care about a player's athleticism. Then bashes a receiver for not being fast regardless of if he makes plays on the football field or not.

Apples and Oranges. Skill position compared to trenches. Remind of the last OL who ran an out pattern or streak? Of course you want your OL to be athletic, but doing a cart wheel does not mean you have good feet, hand placement, and the ability to engage at the point of attack (see Bar Milo) Again, slow me videos of this guy pancaking and handling speed rushers.

 

[ThomasM]

Very short sighted post. A lot of the offensive lineman that are worth a **** come out of the Midwest. You heard Chise say it, it's a culture to workout over there. You need your linemen strong more than anything. For linemen, your power comes through your legs which is why you see such a large emphasis on squats and power cleans . Also, they're not tested regularly against speed that exists in South Florida; it's something you have to adapt to. I remember our offensive linemen with Swasey just being big and fat - those weight room numbers that were posted was troubling.

Spot on.
One could argue how effective those exercises are towards becoming a stud college OLman, but this would be missing
the point, the bigger picture, which is this kid is putting in a considerable amount of work to be the best he
can be, which is a huge factor in being an excellent OLman.
And this sort of thing is contagious....you want kids on team who spend more time in the gym and classroom then
in their dorm or car smoking marijuana.

I swear some of you mofos and your orange and green shades kill me. Lookahere, I can care less about an Oline man doing a cartwheel or backflip or any other Olympic style form you wanna throw out. All I care about is can that **** block. He can bench press 500 and squat 600 20x, and throw a javelin 100 yards...who gives a F! Can he block?

Where's the tapes of him blocking, b/c all I see right now is a vivid memory of this dude getting raped like a jailhouse ***** at Paradise camp. I saw very little hip fluidity or leverage...which is y I liked an unknown prospect in Hillery, b/c even though he got beat a couple times DUE TO HIM BEING NEW TO THE POSITION, he got angry, listened to coaching, and made more blocks than not; that's all I'm saying. Don't care if he's from the Midwest, So Fla, No Fla, or Cali...can he block at a collegiate level? If the answer is yes, send all the back flipping, cart wheeling videos you want.

An example of posters that claim to not care about a player's athleticism. Then bashes a receiver for not being fast regardless of if he makes plays on the football field or not.

Apples and Oranges. Skill position compared to trenches. Remind of the last OL who ran an out pattern or streak? Of course you want your OL to be athletic, but doing a cart wheel does not mean you have good feet, hand placement, and the ability to engage at the point of attack (see Bar Milo) Again, slow me videos of this guy pancaking and handling speed rushers.

Name me the last WR to run a perfect route, quickly, then score a TD by dropping a pass. I'll wait....

 

[blackvern]

RellyRell keeping it really real...agree with everything he is saying in this thread

 

[umhurricane2511]

There are different levels of athleticism. There is speed and there is balance.

This dude probably isn't all that fast, but neither is Slaton or Herbert or any of the OL on our roster. But he's got tremendous balance and core strength which can go a long way in helping him at that position. He's also strong as an ox, which helps. Gonna be interesting to see what we can get out of him.

I generally don't buy into hype with OL unless they combine that hype with grit and nastiness. That OL we just grabbed from CoralSprings is slow with no hype, but he's a villain on the field. I like that dude.

Gaynor is nasty and old school. I think we got a steal with him.

He very well may suck ***, but he won't be a ******* *****