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MIami/Clemson/FSU >> UNC > Duke > VTech > Syracuse > Louisville > NCSt > Pitt > GTech > UVA > Boston College > Wake Forest.

After Duke though (and thats 100% just about basketball) it gets a bit dicey as far as whether the SEC/BIG would want them.

Also, the B10 will definitely have their choice of West Coast teams over the SEC, and obviously Notre Dame would be their cherry on top. So you'd already be looking at them adding USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington, and Notre Dame to the B10 (and it's not like Stanford and Cal wouldn't be appealing either) which puts them at 19. And would it be surprising if the B10 then tried to add like TCU to get into Texas? Seems like the B10 has a plethora of options, and the SEC is going to be much more selective about only adding quality. Like I really couldn't see the SEC adding Anything below Duke on that list... and they'd only want Duke as a pairing with UNC imo.
There have been rumblings here of UNC looking to get out, and they got louder when USC/UCLA news broke. But they’re looking for the best basketball landing spot. So I’m assuming that means both UNC and Duke are talking to the BIG about jumping in.
 
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The ACC is done. Maybe not tomorrow, but its done.

We are in the part of this where the true Big League teams are moving into position, joining super conferences and then after we separate the Big Leagues from the minor leagues, there will be a new regional organization of the schools.
 
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One year ago I would agree, but now it sounds like UM is wanted by both.

I started looking into it, the SEC has way more success than the BIG yet they sre neck and neck in tv revenue. The BIG with getting LA has most of the largest media market except Texas Cities. Miami is one of the last along with ND nationwide pull. They aint going to the SEC. Im starting to wonder if the SEC can afford Miami to go to the BIG.
 
If the B1G wanted to get aggressive and out flank the SEC to the end game, they move to 24 now.

- Finish out the West and add Wash/Ore/Stanford
- Notre Dame
- pluck Miami, UNC, Virginia, and Clemson out of the ACC

For a heavier southeast penetration, could trade out Stanford for Georgia Tech.
 
If the B1G wanted to get aggressive and out flank the SEC to the end game, they move to 24 now.

- Finish out the West and add Wash/Ore/Stanford
- Notre Dame
- pluck Miami, UNC, Virginia, and Clemson out of the ACC

For a heavier southeast penetration, could trade out Stanford for Georgia Tech.
This would be glorious
 
Couple of thoughts...

Bottom Line: ACC is toast and has been outmanuevered by one of its own "Alliance" members. Remember when several of us said Alliance was a total joke and Trojan Horse?

- Neither Big10 nor SEC is 100% muderer's row
-- Hello Maryland, Rutgers, Nebraska, and Vanderbilt
-- Wake, Stanford, Duke, UVA, and BC all fit those molds to a degree
-- Can there be a one size fits all Conference for FB and BB?? I'm not sure without a lot of "yeah but they are good at this at least"
- Both SMU and TCU represent a "long play" for 5th largest media market...does NIL spring them back up eventually?
-- Weird dynamic going on now at SMU too...50% student body is from Cali and Southerners who traditionally used to go to SMU now go to TCU
- Will BiG 10 + SEC collude and say "ok, let both end up with 16/18/20 teams apiece"? Nature and schedulers abhor imbalances
-- Perhaps seats on life rafts are going to be taken quickly...FSU/Clemson/NC State/VT/Several Pac 12 teams not in driver's seat like they think they are
- Does Miami fit better with Big 10 or SEC? Our beloved Hurricanes kinda fit in both really wheras FSU, Clemson, UNC, NC St, etc fit realy only in SEC...BC only in Big 10...blah...blah...blah..
Duke, UVA, Pitt, GTech, and UNC are AAU members, so the B10 could heavily consider them along with Stanford, Oregon, Washington, and Cal who are also AAU members. See if the B10 adds all these schools they are considered the Athletic Ivy Conference. Thats not to say schools like Rutgers and like Northwestern still shouldn't be in there because they bring little to the table athletic wise...Same with Vanderbilt in the SEC - but they are AAU too. Virginia Tech and Miami could probably earn AAU membership as we both have larger Research budgets according to NSF and NIH than at least like 10% of the current AAU members - and much more than Notre Dame.

And from the SECs perspective I'm sure they'd love to add UNC too with UVA and Duke tagging along with them. FSU, Miami, and Clemson are the top dawgs of the ACC though, and would get stolen first.

I think BC, Syracuse, Louisville, Wake, NCSt, and Maybe GTech are in the no-mans-land area where the B10 and SEC may just not want to go to 24 or something, and therefore don't add them.. Especially since the B10 naturally fits a lot more schools than the SEC like Stanford, ND, Oregon, Washington, Cal, etc. That would bring them up to 21 along with USC and UCLA. Not too many spots would be left. I'd say the final 3 (Unless like a Rutgers is kicked out) the B10 would want is Duke, UNC, and UVA. The rest is offered to the SEC...
 
Duke, UVA, Pitt, GTech, and UNC are AAU members, so the B10 could heavily consider them along with Stanford, Oregon, Washington, and Cal who are also AAU members. See if the B10 adds all these schools they are considered the Athletic Ivy Conference. Thats not to say schools like Rutgers and like Northwestern still shouldn't be in there because they bring little to the table athletic wise...Same with Vanderbilt in the SEC - but they are AAU too. Virginia Tech and Miami could probably earn AAU membership as we both have larger Research budgets according to NSF and NIH than at least like 10% of the current AAU members - and much more than Notre Dame.

And from the SECs perspective I'm sure they'd love to add UNC too with UVA and Duke tagging along with them. FSU, Miami, and Clemson are the top dawgs of the ACC though, and would get stolen first.

I think BC, Syracuse, Louisville, Wake, NCSt, and Maybe GTech are in the no-mans-land area where the B10 and SEC may just not want to go to 24 or something, and therefore don't add them.. Especially since the B10 naturally fits a lot more schools than the SEC like Stanford, ND, Oregon, Washington, Cal, etc. That would bring them up to 21 along with USC and UCLA. Not too many spots would be left. I'd say the final 3 (Unless like a Rutgers is kicked out) the B10 would want is Duke, UNC, and UVA. The rest is offered to the SEC...
Does SEC kick put Vandy??
 
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At the end of the day, Big10 and SEC are basically splitting current D1P5 into D1P2
Yeah but theres like 66 P5+ND schools. 24 each would only be 48. 18 schools less. And it's not like the B10 and SEC don't have bottom feeders like every other conference that don't pull their weight.
 
Does SEC kick put Vandy??

In 2021, the SEC added to their bylaws….a 3/4 vote can kick out any member not pulling their weight.

So yeah, it’s possible. And I have heard that ESPN execs are pushing for something like this to get rid of deadweight teams
 
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