Another November

[cway313]

The portal QB we hope to get, is he the starting QB at his current school?

He is from Miami.

 

[canesdude]

He is from Miami.

Pratt then, thanks.

 

[cway313]

Pratt then, thanks.

That is the Miami way. Identify one candidate don't do a thorough vetting process.

 

[JG13]

Miami, where “ next year” is just a year away….always

My favorite time as a Miami fan is the off-season because at least you have hope of the unknown.

 

[Papa_Cane]

Please tell me a game on our schedule that would be a loss if we had good to great QB play with this exact roster.

 

[One9]

That is the Miami way. Identify one candidate don't do a thorough vetting process.

Save the time from the coaching/player search and put that time into the 3-4 month interview and vetting process.

 

[AUcane]

The Dolphins and 49ers use fullbacks more than anybody in the league. The Rams have their WRs blocking front seven players like we do with Restrepo.

I’m not defending our offense because the results are the results. But the TuFf and FyZiCal meme is silly to me. Winning teams want to be tough and physical, as you can see when you look at the top teams.

It's a meme because coaches seem to want to do it at the expense of everything else (creativity, aggressiveness, etc etc) and for the sake of being physical - it's empty rhetoric. I'm fine with being a physical team - nobody is saying we shouldn't be physical. That's not why it's a meme.

 

[JBCanes-NC]

another 7-5. Safest bet in sports the last 20 years

 

[ItsAUThing.com]

Talent gap closed isn't a sign of progress:

2021 we were favored and we came out flat and then came back to have a let-down against FSU. Manny's only loss.

2022 Mario gets murdered 45-3. Did FSU close the talent gap or the coaching gap?

2023 Mario looses again but it was close. Great, Golden did that as well.

This talent gap thing is nonsense. Good coaches win with loser players. Every championship coach over the last 40 years hasn't needed time to get more talent before they started producing strong winning seasons.

Mario has already missed the mark on #of wins in the first two years on what every other championship coach the last 40 years. Most of them didn't have the portal. None had stacked classes.

2021: Miami was flat the entire season; 2-4 out the gate, came alive a few games with Van Dyke (against ranked teams) when backs were to the wall and Miami played with nothing to lose. Once the stakes were raised for a road game against Florida State, Manny's team no-showed, played tight and choked late.

2022: Being that Florida State started 3-6 under Norvell, 0-4 out the gate in year two and was 6-12 overall going into the Miami game—and then followed up with a season-opening win over LSU in year three and went 10-3 overall—yeah, we could say the Seminoles finally closed the talent gap... and their once left-for-dead quarterback Jordan Travis became a player.

2023: There are no moral victories, but if you can't see a one-year difference between losing by 42 points at home in year one under Mario, to going on the road against a No. FSU squad—the Canes with a true freshman quarterback (and a slew of newbies all over the field) while the Noles fielded a Heisman candidate at quarterback, with some solid portal talent all over that offense—down seven with a chance to tie the game late... you're purposely sh*tting on this thing.

Just say you think Mario sucks and spare everyone the fluff.

 

[ItsAUThing.com]

another 7-5. Safest bet in sports the last 20 years

Yup.

Add up every Miami season going back to the 2005 Peach Bowl massacre against LSU and it averages out to 7-5 annually for 16 straight season—and will be 17 after this one.

Of course we've never seen it like this, though—a 4-0 start where Miami actually appears to have solved the quarterback issue as TVD threw for 374 yards and five touchdowns against Texas A&M—11 touchdowns to one interception his first four games of the year... and is now sitting on 11 interceptions, five touchdown and two fumbles in his last four games. Brutal.

 

[mcnaire2004]

2021: Miami was flat the entire season; 2-4 out the gate, came alive a few games with Van Dyke (against ranked teams) when backs were to the wall and Miami played with nothing to lose. Once the stakes were raised for a road game against Florida State, Manny's team no-showed, played tight and choked late.

Restated what I said. Glad you understand.

2022: Being that Florida State started 3-6 under Norvell, 0-4 out the gate in year two and was 6-12 overall going into the Miami game—and then followed up with a season-opening win over LSU in year three and went 10-3 overall—yeah, we could say the Seminoles finally closed the talent gap... and their once left-for-dead quarterback Jordan Travis became a player.

So FSU closes the talent gap and that's enough to win by 42? Coaching.

2023: There are no moral victories, but if you can't see a one-year difference between losing by 42 points at home in year one under Mario, to going on the road against a No. FSU squad—the Canes with a true freshman quarterback (and a slew of newbies all over the field) while the Noles fielded a Heisman candidate at quarterback, with some solid portal talent all over that offense—down seven with a chance to tie the game late... you're purposely sh*tting on this thing.

Yeah you lead with "there are no moral victories" and go on to describe a moral victory. Glad Mario has made us as competitive as BC.

Just say you think Mario sucks and spare everyone the fluff.

Okay, Mario sucks

 

[skyman]

Please tell me a game on our schedule that would be a loss if we had good to great QB play with this exact roster.

See this is the coppin pleas I am talking about, Mario has been here and inherited a legit QB (Ithink everyone would say TVD was one of top young QBs before Mario) We have played 4 QBs under Mario leadership and they all look terrible. Any QB you bring in would probably look similar because they would be under Mario leadership/scheme/philosophy. You cant have Penix come and expect him to play same way he does @UW with DeBoer/Grubb scheme under Mario offense, you guys are insane

 

[crossover22[]_[]]

Please tell me a game on our schedule that would be a loss if we had good to great QB play with this exact roster.

 

[crossover22[]_[]]

See this is the coppin pleas I am talking about, Mario has been here and inherited a legit QB (Ithink everyone would say TVD was one of top young QBs before Mario) We have played 4 QBs under Mario leadership and they all look terrible. Any QB you bring in would probably look similar because they would be under Mario leadership/scheme/philosophy. You cant have Penix come and expect him to play same way he does @UW with DeBoer/Grubb scheme under Mario offense, you guys are insane

Look at Herbert under mario.


These people will never learn.

 

[gacaneaddict]

Look at Herbert under mario.


These people will never learn.

526 completions-832 attempts-63% completion-6,622 yards-61 TD's-14 INTs in his 2 seasons under Mario. He also rushed for 216 yards and 6 TD's. He got better and better. 67 total TD's in 2 seasons.

He was a top 10 overall pick. Mario ruined him right?

Would he have put up bigger #'s in a wide open air raid attack, sure, but Mario had a great OL, really good RB's, and a very pedestrian WR core.

 

[crossover22[]_[]]

526 completions-832 attempts-63% completion-6,622 yards-61 TD's-14 INTs in his 2 seasons under Mario. He also rushed for 216 yards and 6 TD's. He got better and better. 67 total TD's in 2 seasons.

He was a top 10 overall pick. Mario ruined him right?

Would he have put up bigger #'s in a wide open air raid attack, sure, but Mario had a great OL, really good RB's, and a very pedestrian WR core.

Haha yes mario held him back.

 

[crossover22[]_[]]

Restated what I said. Glad you understand.

So FSU closes the talent gap and that's enough to win by 42? Coaching.

Yeah you lead with "there are no moral victories" and go on to describe a moral victory. Glad Mario has made us as competitive as BC. View attachment 265863

Okay, Mario sucks

 

[gacaneaddict]

Haha yes mario held him back.

I guess Saban held back Tua also, he had 67 TD's and 9 INT'S over same 2 seasons, but had arguably the greatest WR room in college history with Devonta Smith, Jerry Juedy, Henry Ruggs, and Jaylan Waddle.

 

[BostonCanes47]

They don’t. If they did they would realize just how terrible of a job Mario has done here in year 2 compared to other programs. These posters are stuck in 2007 and still think it takes 5 years to not lose to games we should win.

Not agreeing or disagreeing. I think by the end of year 3 you have a better idea where you stand vs 2z

Heupel: 7/6, 11/2, and staring down the barrel of 8-4.

Kiffin: 5/5, 10/3, 8/5, probably 10/2 this year.

Mel tucker: 2/5, 11/2, 5/7, fired

Lincoln Riley: 11/3, 7/5 or 8/4

Dan lanning: 10/3 and currently 9/1

Norvell: 3/6, 5/7, 10/3 and currently 10-0.

Brian Kelly: 10/3, looking at 9/3 or 8/4.

Marcus freeman: 9/4, looking at 9-3.

If Mario can improve his Y1 win total by 2-4 wins which obviously he’s responsible for 5 (separate conversation) wins last year then that’s an improvement and tracks well given recent history.

 

[crossover22[]_[]]

I guess Saban held back Tua also, he had 67 TD's and 9 INT'S over same 2 seasons, but had arguably the greatest WR room in college history with Devonta Smith, Jerry Juedy, Henry Ruggs, and Jaylan Waddle.

Oh you consider the defense in the pac the same as the sec.

Interesting.