AQM Suspended for the 2014 season

[WhatTheHell]

1. AQM can blame nobody but himself. He has to be smarter.

2. I personally witnessed the brawl at FSU between some Sigmas, and some WRs. That brawl included
-The players starting the brawl by jumping a Sigma
-at least 10 people
-a girl with a broke nose after being hit by a chair
-a girl punched in the face after trying to break it up
-players throwing Sigmas down stairs
-two players arrested for
misdemeanor assault......Yet, all of the players involved received a one game suspension, while the Sigmas fraternity was not recognized for 2 years. This means either Golden has no influence, or the administration is full of people who are absolute jackasses. Probably both

pat whitely (vp who handled this case) is one of the worst administrators that i've ever been around in my life, as a student and as someone that works in higher ed. when i was a student, she sent me a cease-and-desist letter when i was trying to raise money for the va tech victims fund after the massacre because it was undermining the university's measly $10,000 donation. **** pat whitely.

Lol this would never happen

You would only get issued a cease and desist letter if you were using the University's name or brand without permission.

except for the time that it did. the plan was to make shirts and have the proceeds donated to vt and it was all handled through a facebook group. i got paul dee to approve the use of the u, which was still expressly under the athletic department's control back then. va tech's people asked me to get a student org to sponsor me so they could release their logo for use. then pat whitely sent me a wonderful email that told me to stop. i had to go through dean singleton to reach a compromise where the shirts with my design would help pay for the candlelight vigil.

if you were there in the spring of 2007, you may recognize this. 500 were printed, sold at $10 a piece, and they sold out within 2 hours. the proceeds of that were 1/4 of the university's total contribution.
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Well clearly in this case she rejected it because the logo is hideous.

 

[DiegoCane]

I got this off the Rivals MB.....

AQM was rooming with a walk-on that supposedly is no longer on the team. AQM brought through his fam, wife and kid, and the roommate objected and got confrontational. In the midst of that he knocked over AQM's kid, and then AQM did what any father would....

If this is true, Im embarrassed for the University of Miami........

1. Who is this walkon?
2. Why is he rooming with a walkon?

This is a true embarrassment for the admin, he gets suspended for the year at no other university in D1. The whole program is a mess, maybe people are right and it is dead.

 

[Tad Footeball]

Let's get a few things clear

The Student Conduct Committee will only a hear a case when either a victim or the police go to Student Affairs and alerts the department to a wrongdoing. Most of the examples being listed are not cases where the Student Conduct Committee has had to hear a case.

Once the Student Conduct Committee launches an investigation, they can choose to issue a temporary suspension (in which you cannot enroll into classes). They often do not do this because the student may end up being cleared. The committee will have a hearing in which either ONE person makes a decision or a committee hears the case. The defendant has the option to choose either type of hearing.

This is not high school where you can get suspended for 2 weeks and it does not run like the athletic department where they can suspend you for a certain amount of games. The sentences are by semester, understandably because you would not be able to attend all your classes in one semester.

The decision is not based on the legal system's protocol where you only have to establish reasonable doubt. If the case against you is more than likely to be true, you will be found guilty and sentenced. Sentences are either probation or suspension for a semester or year.

Give me an appropriate instance where the police would choose not to file charges but would hand off the case to a university committee. Especially something physical in nature.

 

[The Franchise]

Alabama admin wouldn't have the nerve to do something like this to Saban.

******* ******** man.

Saban makes money for bama. Greaseball costs UM money. Bottom bytch (Saban) gets better treatment from the pimp than a $5 ******** hooker(Greaseball).

 

[showtime]

Let's get a few things clear

The Student Conduct Committee will only a hear a case when either a victim or the police go to Student Affairs and alerts the department to a wrongdoing. Most of the examples being listed are not cases where the Student Conduct Committee has had to hear a case.

Once the Student Conduct Committee launches an investigation, they can choose to issue a temporary suspension (in which you cannot enroll into classes). They often do not do this because the student may end up being cleared. The committee will have a hearing in which either ONE person makes a decision or a committee hears the case. The defendant has the option to choose either type of hearing.

This is not high school where you can get suspended for 2 weeks and it does not run like the athletic department where they can suspend you for a certain amount of games. The sentences are by semester, understandably because you would not be able to attend all your classes in one semester.

The decision is not based on the legal system's protocol where you only have to establish reasonable doubt. If the case against you is more than likely to be true, you will be found guilty and sentenced. Sentences are either probation or suspension for a semester or year.

Give me an appropriate instance where the police would choose not to file charges but would hand off the case to a university committee. Especially something physical in nature.

I don't know about "appropriate", but it happens all the time.

 

[dookie blaylock]

Let's get a few things clear

The Student Conduct Committee will only a hear a case when either a victim or the police go to Student Affairs and alerts the department to a wrongdoing. Most of the examples being listed are not cases where the Student Conduct Committee has had to hear a case.

Once the Student Conduct Committee launches an investigation, they can choose to issue a temporary suspension (in which you cannot enroll into classes). They often do not do this because the student may end up being cleared. The committee will have a hearing in which either ONE person makes a decision or a committee hears the case. The defendant has the option to choose either type of hearing.

This is not high school where you can get suspended for 2 weeks and it does not run like the athletic department where they can suspend you for a certain amount of games. The sentences are by semester, understandably because you would not be able to attend all your classes in one semester.

The decision is not based on the legal system's protocol where you only have to establish reasonable doubt. If the case against you is more than likely to be true, you will be found guilty and sentenced. Sentences are either probation or suspension for a semester or year.

Give me an appropriate instance where the police would choose not to file charges but would hand off the case to a university committee. Especially something physical in nature.

i'll take "when a national championship is on the line" for $500. -willie meggs

 

[terdferguson]

da**** is this ****?

 

[can4life]

I got this off the Rivals MB.....

AQM was rooming with a walk-on that supposedly is no longer on the team. AQM brought through his fam, wife and kid, and the roommate objected and got confrontational. In the midst of that he knocked over AQM's kid, and then AQM did what any father would....

for some reason i believe that story man people be trying football players at these university's i guess they feel like the player wont do nothing because they dont want to get kicked out... AQM should of got some of my liberty city goons to come handle that for him...

 

[showtime]

1. AQM can blame nobody but himself. He has to be smarter.

2. I personally witnessed the brawl at FSU between some Sigmas, and some WRs. That brawl included
-The players starting the brawl by jumping a Sigma
-at least 10 people
-a girl with a broke nose after being hit by a chair
-a girl punched in the face after trying to break it up
-players throwing Sigmas down stairs
-two players arrested for
misdemeanor assault......Yet, all of the players involved received a one game suspension, while the Sigmas fraternity was not recognized for 2 years. This means either Golden has no influence, or the administration is full of people who are absolute jackasses. Probably both

pat whitely (vp who handled this case) is one of the worst administrators that i've ever been around in my life, as a student and as someone that works in higher ed. when i was a student, she sent me a cease-and-desist letter when i was trying to raise money for the va tech victims fund after the massacre because it was undermining the university's measly $10,000 donation. **** pat whitely.

Lol this would never happen

You would only get issued a cease and desist letter if you were using the University's name or brand without permission.

except for the time that it did. the plan was to make shirts and have the proceeds donated to vt and it was all handled through a facebook group. i got paul dee to approve the use of the u, which was still expressly under the athletic department's control back then. va tech's people asked me to get a student org to sponsor me so they could release their logo for use. then pat whitely sent me a wonderful email that told me to stop. i had to go through dean singleton to reach a compromise where the shirts with my design would help pay for the candlelight vigil.

if you were there in the spring of 2007, you may recognize this. 500 were printed, sold at $10 a piece, and they sold out within 2 hours. the proceeds of that were 1/4 of the university's total contribution.
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My apologies then. The sorry just seemed off. It is very, very rare for a university to allow students to generate money from the use of their branding.

 

[Tad Footeball]

Let's get a few things clear

The Student Conduct Committee will only a hear a case when either a victim or the police go to Student Affairs and alerts the department to a wrongdoing. Most of the examples being listed are not cases where the Student Conduct Committee has had to hear a case.

Once the Student Conduct Committee launches an investigation, they can choose to issue a temporary suspension (in which you cannot enroll into classes). They often do not do this because the student may end up being cleared. The committee will have a hearing in which either ONE person makes a decision or a committee hears the case. The defendant has the option to choose either type of hearing.

This is not high school where you can get suspended for 2 weeks and it does not run like the athletic department where they can suspend you for a certain amount of games. The sentences are by semester, understandably because you would not be able to attend all your classes in one semester.

The decision is not based on the legal system's protocol where you only have to establish reasonable doubt. If the case against you is more than likely to be true, you will be found guilty and sentenced. Sentences are either probation or suspension for a semester or year.

Give me an appropriate instance where the police would choose not to file charges but would hand off the case to a university committee. Especially something physical in nature.

I don't know about "appropriate", but it happens all the time.

Then the "victim" should take issue with local law enforcement for not doing their jobs. Sue them. Until then, the university shouldn't assume the responsibility and liability for doling out punishment for "crimes" like these. As was mentioned, AQM probably could fight this himself via a lawyer but is put in a position whereas it's made easier just to accept whatever the council says. Nonetheless, these kind of things don't belong handled by university councils adhering to code of conducts that have no legal worth.

This guy should have been present at AQM's side during this farce:

 

[showtime]

Let's get a few things clear

The Student Conduct Committee will only a hear a case when either a victim or the police go to Student Affairs and alerts the department to a wrongdoing. Most of the examples being listed are not cases where the Student Conduct Committee has had to hear a case.

Once the Student Conduct Committee launches an investigation, they can choose to issue a temporary suspension (in which you cannot enroll into classes). They often do not do this because the student may end up being cleared. The committee will have a hearing in which either ONE person makes a decision or a committee hears the case. The defendant has the option to choose either type of hearing.

This is not high school where you can get suspended for 2 weeks and it does not run like the athletic department where they can suspend you for a certain amount of games. The sentences are by semester, understandably because you would not be able to attend all your classes in one semester.

The decision is not based on the legal system's protocol where you only have to establish reasonable doubt. If the case against you is more than likely to be true, you will be found guilty and sentenced. Sentences are either probation or suspension for a semester or year.

Give me an appropriate instance where the police would choose not to file charges but would hand off the case to a university committee. Especially something physical in nature.

I don't know about "appropriate", but it happens all the time.

Then the "victim" should take issue with local law enforcement for not doing their jobs. Sue them. Until then, the university shouldn't assume the responsibility and liability for doling out punishment for "crimes" like these. As was mentioned, AQM probably could fight this himself via a lawyer but is put in a position whereas it's made easier just to accept whatever the council says. Nonetheless, these kind of things don't belong handled by university councils adhering to code of conducts that have no legal worth.

This guy should have been present at AQM's side during this farce:

Lol I agree completely that Student Affairs should not have so much power and such a loose standard for conviction. But Student Conduct does carry legal weight and is unfortunately something the staff should prepare for in the future. And to add, there are plenty of cases where law enforcement does not have evidence against the defendant and sends the case to Student Affairs because Student Affairs does not need evidence. They go off their sense of "right or wrong". It's not just an AQM issue. This is an issue many students face each year. I think the Committee should be held to the same standards as the courts.

 

[The Franchise]

LULZ at any student who voluntarily serves on an honor committee. What a bunch of power tripping dorks.

Friend of mine at UM beat his roommate to a bloody pulp. UM didn't kick him out. Instead, they moved in a new roommate who could kick his ***. Problem solved.

 

[Ibis Wingz]

And to add, there are plenty of cases where law enforcement does not have evidence against the defendant and sends the case to Student Affairs because Student Affairs does not need evidence. They go off their sense of "right or wrong". It's not just an AQM issue. This is an issue many students face each year. I think the Committee should be held to the same standards as the courts.

Isn't this the definition of "arbitrary and capricious?"

 

[Canesfan1899]

They took forever to come to this decision, if they've known about it for months what the **** were they doing all this time.

The whole thing is rediculous, just a ******* shame. You give the kid a 2 game suspension, you teach how to deal with anger and you let him gorw as a human being and as a student athlete. This just seems like the school turning their back on the kid and letting him figure things out on his own.

 

[Ibis Wingz]

Friend of mine at UM beat his roommate to a bloody pulp. UM didn't kick him out. Instead, they moved in a new roommate who could kick his ***. Problem solved.

True story, the victim was lying in a puddle of his own blood and ****.

 

[cowboycane]

Let's get a few things clear

The Student Conduct Committee will only a hear a case when either a victim or the police go to Student Affairs and alerts the department to a wrongdoing. Most of the examples being listed are not cases where the Student Conduct Committee has had to hear a case.

Once the Student Conduct Committee launches an investigation, they can choose to issue a temporary suspension (in which you cannot enroll into classes). They often do not do this because the student may end up being cleared. The committee will have a hearing in which either ONE person makes a decision or a committee hears the case. The defendant has the option to choose either type of hearing.

This is not high school where you can get suspended for 2 weeks and it does not run like the athletic department where they can suspend you for a certain amount of games. The sentences are by semester, understandably because you would not be able to attend all your classes in one semester.

The decision is not based on the legal system's protocol where you only have to establish reasonable doubt. If the case against you is more than likely to be true, you will be found guilty and sentenced. Sentences are either probation or suspension for a semester or year.

Give me an appropriate instance where the police would choose not to file charges but would hand off the case to a university committee. Especially something physical in nature.

I don't know about "appropriate", but it happens all the time.

Then the "victim" should take issue with local law enforcement for not doing their jobs. Sue them. Until then, the university shouldn't assume the responsibility and liability for doling out punishment for "crimes" like these. As was mentioned, AQM probably could fight this himself via a lawyer but is put in a position whereas it's made easier just to accept whatever the council says. Nonetheless, these kind of things don't belong handled by university councils adhering to code of conducts that have no legal worth.

This guy should have been present at AQM's side during this farce:

Lol I agree completely that Student Affairs should not have so much power and such a loose standard for conviction. But Student Conduct does carry legal weight and is unfortunately something the staff should prepare for in the future. And to add, there are plenty of cases where law enforcement does not have evidence against the defendant and sends the case to Student Affairs because Student Affairs does not need evidence. They go off their sense of "right or wrong". It's not just an AQM issue. This is an issue many students face each year. I think the Committee should be held to the same standards as the courts.

New banner: Fire Pat Whitley, Free AQM

 

[dk72]

"Thank God we got rid of that violent black Muslim. Who knows who he'd target next!"

- Student Affairs

When you've absolutely nothing else, play the imaginary race (and religion) card.

 

[dk72]

Let's get a few things clear

The Student Conduct Committee will only a hear a case when either a victim or the police go to Student Affairs and alerts the department to a wrongdoing. Most of the examples being listed are not cases where the Student Conduct Committee has had to hear a case.

Once the Student Conduct Committee launches an investigation, they can choose to issue a temporary suspension (in which you cannot enroll into classes). They often do not do this because the student may end up being cleared. The committee will have a hearing in which either ONE person makes a decision or a committee hears the case. The defendant has the option to choose either type of hearing.

This is not high school where you can get suspended for 2 weeks and it does not run like the athletic department where they can suspend you for a certain amount of games. The sentences are by semester, understandably because you would not be able to attend all your classes in one semester.

The decision is not based on the legal system's protocol where you only have to establish reasonable doubt. If the case against you is more than likely to be true, you will be found guilty and sentenced. Sentences are either probation or suspension for a semester or year.

Give me an appropriate instance where the police would choose not to file charges but would hand off the case to a university committee. Especially something physical in nature.

If the victim determines that he doesn't want to press charges, but insists that it goes through the university disciplinary process.

 

[WhatTheHell]

"Thank God we got rid of that violent black Muslim. Who knows who he'd target next!"

- Student Affairs

When you've absolutely nothing else, play the imaginary race (and religion) card.

I have nothing else? Can you read, or do you need me to tell you that you are in the overwhelming minority when it comes to siding with this punishment?

 

[weownfsu]

LULZ at any student who voluntarily serves on an honor committee. What a bunch of power tripping dorks.

Friend of mine at UM beat his roommate to a bloody pulp. UM didn't kick him out. Instead, they moved in a new roommate who could kick his ***. Problem solved.

Poor bomb.