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JayCane20 said:
Would be all about starting a thread or transitioning this one to this topic.

May is basically right in the middle of the offseason. Seems like a fair time to start this type of talk.
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Zbrod95 said:
That’s not what I’m saying. I’m talking about people saying he was going 80. Both cars would’ve been obliterated at that speed head on.
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U keep saying this & u’re wrong. This is the Benz that was clocked at close to 100 mph going downhill, unaliving all her victims, ripping cars into two. Guess what? She’s alive and well (in prison).

Her car was mostly intact, even after she caused a fire bomb. So u cannot keep pontificating these false claims. Furthermore, no u’re not the only one w/ “certification” on this board to make these claims.
 

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Reyrey said:
First, y’all are both wrong. Second, if he was going 80. Slammed on the breaks and the collision occurred at exactly 50 mph, does it change the fact that going 80 caused the crash and the events that followed?
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Valid point. In the picture from the front, you’ll notice the Brembo brakes. He could have scrubbed considerable speed from original speed to impact.
 
JayCane20 said:
Im sure some, maybe even many have. I saw the aftermath of a local HS prom queen’s CRV that got rear ended by a Viper on prom night at 124MPH (calculated estimate shared in court) while sitting at a red light. It was a direct hit and wedged up underneath the CRV and ended in a ball of fire, so ya it was more damage and more gruesome pictures. But it was a solid hit vs the Durango probably missed a little bit from being a direct/solid crash with the other car moving and him probably braking/swerving.

Have there been any pictures of the passenger side of the Kia where it was actually struck? I haven’t seen it so probably a hard thing to assume. It’s literally sitting like 40 feet from the intersection it was turning into buried in a fence with kids ejected 60ft from where it would have been making the turn and impacted.

Im obviously guestimating those distances. Probably best case scenario is he was going 80, eventually saw the car and slammed the brakes and got it t down a little at impact.
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That could very well be the scenario but guys just saying 80 head on is ridiculous. People would’ve been in pieces. Cars cut in half etc.

Based on what I see via photos, I’m of the opinion he clipped it at 60-65, the Kia spun causing the ejections and came to a stop in that yard, the Durango stalled then dragged itself that 40 feet.

And yes…clipped. I don’t believe it was fully head on.
 
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U keep saying this & u’re wrong. This is the Benz that was clocked at close to 100 mph going downhill, unaliving all her victims, ripping cars into two. Guess what? She’s alive and well (in prison).

Her car was mostly intact, even after she caused a fire bomb. So u cannot keep pontificating these false claims. Furthermore, no u’re not the only one w/ “certification” on this board to make these claims.
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My guy…thats obliterated lmfao. Her engine block is angled for gods sake.

Stay out of this Rells. I like you bro. Don’t start an argument you’re not going to win especially when others that do what I do have said the same things.
 
The photos show a big hit. The dodge passengers survived probably because they were seatbelted and had the engine absorbing the impact forces. The car was clearly turning left and was struck flush on the passenger’s side. That would likely cause it to roll and eject all unbelted occupants. The legal question will be the dodge’s speed. Did it fool the left-turning driver or did she merely fail to use due care. Both vehicles have electronics that will tell the tale. It takes some time to download. I just can’t understand how young kids were not in a car seat and seatbelt.
 
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Zbrod95 said:
That could very well be the scenario but guys just saying 80 head on is ridiculous. People would’ve been in pieces. Cars cut in half etc.

Based on what I see via photos, I’m of the opinion he clipped it at 60-65, the Kia spun causing the ejections and came to a stop in that yard, the Durango stalled then dragged itself that 40 feet.

And yes…clipped. I don’t believe it was fully head on.
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Head on meaning front to front? No it was t boned. Likely tried to turn left and miss it and got the back side at an angle.

Head on meaning squared up the t-bone - same thing, guessing he missed a little bit from a direct hit.

The witness interview I was hearing about said it was 80mph about a 1/4 mile before the accident. Could have been going faster and then braked or even slowed down already or whatever.

The actual collision speed is pointless to try to guess with all of the factors. But you can make the logical assumption that doing 80+ immediately before the wreck was the cause of the poor judgement to turn vs wait.
 
kupakong said:
Without knowing all facts, a parent not strapping kids in and turning without right of way, seems pretty bad to me, irrespective of how fast the other car is coming. The parent I blame more than anyone.
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the driver made a huge error for sure, you got to make sure you avoid right away traffic turning left
it was a 78 year old grand parent though
 
JayCane20 said:
The witness says theres a radar flashing speed of oncoming traffic a quarter mile up the road. His driving history is not in his favor either.

The actual speed is the only thing left to confirm what everyone fears and is speculating.

Those forensic investigators can get in the ballpark pretty accurately. I’ve seen people mention the computer on the Durango and all that like a black box in a plane… never heard of or knew they did that for accidents.
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I agree regarding the forensics report and on-board computer data for sure - that's all that matters and they'll be able to get pretty accurate story of what happened. The side of the road radar a quarter mile away and some eye-witnesses aren't all that useful for actually assigning blame in this accident yet imo.
Like at what speed is it Reckless to the point its primarily your fault vs the person making the unprotected left? Like I said, I imagine on a 40mph divided road that wide, that you'd catch the majority of vehicles going closer to 50mph than 40 or under, but idk. So what actually matters is How much over the speed limit and whether he was being super unpredictable/aggressive maneuvering.

I'd probably say anything above maybe 65 is probably in the he's absolutely gotta be charged range. Under that and its more difficult to say
 
Zbrod95 said:
Yes lol. There was a change in force. It also matters how the car hit the other car. Did it slide left/Right? Did it lift the incoming vehicle? There’s a bunch of different things we would need consideration that you don’t have the experience to even think of.
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Huh. A. I worked in LE. Do tell me about experience. B. You said, look at the cars, no way he was going 80. A collision could have occurred at 30, or 40, or 60mph. You can’t deduct from the photos that vehicle wasn’t at one point going 80 mph which led to the accident..
 
JayCane20 said:
Head on meaning front to front? No it was t boned. Likely tried to turn left and miss it and got the back side at an angle.

Head on meaning squared up the t-bone - same thing, guessing he missed a little bit from a direct hit.

The witness interview I was hearing about said it was 80mph about a 1/4 mile before the accident. Could have been going faster and then braked or even slowed down already or whatever.

The actual collision speed is pointless to try to guess with all of the factors. But you can make the logical assumption that doing 80+ immediately before the wreck was the cause of the poor judgement to turn vs wait.
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Any front to side collision I’d consider a T-bone but Legally speaking the way you framed it. For the record “T-bone” would never make our incident report at least for my dept. I think it caught a good portion of the trunk to be exact.

I would agree on the rest. That argument is going to make or break this. I’d be curious about the reenactment the investigator portrays.
 
423Hurricane said:
This thread just reenforces my feelings about how much I despise speculation, conjecture and outright bull****.
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There’s not nearly as much speculation going on as some of you want to believe. The facts, the news reports, the witnesses, his history of speeding, and common sense are all imploring you to catch up
 
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CreativeCane said:
This isn’t aimed at you, but I get so tired of the “we all did stupid stuff as teens” argument as a reason to excuse some kids’ actions. There is dumb and foolish and there is reckless and dangerous. I never did **** that stupid and reckless that ever remotely put someone at risk, and I would bet most people here didn’t either.
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I’m with you.
 
dycane said:
I’m with you.
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Count me in. Especially if the reports are true and he has been in several accidents and speeding situations. After the first, if you can't adjust and respect the road then you are a piece of crap, and they need to boot him off the team asap.
 
SinisterCane said:
This is true however the insurance company can’t determine who’s at fault until they get a police report
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Car insurance companies determines who is at fault in a car accident. They can look at the damage done to the vehicles and determine at fault even without a police report.
 
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