... sick of all these old head Miami Hurricanes' fans not letting go of the past, and clinging on to a dude from 20 years ago so that they can pretend they're still the same guys they were 20 years ago?
Butch Davis to UM is what Joe Gibbs was to the Washington Redskins.
Gibbs was an all-time great with the Redskins during his prime, winning 67% of his games ... But when he came back to re-build the team, he was below .500.
And I'm guessing there was probably a similarly vocal contingent of Redskins' fans who cited what Joe did before for the team, and how he would do it again.
But things change ...
Butch has been away from UM for 15 years ... And he's been out of coaching for 5 years.
Neither of those facts lend credence to the arguments some of yall keep posting, that he is "a sure thing", "can't miss" coaching hire.
I almost wish we'd hire Butch just to shut y'all up. Almost ...
Who's that super old Dude that coached Kansas st, left, then came back and kicked our *** and went to a bcs game?
Dee Snyder
That man is a goddam genius. 16 time world champion too. I saw him in Palm Beach once.
I think he meant Duke Snyder......Wasn't Dee Snyder some guy with a really twisted sister?
This old dude Butch went 8-5 for 3 consecutive years At North Carolina...he never lived up to expectations there...you'll need to stop hyping up this old fart.Only team he beat was us because his safeties continued to run pick 6's off Jacory. Mack Brown took North Carolins tp astounding heights in 96 and 97 I think they were 11-1 both of those years... Butch is no savior...I ride with OP
In between Mack Brown and Butch Davis, UNC won 8 games once. UNC had won 27 games over the previous 6 years to Butch. But oh yeah he disappointed alright. Stick to trashing Mark Walton.
I would rather have a top 10 coach that's a little younger, football has changed over the years.
Nick Saban, Urban Liar, and Gary Patterson say hello. All big time coaches and over or close to 50.
You can explain to these pups, but you can't understand to these pups.
Give me Nick, Urban, or Les and I'll be quite happy
... sick of all these old head Miami Hurricanes' fans not letting go of the past, and clinging on to a dude from 20 years ago so that they can pretend they're still the same guys they were 20 years ago?
Butch Davis to UM is what Joe Gibbs was to the Washington Redskins.
Gibbs was an all-time great with the Redskins during his prime, winning 67% of his games ... But when he came back to re-build the team, he was below .500.
And I'm guessing there was probably a similarly vocal contingent of Redskins' fans who cited what Joe did before for the team, and how he would do it again.
But things change ...
Butch has been away from UM for 15 years ... And he's been out of coaching for 5 years.
Neither of those facts lend credence to the arguments some of yall keep posting, that he is "a sure thing", "can't miss" coaching hire.
I almost wish we'd hire Butch just to shut y'all up. Almost ...
Yep because the NFL and college are the same conceptual entity.
Joe Gibbs was out of the NFL for 12 years. Butch has been out of college for 5 and was still around football and not NASCAR.
The facts that recruiting and basic instruction are what we need right now and that is irrelevant to the NFL means nothing to you I guess.
You have literally no evidence that Butch wouldn't be successful here, just some weird bitterness towards him.
His eye for talent is still elite, his recruiting is unmatched, and his ability to select assistants is unquestioned.
I almost wish that somebody else would hire Butch so you can see the error of your ways. Almost.
"Pups." I was there and remember Butch and his inadequacies well. Coaches like Urban, or Saban, or Patterson would slap Butch silly. Even Blandy beat him. No thanks (unless there is absolutely no other reasonable option available).
The top 3 coaches in college are better than Butch? I guess we should criticize Tom Osborne for the fact that Bobby Bowden, Bear Bryant, and Woody Hayes were better than him. Galen Hall once beat Jimmy Johnson. Is he better than Jimmy? Who do you recommend, Coach TRock305?
"Pups." I was there and remember Butch and his inadequacies well. Coaches like Urban, or Saban, or Patterson would slap Butch silly. Even Blandy beat him. No thanks (unless there is absolutely no other reasonable option available).
"Pups." I was there and remember Butch and his inadequacies well. Coaches like Urban, or Saban, or Patterson would slap Butch silly. Even Blandy beat him. No thanks (unless there is absolutely no other reasonable option available).
Are you seriously that dense? Ever look at the occasional losses by Meyer? Saban? Name any successful coach, and they on occasion will lose a game.
Just don't have the sense to form a comparative thought - reason it out - check your information.
We get Butch - and Urban and Saban will more likely be the ones getting biiitch slapped.
His teams whipped everyone.
RThis old dude Butch went 8-5 for 3 consecutive years At North Carolina...he never lived up to expectations there...you'll need to stop hyping up this old fart.Only team he beat was us because his safeties continued to run pick 6's off Jacory. Mack Brown took North Carolins tp astounding heights in 96 and 97 I think they were 11-1 both of those years... Butch is no savior...I ride with OP
In between Mack Brown and Butch Davis, UNC won 8 games once. UNC had won 27 games over the previous 6 years to Butch. But oh yeah he disappointed alright. Stick to trashing Mark Walton.
Went 8-5 two years in a row with major talent...lost both of his bowl game. I won't even count his last year when they went 7-5 .... He is overrated because of his crooting. Now everyone is crooting down here it won't be the same... I mean he better then golden, schiano, and cristabol but he is not our savior
And oh yea Walton is averaging 2.9 yards a carry his last 3 games against garbage teams
End Thread no Butch"Pups." I was there and remember Butch and his inadequacies well. Coaches like Urban, or Saban, or Patterson would slap Butch silly. Even Blandy beat him. No thanks (unless there is absolutely no other reasonable option available).
The top 3 coaches in college are better than Butch? I guess we should criticize Tom Osborne for the fact that Bobby Bowden, Bear Bryant, and Woody Hayes were better than him. Galen Hall once beat Jimmy Johnson. Is he better than Jimmy? Who do you recommend, Coach TRock305?
Read the prior posts; others were comparing those guys to Botch in terms of age. There is no comparison between these guys and Butch, however. Butch was consistently outsmarted and it took enormous talent to overcome his deficits. Sure, he, along with people like Chud, Coker, Pagano, Schiano etc put together an incredible roster his last three seasons but he also managed to underperform two of those 3 years. 66-13 with the conf title on the line... smh. And, for some reason Butch is credited as being solely responsible for those rosters, as if coordinators and assistants don't do the bulk of recruiting work. Sure, if Butch could put together an incredible staff, and if they could re-create one of the best rosters in college football history again, he might manage to get into a conference championship game; but that's a lot of ifs. There is no guarantee of that after all this time, and particularly with an administration that isn't willing to bend the rules to let anyone the coach wants into the University. With this admin., UM is far better off with an Xs & Os guy. I'm not going to pretend to have watched enough of the Houstons, Memphises, and Northern Illinois of the college football world to know who the best coaches are right now.
But I've seen enough of Butch to know he ain't it.
Stop watching the 30 for 30s. It's ancient history. UM needs to turn the page.