Are we ready to admit Rooster has been a letdown?

Our OL is clearly an issue but we haven’t had our usual RB play here since Deejay left.

I think that’s made clear by Parrish, who was solid but not spectacular at Ole Miss, coming in and being far and away the best rb on the field for us this year.

Knighton and maybe cam Harris should have been 3rd down backs, guys getting the ball in space, neither ever looked comfortable btw the tackles
 
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Our OL is clearly an issue but we haven’t had our usual RB play here since Deejay left.

I think that’s made clear by Parrish, who was solid but not spectacular at Ole Miss, coming in and being far and away the best rb on the field for us this year.

Knighton and maybe cam Harris should have been 3rd down backs, guys getting the ball in space, neither ever looked comfortable btw the tackles
miss cam a lot. he provides a diff element than even 21. 21 is great but hes not capable of breaking off a big explosive run. not that athlete. cam did that fr us he just didnt have the vision imo that 21 has.
 
Not that much though. He fumbled 3 times, lost 2 as a FR. He's fumbled 4 times, lost 3 as a FR

In Knighton's defense:

- He did hustle to make the tackle on the Duke fumble
- He's taking way more heat than Keyshawn Smith who fumbled on the next play
- Knighton's turned it over 6 times in his career. Garcia just turned it over 5 times in 3 quarters. Which is worse?
We aren't talking about Keyshawn or Garcia in this thread though. Keyshawn has not shown that he is prone to fumbling the ball as Knighton has. And Garcia? He was atrociously bad. But again this is a thread about Knighton, not Keyshawn or Garcia. It's great that he didn't give up after fumbling too but that wouldn't be an issue if didn't fumble in the first place.

You also proved my point. He played in more games in his first year with fewer fumbles. He has played in fewer games this year with more fumbles. He has proven that he is prone to fumbling the ball. He has played in 23 games so far in his career and has fumbled the ball 9 times.

Can you name a RB that has fumbled as often as he has in Miami history? I am not sure that I can remember one.

Let me be clear. I want him to succeed. He flashed several times last year and was able to secure the ball A LOT better last year. However, he needs to prove he can hold onto the ball this year.
 
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He’ll declare for the NFL draft , it’ll be different there .
He won’t have the pressure or the physicality he has in CFB that caused his injuries
This will be a positive move for him to enhance and nurture his talent in bringing them to the forefront.

It’s what’s best for his family
 
We aren't talking about Keyshawn or Garcia in this thread though. Keyshawn has not shown that he is prone to fumbling the ball as Knighton has. And Garcia? He was atrociously bad. But again this is a thread about Knighton, not Keyshawn or Garcia. It's great that he didn't give up after fumbling too but that wouldn't be an issue if didn't fumble in the first place.

You also proved my point. He played in more games in his first year with fewer fumbles. He has played in fewer games this year with more fumbles. He has proven that he is prone to fumbling the ball. He has played in 23 games so far in his career and has fumbled the ball 9 times.

Can you name a RB that has fumbled as often as he has in Miami history? I am not sure that I can remember one.

Let me be clear. I want him to succeed. He flashed several times last year and was able to secure the ball A LOT better last year. However, he needs to prove he can hold onto the ball this year.

The point I bolded is what I wanted to discuss. I can’t recall what thread or maybe it was a PM, but this is the part that this fan base love to hold on to, “flashed.”

When talking about our stadium issue, what do the proponents of staying there love to highlight? 2017 ND game. There, it “flashed” at what a home game “could” be. Every time a player is defended, they’ll bring up a play or moment in that player’s career.

The problem is, we’ve had way too many player’s who have “flashed” potential, but not been consistent with it. If u ever wanna know why we’ve been a consistent, on avg., 7-5 team since 2004 it’s b/c for all the stars we’ve brought in, the greater majority of them have either flashed or been straight bust. I used to get caught up in that, as well, as recent as Lo Lingard running for that 80 yrd scamper against SSt; he flashed that game. He’s no where to be found, now.

Jaylan has fumbleitis;

2020 - 9 games (3 fumbles)
2021 - 8 games (2 fumbles)
2022 - 6 games (3 fumbles)

That’s 23 games w/ 8 fumbles or every 1 out of 3 games, he’s coughing up the ball. That’s an absurd ratio. The fact is, it’s not like he’s so valuable on the field where his production can overcome these moments; he’s a career 3.9 ypc back. But, b/c he flashed or had a flash moment against UNC or a flash game against GT, that discounts the other games where he was either fumbling, avg. 2.5 ypc or both.

What we love here is “potential”, & potential is not what teams like Bama, OSU, Clemson, UGA, and the rest of the upper echelon teams rely upon. We have had very few stars & a slew of “potential” guys who have “flashed.” We need more consistent guys who are rock steady + stars that r complimented by guys who can flash.
 
The point I bolded is what I wanted to discuss. I can’t recall what thread or maybe it was a PM, but this is the part that this fan base love to hold on to, “flashed.”

When talking about our stadium issue, what do the proponents of staying there love to highlight? 2017 ND game. There, it “flashed” at what a home game “could” be. Every time a player is defended, they’ll bring up a play or moment in that player’s career.

The problem is, we’ve had way too many player’s who have “flashed” potential, but not been consistent with it. If u ever wanna know why we’ve been a consistent, on avg., 7-5 team since 2004 it’s b/c for all the stars we’ve brought in, the greater majority of them have either flashed or been straight bust. I used to get caught up in that, as well, as recent as Lo Lingard running for that 80 yrd scamper against SSt; he flashed that game. He’s no where to be found, now.

Jaylan has fumbleitis;

2020 - 9 games (3 fumbles)
2021 - 8 games (2 fumbles)
2022 - 6 games (3 fumbles)

That’s 23 games w/ 8 fumbles or every 1 out of 3 games, he’s coughing up the ball. That’s an absurd ratio. The fact is, it’s not like he’s so valuable on the field where his production can overcome these moments; he’s a career 3.9 ypc back. But, b/c he flashed or had a flash moment against UNC or a flash game against GT, that discounts the other games where he was either fumbling, avg. 2.5 ypc or both.

What we love here is “potential”, & potential is not what teams like Bama, OSU, Clemson, UGA, and the rest of the upper echelon teams rely upon. We have had very few stars & a slew of “potential” guys who have “flashed.” We need more consistent guys who are rock steady + stars that r complimented by guys who can flash.
Bruh, he's trash. At least last year he flashed and fumbled. This year he's just ******* fumbling and not doing any flashing whatsoever.
 
The point I bolded is what I wanted to discuss. I can’t recall what thread or maybe it was a PM, but this is the part that this fan base love to hold on to, “flashed.”

When talking about our stadium issue, what do the proponents of staying there love to highlight? 2017 ND game. There, it “flashed” at what a home game “could” be. Every time a player is defended, they’ll bring up a play or moment in that player’s career.

The problem is, we’ve had way too many player’s who have “flashed” potential, but not been consistent with it. If u ever wanna know why we’ve been a consistent, on avg., 7-5 team since 2004 it’s b/c for all the stars we’ve brought in, the greater majority of them have either flashed or been straight bust. I used to get caught up in that, as well, as recent as Lo Lingard running for that 80 yrd scamper against SSt; he flashed that game. He’s no where to be found, now.

Jaylan has fumbleitis;

2020 - 9 games (3 fumbles)
2021 - 8 games (2 fumbles)
2022 - 6 games (3 fumbles)

That’s 23 games w/ 8 fumbles or every 1 out of 3 games, he’s coughing up the ball. That’s an absurd ratio. The fact is, it’s not like he’s so valuable on the field where his production can overcome these moments; he’s a career 3.9 ypc back. But, b/c he flashed or had a flash moment against UNC or a flash game against GT, that discounts the other games where he was either fumbling, avg. 2.5 ypc or both.

What we love here is “potential”, & potential is not what teams like Bama, OSU, Clemson, UGA, and the rest of the upper echelon teams rely upon. We have had very few stars & a slew of “potential” guys who have “flashed.” We need more consistent guys who are rock steady + stars that r complimented by guys who can flash.
I agree 100%. We have had tons of guys with potential for the past 15+ years. The problem, as you mentioned, is potential doesn't mean **** unless you can use it and prove it consistently.

Potential is like the old adage "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush." I'd rather see a guy that has less "potential" perform and play his heart out over having a guy with a ton of potential that can't prove it.
 
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I agree 100%. We have had tons of guys with potential for the past 15+ years. The problem, as you mentioned, is potential doesn't mean **** unless you can use it and prove it consistently.

Potential is like the old adage "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush." I'd rather see a guy that has less "potential" perform and play his heart out over having a guy with a ton of potential that can't prove it.

It's a slippery slope between Potential & Expectations vs Mis-Evaluations.

A lot of people thought Knighton had Duke Johnson potential. He never did. Anyone who thought that just mis-evaluated him (which happens all the time)

Knighton definitely had more potential than he's shown, but I think what people still think he could potentially be remains much higher than his actual ability.
 
Knighton does indeed have a fumbling problem.

He’s also misused. He’s not a feature back. He should not be asked to pound the rock between the tackles. His best role is as a utility player, catching 5-6 passes out of the backfield and 5-10 carries outside.

And he’s also been dinged this season.
 
He’ll declare for the NFL draft , it’ll be different there .
He won’t have the pressure or the physicality he has in CFB that caused his injuries
This will be a positive move for him to enhance and nurture his talent in bringing them to the forefront.

It’s what’s best for his family
Knighton gets little boyed in the ACC. A full NFL game would be awful for his health. He's bad against guys that will never see an NFL practice squad. Not sure football is his thing tbh.
 
I bet Thad eats his way into the portal, Knighton and Chaney would rather fumble and smoke up. Citizen is coming back from a major knee injury, Parrish is the only legit guy.
 
Knighton does indeed have a fumbling problem.

He’s also misused. He’s not a feature back. He should not be asked to pound the rock between the tackles. His best role is as a utility player, catching 5-6 passes out of the backfield and 5-10 carries outside.

And he’s also been dinged this season.

I'm with you on using Knighton as a receiver. But in the run game - there's not much that can be done.

Knighton averaged 3.9 ypc as a starter & 3.9 ypc as a backup. Same results no matter what his role is.

As for running outside - look at my screenshots on page 3 of this thread. Tons room to the outside & he continues to run straight at defenders up the middle.

Knighton's a very "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink" type runner. When he's given space, he doesn't capitalize. He often wastes it.
 
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