Anonymous former Cane on Coaches, Players

[Tad Footeball]

Kinda funny. Players have personally told me the opposite. And, for those who are skeptical, I stated as such on here before things got really bad. When most on here still wanted Golden and he was dubbed "The Don." I'm not saying it's 100% coaches. I'm saying that article reads like a PR piece.

Same here. I've heard all kinds of stuff from various players including "We don't fvck with dem crackas."

in the U part 2 when people laughed about Butch with Trick Daddy. The point was he tried to understands the kids culturally. He at least tried. I have heard
that's not something Golden has tried to do.

Actually relating to the kids beyond their recruiting is kinda overblown. Think of the guys considered the best coaches in college football today. Any of them seem like they're in tune with pop culture or today's music? Randy Shannon theoretically should have been able to relate to the kids down here more than anyone. I'm not saying being cognizant of what kids are into today can hurt but it's not essential to getting the respect of these kids or building a team. Showing them that you're at least a semi-competent corch trumps all.

 

[LuCane]

Kinda funny. Players have personally told me the opposite. And, for those who are skeptical, I stated as such on here before things got really bad. When most on here still wanted Golden and he was dubbed "The Don." I'm not saying it's 100% coaches. I'm saying that article reads like a PR piece.

Same here. I've heard all kinds of stuff from various players including "We don't fvck with dem crackas."

in the U part 2 when people laughed about Butch with Trick Daddy. The point was he tried to understands the kids culturally. He at least tried. I have heard
that's not something Golden has tried to do.

Actually relating to the kids beyond their recruiting is kinda overblown. Think of the guys considered the best coaches in college football today. Any of them seem like they're in tune with pop culture or today's music? Randy Shannon theoretically should have been able to relate to the kids down here more than anyone. I'm not saying being cognizant of what kids are into today can hurt but it's not essential to getting the respect of these kids or building a team. Showing them that you're at least a semi-competent corch trumps all.

Let me clarify that it doesn't really have much to do with becoming friends or understanding the kids' culture. It's actually quite straightforward:

Do coaches understand what motivates their players and the language it takes to help them get to their goals? When the coaches' goals aren't aligned with the players' goals, you get what we've seen.

From the players, here's a common theme: "Ball out, get money."
From what some players have told me or shown me (texts, etc.), here's a common coach theme: "Do the right thing, be a better man. Hoorah."

I'm not saying coaches shouldn't be helping our athletes grow into manhood and be better men. I'm saying they should get on the same page. If you help player X get to his goal, he's more likely to help you achieve your goal or at least listen (values, etc.). When I started questioning the pillar and binder stuff, it was because a team leader kinda rolled his eyes at it and said "it's all good, no big deal; but I just wanna ball and make $."

Like you mentioned in your last statement, it's pretty much all about creating trust through showing they can win (which makes the players look better, win more and potentially $$$).

 

[CaneSince4Ever]

i feel the team this year is more of team and we should see better results on that alone.

You either can put players in a position to ball, or you can't.

Bill Belichick:

"Bill Belichick just does things differently.

While giving the keynote address at a sports medicine seminar in Boston last week, Belichick explained how he builds championship teams, and his take on the oldest cliché in sports illustrated how he looks at things differently.

"People say all the time there's no 'I' in team,'' Belichick said, according to The Boston Herald. "That's true. But there's an 'I' in win. Within a team, strong individual performance determines whether or not we win. You can stand around all day and hold hands in the locker room chanting 'Team, team, team.' That's not going to do anything.

"Individual performance is critical to winning. Individual toughness is critical to winning. Every member of our team is a shareholder. Are they all exactly equal? Of course not.''

 

[NVA CANE]

Kinda funny. Players have personally told me the opposite. And, for those who are skeptical, I stated as such on here before things got really bad. When most on here still wanted Golden and he was dubbed "The Don." I'm not saying it's 100% coaches. I'm saying that article reads like a PR piece.

Same here. I've heard all kinds of stuff from various players including "We don't fvck with dem crackas."

in the U part 2 when people laughed about Butch with Trick Daddy. The point was he tried to understands the kids culturally. He at least tried. I have heard
that's not something Golden has tried to do.

Actually relating to the kids beyond their recruiting is kinda overblown. Think of the guys considered the best coaches in college football today. Any of them seem like they're in tune with pop culture or today's music? Randy Shannon theoretically should have been able to relate to the kids down here more than anyone. I'm not saying being cognizant of what kids are into today can hurt but it's not essential to getting the respect of these kids or building a team. Showing them that you're at least a semi-competent corch trumps all.

Let me clarify that it doesn't really have much to do with becoming friends or understanding the kids' culture. It's actually quite straightforward:

Do coaches understand what motivates their players and the language it takes to help them get to their goals? When the coaches' goals aren't aligned with the players' goals, you get what we've seen.

From the players, here's a common theme: "Ball out, get money."
From what some players have told me or shown me (texts, etc.), here's a common coach theme: "Do the right thing, be a better man. Hoorah."

I'm not saying coaches shouldn't be helping our athletes grow into manhood and be better men. I'm saying they should get on the same page. If you help player X get to his goal, he's more likely to help you achieve your goal or at least listen (values, etc.). When I started questioning the pillar and binder stuff, it was because a team leader kinda rolled his eyes at it and said "it's all good, no big deal; but I just wanna ball and make $."

Like you mentioned in your last statement, it's pretty much all about creating trust through showing they can win (which makes the players look better, win more and potentially $$$).

It must be really frustrating to deal with a coach like golden who is always trying to sell you but never delivering any tangible results. All those kids want to do is play football, win, have fun and look good doing it and the Head Coach and his buddies simply are not allowing that to happen.

 

[theibisrules]

Probably Duke Johnson said this....no one has any loyalty to Folden except for our pu$$y a$$ BOT! Heck I don't know if Duke said it or not, but it sure would be funny as heck though. Oh yeah, Fire Blake James as well.

 

[dhead23]

Still nobody is taking accountability from the coaches to the players. We have no leadership starting with the AD that doesn't demand a winning culture. Coaches saying "too many blown assignments" and bs like "it's starts with me" in post game presser and players whining about who's the qb or why don't we play more man or questioning the coach in team meetings. This is a total mess and unless a miracle happened over the off-season, the first sign of difficulty and this team will quit, especially if we lose to FSU and Clemson and basically eliminated from the coastal. This team is not built to handle pressure and rely on themselves and natural gifts in big moments of games. Too much thinking and over reliance on scheme that is flawed. We've never established a winning culture with this regime because they aren't building leaders or empowering the players during real games. I don't care about leadership during off-season conditioning drills. Change the freaking culture during the season and place focus on change and not process.........

 

[rsa coral gables]

Kinda funny. Players have personally told me the opposite. And, for those who are skeptical, I stated as such on here before things got really bad. When most on here still wanted Golden and he was dubbed "The Don." I'm not saying it's 100% coaches. I'm saying that article reads like a PR piece.

Same here. I've heard all kinds of stuff from various players including "We don't fvck with dem crackas."

in the U part 2 when people laughed about Butch with Trick Daddy. The point was he tried to understands the kids culturally. He at least tried. I have heard
that's not something Golden has tried to do.

Actually relating to the kids beyond their recruiting is kinda overblown. Think of the guys considered the best coaches in college football today. Any of them seem like they're in tune with pop culture or today's music? Randy Shannon theoretically should have been able to relate to the kids down here more than anyone. I'm not saying being cognizant of what kids are into today can hurt but it's not essential to getting the respect of these kids or building a team. Showing them that you're at least a semi-competent corch trumps all.

Let me clarify that it doesn't really have much to do with becoming friends or understanding the kids' culture. It's actually quite straightforward:

Do coaches understand what motivates their players and the language it takes to help them get to their goals? When the coaches' goals aren't aligned with the players' goals, you get what we've seen.

From the players, here's a common theme: "Ball out, get money."
From what some players have told me or shown me (texts, etc.), here's a common coach theme: "Do the right thing, be a better man. Hoorah."

I'm not saying coaches shouldn't be helping our athletes grow into manhood and be better men. I'm saying they should get on the same page. If you help player X get to his goal, he's more likely to help you achieve your goal or at least listen (values, etc.). When I started questioning the pillar and binder stuff, it was because a team leader kinda rolled his eyes at it and said "it's all good, no big deal; but I just wanna ball and make $."

Like you mentioned in your last statement, it's pretty much all about creating trust through showing they can win (which makes the players look better, win more and potentially $$$).

those two positions, do the right thing and be a better man v. ball out and get money, are not irreconcilable. these transactions occur every moment of every relationship. you do want i need you to do and i will help you do what you want to do, and vice versa. the breakdown comes when one side cannot fulfill its end of the bargain, which is to help the players ball out and get money.

 

[nycane]

do people forgot. last year at this time we were hearing this was a team with a different mentality. golden is a salesman. every year he has a new slogan.

 

[brock]

Former Hurricanes center Shane McDermott, now with the Dallas Cowboys, said Thursday on FM 104.3 The Ticket that the team’s underachieving came from its selfishness.
“Oh, I definitely think that we had some bad blood in our organization, that felt entitled,” said McDermott, a Palm Beach Central alum. “I think we had a lot of selfishness that we needed to get rid of.
“From what I hear from my little brother (Kc, a sophomore offensive tackle), the team is tighter than ever this year. I went down there last weekend and watched one of their offseason workouts. There was no bickering at each other. There was no fighting. It was a really tight-knit group. Everyone was working hard. It’s been the hardest I’ve seen them work in a while.”
McDermott on the defense: “It was an NFL defense. I understood what the coaches were trying to do. They were trying to say, hey, this is what you’re going to be playing in about four years. We’re just trying to get you there … If I was a defensive player, that would have been nice. … We’ve had former players come back to Miami and say hey, this is exactly what we run in the NFL … Players need to study more and understand the defense more … It’s interesting. Maybe dumbing down the defense would help. Who knows.”
- See more at: Notebook: More former Hurricanes speak out on 2014 problems | Canes Watch

 

[Ibis Wingz]

I disagree with anonymous ex-player. I say it is 72.3% players and 27.7% coaching issues.

 

[ACKCANE]

Former Hurricanes center Shane McDermott, now with the Dallas Cowboys, said Thursday on FM 104.3 The Ticket that the team’s underachieving came from its selfishness.
“Oh, I definitely think that we had some bad blood in our organization, that felt entitled,” said McDermott, a Palm Beach Central alum. “I think we had a lot of selfishness that we needed to get rid of.
“From what I hear from my little brother (Kc, a sophomore offensive tackle), the team is tighter than ever this year. I went down there last weekend and watched one of their offseason workouts. There was no bickering at each other. There was no fighting. It was a really tight-knit group. Everyone was working hard. It’s been the hardest I’ve seen them work in a while.”
McDermott on the defense: “It was an NFL defense. I understood what the coaches were trying to do. They were trying to say, hey, this is what you’re going to be playing in about four years. We’re just trying to get you there … If I was a defensive player, that would have been nice. … We’ve had former players come back to Miami and say hey, this is exactly what we run in the NFL … Players need to study more and understand the defense more … It’s interesting. Maybe dumbing down the defense would help. Who knows.”
- See more at: Notebook: More former Hurricanes speak out on 2014 problems | Canes Watch

soft

 

[Samson Doyo]

I disagree with anonymous ex-player. I say it is 72.3% players and 27.7% coaching issues.

Honest question...are you related to Al Golden?

Go Canes!

 

[gfer1988]

Former Hurricanes center Shane McDermott, now with the Dallas Cowboys, said Thursday on FM 104.3 The Ticket that the team’s underachieving came from its selfishness.
“Oh, I definitely think that we had some bad blood in our organization, that felt entitled,” said McDermott, a Palm Beach Central alum. “I think we had a lot of selfishness that we needed to get rid of.
“From what I hear from my little brother (Kc, a sophomore offensive tackle), the team is tighter than ever this year. I went down there last weekend and watched one of their offseason workouts. There was no bickering at each other. There was no fighting. It was a really tight-knit group. Everyone was working hard. It’s been the hardest I’ve seen them work in a while.”
McDermott on the defense: “It was an NFL defense. I understood what the coaches were trying to do. They were trying to say, hey, this is what you’re going to be playing in about four years. We’re just trying to get you there … If I was a defensive player, that would have been nice. … We’ve had former players come back to Miami and say hey, this is exactly what we run in the NFL … Players need to study more and understand the defense more … It’s interesting. Maybe dumbing down the defense would help. Who knows.”
- See more at: Notebook: More former Hurricanes speak out on 2014 problems | Canes Watch

yeah he gave a really incoherent player speak answer regarding the defense. He pretty much made it seem like the defense is designed to purely make players more draftable bc they will understand pro defenses but didn't address how it has not been effective up to this point. so our main focus is to make guys more draftable but not to actually win games??? not to mention many of our defensive guys haven't been drafted high or not at all so that stumps this bs argument. and if no one is fighting it almost sounds as if no one is pushing each other. that's if you believe things are that much different this year bc they got rid of the "cancers". never mind they said the same thing last year

 

[Coach Macho]

i feel the team this year is more of team and we should see better results on that alone.

You either can put players in a position to ball, or you can't.

Bill Belichick:

"Bill Belichick just does things differently.

While giving the keynote address at a sports medicine seminar in Boston last week, Belichick explained how he builds championship teams, and his take on the oldest cliché in sports illustrated how he looks at things differently.

"People say all the time there's no 'I' in team,'' Belichick said, according to The Boston Herald. "That's true. But there's an 'I' in win. Within a team, strong individual performance determines whether or not we win. You can stand around all day and hold hands in the locker room chanting 'Team, team, team.' That's not going to do anything.

"Individual performance is critical to winning. Individual toughness is critical to winning. Every member of our team is a shareholder. Are they all exactly equal? Of course not.''

I've been saying this for years. Cool to hear it from someone of his caliber.

 

[The Franchise]

Former Hurricanes center Shane McDermott, now with the Dallas Cowboys, said Thursday on FM 104.3 The Ticket that the team’s underachieving came from its selfishness.
“Oh, I definitely think that we had some bad blood in our organization, that felt entitled,” said McDermott, a Palm Beach Central alum. “I think we had a lot of selfishness that we needed to get rid of.
“From what I hear from my little brother (Kc, a sophomore offensive tackle), the team is tighter than ever this year. I went down there last weekend and watched one of their offseason workouts. There was no bickering at each other. There was no fighting. It was a really tight-knit group. Everyone was working hard. It’s been the hardest I’ve seen them work in a while.”
McDermott on the defense: “It was an NFL defense. I understood what the coaches were trying to do. They were trying to say, hey, this is what you’re going to be playing in about four years. We’re just trying to get you there … If I was a defensive player, that would have been nice. … We’ve had former players come back to Miami and say hey, this is exactly what we run in the NFL … Players need to study more and understand the defense more … It’s interesting. Maybe dumbing down the defense would help. Who knows.”
- See more at: Notebook: More former Hurricanes speak out on 2014 problems | Canes Watch

We've heard the same empty drivel every year Golden's been here. Every single year, players claim they got rid of the selfish guys from last year's team and are tighter than ever. It's proven to be a giant load of ****.

It's up to the HC to create a cohesive environment. The environment's bad because the players wise up the longer they're here and realize the HC is an empty windsack. Then, they have conflict with the rah rah freshman who think Golden is that guy and they're going to be the ones to turn it around. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

i feel the team this year is more of team and we should see better results on that alone.

You either can put players in a position to ball, or you can't.

Bill Belichick:

"Bill Belichick just does things differently.

While giving the keynote address at a sports medicine seminar in Boston last week, Belichick explained how he builds championship teams, and his take on the oldest cliché in sports illustrated how he looks at things differently.

"People say all the time there's no 'I' in team,'' Belichick said, according to The Boston Herald. "That's true. But there's an 'I' in win. Within a team, strong individual performance determines whether or not we win. You can stand around all day and hold hands in the locker room chanting 'Team, team, team.' That's not going to do anything.

"Individual performance is critical to winning. Individual toughness is critical to winning. Every member of our team is a shareholder. Are they all exactly equal? Of course not.''

Wow. I got kicked off my HS frosh team for saying this exact same thing in a team meeting. To the letter.

F**k you Corch Cloward!!!! Where the f**k are you now you f@***t!?

 

[DaU83]

My biggest gripe with the staff is that i feel we lack that killer instinct .... fsu is the perfect example.. we're putting it on them, we're being aggressive.. we're up a decent amount, and then we go into a shell.. and subsequently lose them game..

it was obvious after that L, that the team wasn't going to bounce back, which is partially on the coaches too...


either way, this year hinges a lot on Brad... if he balls out of control i think we can have a good year.. defense made progress last year, so that's at least promising. Al needs to coach this year like he's got nothing to lose... if he'd been doing that for a few seasons, we probably would have had much better seasons in the past.

 

[Coach Macho]

Was the first half of the FSU game a hint of what this team could/should look like?

 

[Cribby]

Was the first half of the FSU game a hint of what this team could/should look like?

Nah, everybody played like that against fsu in the first half. Even the Gaytors

 

[Torocane]

Former Hurricanes center Shane McDermott, now with the Dallas Cowboys, said Thursday on FM 104.3 The Ticket that the team’s underachieving came from its selfishness.
“Oh, I definitely think that we had some bad blood in our organization, that felt entitled,” said McDermott, a Palm Beach Central alum. “I think we had a lot of selfishness that we needed to get rid of.
“From what I hear from my little brother (Kc, a sophomore offensive tackle), the team is tighter than ever this year. I went down there last weekend and watched one of their offseason workouts. There was no bickering at each other. There was no fighting. It was a really tight-knit group. Everyone was working hard. It’s been the hardest I’ve seen them work in a while.”
McDermott on the defense: “It was an NFL defense. I understood what the coaches were trying to do. They were trying to say, hey, this is what you’re going to be playing in about four years. We’re just trying to get you there … If I was a defensive player, that would have been nice. … We’ve had former players come back to Miami and say hey, this is exactly what we run in the NFL … Players need to study more and understand the defense more … It’s interesting. Maybe dumbing down the defense would help. Who knows.”
- See more at: Notebook: More former Hurricanes speak out on 2014 problems | Canes Watch

So.................in the NFL they run a three-man line on fourth and goal at the two with the LB eight yards back? Interesting.