Adarius Hayes

Status
Not open for further replies.
I was an idiot kid at that age, too, so I’m careful to preach here. But, man, something about giving these kids, with lots of entitlement and little accountability, bags of money and fast cars doesn’t seem wise in the grand scheme of things. There’s pain that hurts and pain that alters. This is tragic, preventable, and will forever alter myriad lives.
This isn’t aimed at you, but I get so tired of the “we all did stupid stuff as teens” argument as a reason to excuse some kids’ actions. There is dumb and foolish and there is reckless and dangerous. I never did **** that stupid and reckless that ever remotely put someone at risk, and I would bet most people here didn’t either.
 
Advertisement
If, and i emphasize IF, it was determined he was doing 80, or even really close, he should spend considerable time in prison. I have compassion for accidents. I’ve sped in cars, I’m sure we all have. I have zero compassion for a habitual and repetitive aggressive and reckless driver, who has been cited for it several times, not learning a hint of a lesson and killing 3 people, two of them children.

If he was going 80, holler at me in about 7-10 homie.
IF that's the case, 7-10 isn't enough time spent in jail, should be 15-20+
 
This 80 in a 40 **** needs to stop. None of you have seen aftermaths of that sort of impact to even make a statement like that.

If this was an 80 mph car there probably wouldn’t be any survivors.

3 people are dead. Two of them got ******* launched into someone’s front yard. The speed limit on the road is 40.

He wasn’t going 40.
 
Sure, however it's important to say Eye Witnesses aren't trained to accurately give speed estimates. All they could say is he was travelling fast. Not how fast. So smoking gun? I mean smoking gun in the that he likely was speeding? sure. Smoking gun in that he'd be found guilty in a court? idk bout that. And Speeding on a 40mph speed limit 6 lane road isn't exactly a surprise whatsoever. I'm sure every hour of every single day the majority of people are going closer to 50 than 40 there. Now people likely aren't going 60+, but again you trusting an eye witness to accurately estimate a car going 55mph vs 65mph with no other reference or ground truth around them?...

Also given the other driver was a 78 year old lady, I'm sure its possible her age played a big factor in misjudging the cross traffic speed, and possibly panicking in the moment instead of accelerating out of the way or something...
The witness says theres a radar flashing speed of oncoming traffic a quarter mile up the road. His driving history is not in his favor either.

The actual speed is the only thing left to confirm what everyone fears and is speculating.

Those forensic investigators can get in the ballpark pretty accurately. I’ve seen people mention the computer on the Durango and all that like a black box in a plane… never heard of or knew they did that for accidents.
 
Last edited:


Just to recap:

Some on this board have tried to defend:

Alex Figueroa
JaWand Blue
Avantae Williams
Deshawn Troutman

& now Adarius Hayes

The double standard around here is quite fascinating & it shows how out of touch some r.

As someone who’s been in insurance, risk management, & SIU for almost 20 yrs now, I knew from the damage of the accident, the ejection point, the lost of lives how fast he was going. Now, here are several issues that needs to be determined:

-If the other victim that was 78 was the driver, it’s most likely as their cognitive abilities declined, they were unable to gauge how fast the other car was coming, & by the time they realized, it was too late. This is y “mature drivers” rates r higher than seasoned drivers.

-However, the accident could’ve been avoided or at worst, created minimum bodily injury if the speed limit was followed. There’s a reason why they post speed limit in certain zoned areas, & there’s a reason that when these limits r not followed & an accident occurs, there’s a great chance of fatality that ensues.

-The other thing to consider r break marks. An SIU can see the skid marks to approximate at what juncture did the car making the left turn enter the zone, & if the other party tried to stop, but their speed/momentum was too great. It can also show if they, too, misjudged how fast they entered into the zone.

-The point of impact can determine what happened, as well. Where was the t-bone point of contact on the car:
Was it in the middle of the car, meaning they had already entered into the zone, inhibiting the right-away driver’s ability of passage?
Was it on the back quarter panel, showing they had legally entered, but speeding created the accident?”
Was it on the front panel indicating they turned last minute into the right-away driver’s passage?

Two things can be true at the same time; from a pure insurance standpoint, typically a person making a left turn in a non-signaled or non-signed intersection would be the one at-fault in a claim regardless of the speed of the other party; however, that does not mean the other party would be free of criminal charges like reckless driving which could allow the victims’ family to sue for negligence, civil suit.

Regardless it’s a sad situation all around, a situation I’m way too familiar w for the past 6 yrs.
I’ve had my frat brother’s son & his friend literally sliced in two by a youngsta doing 80+ in a residential neighborhood of 25 mph. (The driver survived)

I’ve had my homegirl’s daughter’s bff dismantled while legally entering into an intersection as the other party blew past the red light at 75 mph (Again, the other party survived).

That example I used earlier about a woman blowing throw a car at 100 mph? Yeah, she survived, too & I was two blocks away when the situation happened:

👇🏾


This is not passing judgment b/c **** & life happens vs. showing the lack of humanity some on this board show, the extent of justification they’ll use to defend the actions of a person just b/c they wear our team’s colors.

Go back to the Lacy thread & have a gander. Go back to the UGA threads & have a gander. Not one of ya’ll was trying to be a lawyer on their behalf making up all these illogical rationalizations.

Prayers for the victims, BUT whether he is found to be at fault or not, shame on Adarius for not learning his lessons from all the other incidents. He’s exhibit A for parents that have their children on their policies of y those rates spike exponentially b/c of **** like this.
 
Last edited:
Advertisement
This 80 in a 40 **** needs to stop. None of you have seen aftermaths of that sort of impact to even make a statement like that.

If this was an 80 mph car there probably wouldn’t be any survivors.
Im sure some, maybe even many have. I saw the aftermath of a local HS prom queen’s CRV that got rear ended by a Viper on prom night at 124MPH (calculated estimate shared in court) while sitting at a red light. It was a direct hit and wedged up underneath the CRV and ended in a ball of fire, so ya it was more damage and more gruesome pictures. But it was a solid hit vs the Durango probably missed a little bit from being a direct/solid crash with the other car moving and him probably braking/swerving.

Have there been any pictures of the passenger side of the Kia where it was actually struck? I haven’t seen it so probably a hard thing to assume. It’s literally sitting like 40 feet from the intersection it was turning into buried in a fence with kids ejected 60ft from where it would have been making the turn and impacted.

Im obviously guestimating those distances. Probably best case scenario is he was going 80, eventually saw the car and slammed the brakes and got it t down a little at impact.
 
We know what happened. A left turn in front of a speeding driver. We know speeding was involved due to the severity of the accident. We don't know how far over the speed limit he was going, but he for sure wasn't going 40 mph. Insurance companies would likely put negligence on both drivers. Was the speeding so severe that it outweighs the left turn? We don't know yet.
All we really knew last night was he was involved. Even with thread police update today there aren't many details. I prefer to wait for the facts.
 
im sure they'll pull traffic cam footage of him passing that radar sign
The witness says theirs a radar flashing speed of oncoming traffic a quarter mile up the road. His driving history is not in his favor either.

The actual speed is the only thing left to confirm what everyone fears and is speculating.

Those forensic investigators can get in the ballpark pretty accurately. I’ve seen people mention the computer on the Durango and all that like a black box in a plane… never heard of or knew they did that for accidents.
 
As a grandparent I,went to the FD to check the one I had in my car. They are a lot more intricate and probably safer than what we had when my 4 were born. I couldn’t live with myself if I had not done this. It is free. Honestly it should be a part of health insurance coverage and required before a baby leaves the hospital.
It was required at the hospital in Pennsylvania when my first child was born in 2012. I'm glad it was because those car seats can be complicated if you don't know what you're doing, and I didn't know what I was doing.
 
Advertisement
The level of intelligence or lack thereof is amazing. Like fr, amazing.
Speculation and discussion about a Miami football player’s car accident on a Miami football message board is not allowed. Especially if you’re not a lawyer who previously served as an EMT.
 
Just to recap:

Some on this board have tried to defend:

Alex Figueroa
JaWand Blue
Avantae Williams
Deshawn Troutman

& now Adarius Hayes

The double standard around here is quite fascinating & it shows how out of touch some r.

As someone who’s been in insurance, risk management, & SIU for almost 20 yrs now, I knew from the damage of the accident, the ejection point, the lost of lives how fast he was going. Now, here are several issues that needs to be determined:

-If the other victim that was 78 was the driver, it’s most likely as their cognitive abilities declined, they were unable to gauge how fast the other car was coming, & by the time they realized, it was too late. This is y “mature drivers” rates r higher than seasoned drivers.

-However, the accident could’ve been avoided or at worst, created minimum bodily injury if the speed limit was followed. There’s a reason why they post speed limit in certain zoned areas, & there’s a reason that when these limits r not followed & an accident occurs, there’s a great chance of fatality that ensues.

-The other thing to consider r break marks. An SIU can see the skid marks to approximate at what juncture did the car making the left turn enter the zone, & if the other party tried to stop, but their speed/momentum was too great. It can also show if they, too, misjudged how fast they entered into the zone.

-The point of impact can determine what happened, as well. Where was the t-bone point of contact on the car:
Was it in the middle of the car, meaning they had already entered into the zone, inhibiting the right-away driver’s ability of passage?
Was it on the back quarter panel, showing they had legally entered, but speeding created the accident?”
Was it on the front panel indicating they turned last minute into the right-away driver’s passage?

Two things can be true at the same time; from a pure insurance standpoint, typically a person making a left turn in a non-signaled or non-signed intersection would be the one at-fault in a claim regardless of the speed of the other party; however, that does not mean the other party would be free of criminal charges like reckless driving which could allow the victims’ family to sue for negligence, civil suit.

Regardless it’s a sad situation all around, a situation I’m way too familiar w for the past 6 yrs.
I’ve had my frat brother’s son & his friend literally sliced in two by a youngsta doing 80+ in a residential neighborhood of 25 mph. (The driver survived)

I’ve had my homegirl’s daughter’s bff dismantled while legally entering into an intersection as the other party blew past the red light at 75 mph (Again, the other party survived).

That example I used earlier about a woman blowing throw a car at 100 mph? Yeah, she survived, too & I was two blocks away when the situation happened:

👇🏾


This is not passing judgment b/c **** & life happens vs. showing the lack of humanity some on this board show, the extent of justification they’ll use to defend the actions of a person just b/c they wear our team’s colors.

Go back to the Lacy thread & have a gander. Go back to the UGA threads & have a gander. Not one of ya’ll was trying to be a lawyer on their behalf making up all these illogical rationalizations.

Prayers for the victims, BUT whether he is found to be at fault or not, shame on Adarius for not learning his lessons from all the other incidents. He’s exhibit A for parents that have their children on their policies of y those rates spike exponentially b/c of **** like this.


Jesus Christ it’s the offseason and people jump to defend players on their teams. I lived in Tally when Jameis raped that chick. Girls in her own sorority turned on her because their favorite player was targeted. Quit acting like it’s just our fanbase.

It’s like you **** gobbling Nike every ******* day of your life even tho they have 4 year old slaves in sweat shops sewing the patches on the shoes you drop thousands of dollars on. Save me the holier than thou bull****.
 
95% of the thread is people praying for the families and hoping Adarius isn’t guilty but ready to condemn him if he is and this dude is trying to drop some investigative piece of how Miami fans defend murderers. Top 3 gayest poRster on this site.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top