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... sick of all these old head Miami Hurricanes' fans not letting go of the past, and clinging on to a dude from 20 years ago so that they can pretend they're still the same guys they were 20 years ago?


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Butch Davis to UM is what Joe Gibbs was to the Washington Redskins.

Gibbs was an all-time great with the Redskins during his prime, winning 67% of his games ... But when he came back to re-build the team, he was below .500.

And I'm guessing there was probably a similarly vocal contingent of Redskins' fans who cited what Joe did before for the team, and how he would do it again.

But things change ...

Butch has been away from UM for 15 years ... And he's been out of coaching for 5 years.

Neither of those facts lend credence to the arguments some of yall keep posting, that he is "a sure thing", "can't miss" coaching hire.

I almost wish we'd hire Butch just to shut y'all up. Almost ...
 
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Joe Gibbs failed the 2nd time around because of Dan Synder not because he forgot how to coach.
 
I kinda feel the same way, hiring butch is basically hiring for the older times, we need a new guy for the new times, herman fits that perfectly
 
I know I'm sick and tired of pups who just got off momma's *** postulating coaching offers who suck. Youngsters who go for a little flash, think they're smarter than anyone, and don't realize they don't know half the siht that they think they do.

They don't appreciate the value of performance, wisdom, credibility, reliability, experience, and burn. It's probably because just coming off the *** - they don't remember some things.

There's a reason that a Command Sergeant Major is older than the Private E-1. Just because a guy is a good squad leader doesn't mean he's worth a **** at being Company Commander.

So those of you who keep wanting the newest, latest thing - and feel that someone like Butch Davis is old and senile - he'll whip your Strong, Chud, Mario, Schiano, and all the other turds I've seen mentioned here with regularity - nine times out of ten.

And. Everyone leaves. Young guys - they get a little bit better offer - and they're GONE. It cuts both ways with youngsters.

We absolutely cannot afford one more damned EXPERIMENT.

Or we're DONE.

But you keep flinging out these splashes in the pan. Shows how damned dumb some are.
 
ball915 said:
Joe Gibbs failed the 2nd time around because of Dan Synder not because he forgot how to coach.
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I completely disagree. He failed because he didn't adapt to the times. His offensive scheme was from the 1980s and played way too conservative. Synder didn't help and was apart of the failure but he was failing with that 1980s offense no matter who his owner was.
 
I would rather have a top 10 coach that's a little younger, football has changed over the years.
 
CaneOil said:
I would rather have a top 10 coach that's a little younger, football has changed over the years.
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Really? Football has changed?

It also changed after Butch left Miami earlier - and when he got back to college football at 3-9 UNC, he started kicking UM"s ***.

Apparently, it hasn't changed as much as you think it has.
 
UMFarArcher said:
CaneOil said:
I would rather have a top 10 coach that's a little younger, football has changed over the years.
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Really? Football has changed?

It also changed after Butch left Miami earlier - and when he got back to college football at 3-9 UNC, he started kicking UM"s ***.

Apparently, it hasn't changed as much as you think it has.
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Guysm, you have to run the spread offense guysm, look how many championships have been won with the spread guysm.
 
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UMFarArcher said:
CaneOil said:
I would rather have a top 10 coach that's a little younger, football has changed over the years.
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Really? Football has changed?

It also changed after Butch left Miami earlier - and when he got back to college football at 3-9 UNC, he started kicking UM"s ***.

Apparently, it hasn't changed as much as you think it has.
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It's changed quite a bit, Butch has never won anything, give me a winner. He's right on the line of being too old, spend the money and get a winner.
 
My biggest questions about Butch is how his defenses would adapt to the up tempo spread offense of today? Because he hasn't faced them at his time at UNC or UM.

Also, during his time at UNC he had a 28-23 record over a four year period with a lot of talent.
 
Who's that super old Dude that coached Kansas st, left, then came back and kicked our *** and went to a bcs game?.....
 
We are "clinging on" to Butch so we "can pretend [we're] still the same guys they were 20 years ago."

There is so much wrong with this statement (and the entire post) that it's just beyond laughable.

If there were an available and proven coach that UM would be willing to shell out big dollars to bring in -- eg Patterson -- then the vast majority of us "old head Miami Hurricanes' fans" would jump for joy with bells on. I could not care less how young that hypothetical coach is. In fact, the younger, the better, if he has a proven record as a head coach.

We aren't clinging to the past. This program is barely on life support, and cannot afford another head coach experiment, after three consecutive failures. Butch is the perfect fit, bc he won't demand $4+ million, and he is among the best at identifying talent and developing it. He did it here, as we have discussed ad nauseum. He also did it at historically bad UNC.
 
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I like you Far Archer but i think your wrong here, I would take Butch over some new guys but not all..
 
This old dude Butch went 8-5 for 3 consecutive years At North Carolina...he never lived up to expectations there...you'll need to stop hyping up this old fart.Only team he beat was us because his safeties continued to run pick 6's off Jacory. Mack Brown took North Carolins tp astounding heights in 96 and 97 I think they were 11-1 both of those years... Butch is no savior...I ride with OP
 
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pimpcane1 said:
My biggest questions about Butch is how his defenses would adapt to the up tempo spread offense of today? Because he hasn't faced them at his time at UNC or UM.

Also, during his time at UNC he had a 28-23 record over a four year period with a lot of talent.
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You guys really don't get it.

Butch will turn and burn for one reason - and coincidentally - Butch was practicing it long before Urban Meyer mentioned it.

Butch carefully evaluates the best athletes he can find - and then he finds out what position they'd do best at to take advantage of their talents and skills.

That's how when he inherited his 3-9 UNC team, and at the time NO ONE wanted to play football for UNC - he had to start from scratch. His last year, without nine starters - he went 8-5.

Any dumbass who relates his overall record is lazy, uninformed, ignorant, and his feet stink.
 
pimpcane1 said:
My biggest questions about Butch is how his defenses would adapt to the up tempo spread offense of today? Because he hasn't faced them at his time at UNC or UM.

Also, during his time at UNC he had a 28-23 record over a four year period with a lot of talent.
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Yup the game has changed, the Butch lovers would be flying a banner just as they did against him years ago.
 
After this weekend, the crowd who doesn't want Change will want change and join us who demand change,
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