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TheRagingWolf said:
ball915 said:
TheRagingWolf said:
ball915 said:
Just wait until Bud Foster pays him a friendly visit next Thursday
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In 2011 we gained 519 total yards, including a whopping 236 yards against the vaunted Bud Foster defense.
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and in what coaching way non recruiting has James Coley outperformed Jedd Fisch?
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Jedd Fisch had some horrible games too. He was good at developing QBs and ran some nice trick plays.

that guy is so ****ing overrated here. was he good? sure, but he had some duds.

He scored three ****ing points against South Florida.
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Every OC has their bad games and USF was a prime example of that. Consistency is key and Coley is consistently bad and his dead last 3rd down % tells us all we need to know. He was awful in that category last year and regressed this year. As a coach Coley hasn't developed any player in 2 years and quite frankly has stunted more NFL careers than enhanced them.
 
Ive said this before and ill say it again. Position coaches are only as good as the coordinators they coach for.

I get sick and tired of fans calling for Kehoes head. Every coach has their flaws and he is not perfect by any means but the guy has 5 rings and he knows what it takes.


Furthermore, HE IS A ZONE BLOCKING COACH! He does not coach downhill/powerblocking well AT ALL. Power plays are ones you will see pulling lineman instead of a cohesive unit stepping in one direction to block a "zone".

The zone blocking scheme is almost perfectly designed for the florida style backs like DUke and yearby.

It doesnt call for so much pileup and it allows quicker backs with good vision to find lanes and use their cutback skills.

Despite this clear fact both jedd fisch and coley love to run power blocking run plays.

I was ****ed when Duke got hurt in the fsu game last year because it was all coleys fault. You dont run a power off tackle on 3rd and 2 with a guy like duke johnson. Hes too small.

The pulling guard got jammed in the hole and both him and the d-lineman got rolled on top of duke breaking his ankle with 1000 pounds of pressure.

Switch that play to zone blocking and i can almost guarantee a first down.

go look at our rbs most succesful run plays this season... i guarantee you 95% are on plays that are zone blocked.


Kehoe really excels at that and so does our personell.

So think twice before you call for kehoes head.

We should coach to the teams strengths. not against them.
 
TheRagingWolf said:
Been the best unit on the team since golden got here besides Wrs.

You're an uneducated fool if you think he should be fired.
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I think the exact opposite. The OL has underperformed consistently under golden/kehoe. Pass protection has been above average, probably due to the talent we've had at OL, moreso the past couple years vs this year. But against good teams we never run well. It's the biggest knock on Duke, which i think is completely unfair, because our OL gets manhandled consistently against good teams and Duke has nowhere to run. I'm actually impressed Duke is able to do the little that he does against good teams considering he's breaking tackle after tackle, eluding defenders, and somehow managing to get like 2 yards instead of a 2 or 3 yard loss. Kehoe is the man, true Cane, etc etc, but he needs to be replaced.
 
I've never been impressed by our OL under Kehoe. Not once.

Show me the game where we played against a nasty DL, and his unit stuffed the rush and generated yards, Midwest style. You won't.

Patsies like Cincinnati? No problema...

It's the biggest weakness our team has. Look at KState a couple years back, it's embarrassing how we cannot generate enough push multiple, multiple times for a single yard.

When it's 3rd and 1 on the goal line, I consistently expect failure from a Kehoe line, and have rarely been wrong.
 
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The reality is Golden only gets judged on the next 5 games, and they are more heavily weighted at the end. He wins 3 he's 100% safe, he win's 2 he's 50% safe, he wins 1, he's 25% safe. He wins zero he's probably 100% gone. The next two are huge, he loses those going to FSU and the pressure will be stupid. You could see the kids punting on the season and getting drilled at UVA after going to war Against UVA. BTW, if I have to predict this I think we finish go 1-3 in the next 4 and that is going to make things **** interesting. You could see the older players not wanting to get hurt down the stretch. Crazy ****.


Thu, Oct 23 Virginia Tech
Sat, Nov 01 North Carolina
Sat, Nov 15 Florida State
Sat, Nov 22 Virginia
Sat, Nov 29 Pittsburgh
 
Basically you dont hire what you dont want.

You dont hire a guy like Rick Petri if you run a two gap 3-4 system.

You dont hire a guy like Art kehoe if you want to run power football.


Simple as that.

Dont blame kehoe blame the HC and the OC. Know your **** before you comment/condemn anyone.

Cuz the people calling for Kehoe just look stupid. sorry
 
futurecane said:
I've never been impressed by our OL under Kehoe. Not once.

Show me the game where we played against a nasty DL, and his unit stuffed the rush and generated yards, Midwest style. You won't.

Patsies like Cincinnati? No problema...

It's the biggest weakness our team has. Look at KState a couple years back, it's embarrassing how we cannot generate enough push multiple, multiple times for a single yard.

When it's 3rd and 1 on the goal line, I consistently expect failure from a Kehoe line, and have rarely been wrong.
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Show you the game? Last year vs fsu where duke was 3 yards away from 100 mark before he got hurt. Our o-line was blowing all of that vaunted talent off the ball.

Pruitt adjusted by loading the box and attacking the gaps we pulled lineman from and it shut the run game down.

Instead of adjusting to his adjustments we continued to run power plays into a crowded box like we did against louisville getting duke hurt and thwarting the run game.

Now please tell me how its kehoes fault that we continue to run into more guys than we can defend with plays that GO AGAINST THE STRENGTHS OF OUR TEAM???????????

come on brah. get real man. 5 time champ.
 
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FWIW, the kids love him.

Out of the myriad of problems this team has, Kehoe is nowhere near the top of the list.
 
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