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For basketball I’m not too concerned.

The ACC as a football conference has always been middle of the pack. Clemson has been holding the conference down over the last few years, but just because the national champions come out of the conference doesn’t legitimize the conference. Watching ACC games year in and out for the last decade and a half (just based on eye test), I’ve noticed a significant difference in quality between the teams in the ACC and those out of the BIG 10 and SEC. Be that coaching, scheming, talent, bags, etc. It is what it is. Just have to worry about Miami at this point. they just need to get to the point where they’re the cream of the crop of the ACC, like Clemson. Then conference strength won’t matter.
 
Acane4ever said:
Miami and FSU were supposed to be the Elites of the ACC that would raise the level of football at other schools. Obviously, Miami has not lived up to that and FSU now joins them. If Miami can win 9-10+ games every year and dominate the ACC we should be able to pull top 10 recruiting classes every year. I dont think Miami needs to beg their way into the SEC but that may prove to be the right choice in the future.
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gators will never let us in, but that is where we should have sent to start with.
 
Gatorhater said:
gators will never let us in, but that is where we should have sent to start with.
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For the last SEC expansion, UF joined with UGa, Kentucky, and South Carolina to blackball UM, F$U, GaTech, Louisville, and Clemson, since 4 "no" votes were needed to block any invitation.

Thus, they went after Mizzou and Texas A&M, so that they could get more cable TV money. Those two schools have combined for exactly zero-point-zero SEC championships in football and/or basketball. Surprisingly, Mizzou (the school known more for hoops) has made it to the SEC-CG twice while Texas A&M has never made it, and Texas A&M (the school known more for football) has made it to the SEC hoops finals once while Mizzou has never made it.

F the SEC.
 
For_The_U said:
I'm just not grasping where you're going with this. I never guaranteed that the staff changes would be a success, I just pointed out that we absolutely did make some staff changes in response to you saying every one else is and we aren't. Yeah, we also made a ton of staff changes last year. And at the time, the hires (especially Enos) were widely praised by even non-Miami fans. However, the end results were an absolute disaster. This year's changes may prove to be a disaster as well. Or, they may prove to be successful. We won't know until, well, the games are played. But considering we canned Enos, hired Lashlee, canned Stubbs, are bringing in a new WR coach, and brought in Ed Reed as Chief of Staff, it's just weird that you'd be ranting about how everyone else is making staff changes and we aren't.
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So Stubbs was canned but a WR coach hasn't been hired in a month. Stubbs left man, he wasn't canned.
 
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My conspiracy is that Comcast is paying off people to blow it so there is no interest in the ACC Network.. I mean both football and basketball are historicly bad in the same year when we release a Network,, bs
 
ST26 said:
The ACC football has been a problem for a while. Clemson and FSU are the only teams that have been relevant. Also for basketball, the big east has been the best confrence the past two years. Especially the old big east.
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Get back to class dummy. You need to learn a few things.
 
All this defensiveness from the OP and he still hasn't addressed the fact that the Pac 12 and Big 12 are worse than the ACC in both football and basketball.
 
Canes1968 said:
Get back to class dummy. You need to learn a few things.
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Do you even watch college basketball? The old big east was insane. They were so much better than every conference. And it wasn’t close. And what other teams have been good in the acc (for football) in past 10 years besides Clemson and FSU? I’ll wait
 
Call me selfish but I don’t give a **** about conference perception, just Miami’s. I will say a win over FSU feels much better when they’re relevant.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
For the last SEC expansion, UF joined with UGa, Kentucky, and South Carolina to blackball UM, F$U, GaTech, Louisville, and Clemson, since 4 "no" votes were needed to block any invitation.

Thus, they went after Mizzou and Texas A&M, so that they could get more cable TV money. Those two schools have combined for exactly zero-point-zero SEC championships in football and/or basketball. Surprisingly, Mizzou (the school known more for hoops) has made it to the SEC-CG twice while Texas A&M has never made it, and Texas A&M (the school known more for football) has made it to the SEC hoops finals once while Mizzou has never made it.

F the SEC.
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No argument about any of that. They didn't want us when we were strong because of the *** kicking. Now they will not want to mess with So FL recruiting honey hole they have by putting us on equal footing. Miami would be about biggest TV market in SEC but the extra money isn't worth the risk.
 
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