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Golden's a total bum. That's known. Let's call that a constant and push it aside. But holy chit @ Ice going 1-2 with 3 BTW kids we desperately wanted. Hard to see what value we're getting there if that's the outcome in a year we really need to land BTW kids. D'onofrio could've gone 1-2 as the lead recruiter with those 3.

Maybe Ice actually cares for the kids athletic future more than his job or the job of the man for whom he works? Maybe he isn't making a hard sell because deep down he knows it would be doing them an injustice to come and play for a loser?
 
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What are the chances Dexter is trolling Miami just to get them back for pulling his scholly

Crazy that we had the audacity to pull his scholly……..
A position of need and we dump him. This is after we took 4 commits in the first.. How do you dump a top 5 guy at worst at his position in the state at a position of need? Its not like we were cleaning up everywhere and had no room for him…..
 
Though we have a ton of talent at wr, it is underdeveloped and underutilized. I think the 2015 class of WR's like Chatman and Callaway are seeing this and its turning them off. Dorsett was unstoppable at the combines, and for moments was unstoppable in games during the year but he was sorely underused in many games. Coley was a beast in his first year though he started off slow. He starts off slow this year (with last year as an example) and the coaches go away from him and let him struggle. Herb where you at bro? Don't even need to go there. Even our 1000 yrd wr from two years ago, Allen Hurnes who is balling out in the pros didn't get drafted so that is more a testament to his inner strength. I think Chatman is being sold on how our offense dulled out in in quite a few games (ran the ball) and wr's disappeared. Plus we have a lot of WR's that either redshirted and or taking up space. TCU offense is explosive and their QB gets the ball all over the place. LSU QB's can't throw the ball for **** but the 5 catches they get a year gets them drafted ala Beckham. I believe that's what TCU and LSU are putting in his ear. Kaaya and the wr's gotta ball out this year and we will reap the benefits on offense. Same is true for TH3, Burns and Carter, our highly touted DB's. Ball out and DB's will see us as an option.
 
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Golden's a total bum. That's known. Let's call that a constant and push it aside. But holy chit @ Ice going 1-2 with 3 BTW kids we desperately wanted. Hard to see what value we're getting there if that's the outcome in a year we really need to land BTW kids. D'onofrio could've gone 1-2 as the lead recruiter with those 3.

Maybe Ice actually cares for the kids athletic future more than his job or the job of the man for whom he works? Maybe he isn't making a hard sell because deep down he knows it would be doing them an injustice to come and play for a loser?

And if that's the case, he should be fired immediately. For clarification purposes, I don't think that's the case.
 
Think this is our answer for the Redwine situation

Juco DB Treston Decoud @_TD7 says he just got a call from Louisville safeties coach Greg Brown asking what he would do if Cards offer.
12:21pm - 3 Feb 15
 
Golden's a total bum. That's known. Let's call that a constant and push it aside. But holy chit @ Ice going 1-2 with 3 BTW kids we desperately wanted. Hard to see what value we're getting there if that's the outcome in a year we really need to land BTW kids. D'onofrio could've gone 1-2 as the lead recruiter with those 3.

The rub lies in whether or not we desperately wanted davis and Calloway. I think the staff slow played them bc they had guys higher on their board.
 
Davante Davis wants to play CB and our coaches wanted him at safety. That is why for the most part he had no interest in us.
 
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Losing Callaway is devastating. Just as much as losing out on Ridley this year.


That UF visit must have went well. Miami was the favorite for a good amount of time.
It's a lost IF we don't get him but let's face it, rashawn scott, herb waters, Stacy coley, Malcolm lewis, tyre Brady, langham, cager, berrios, Chatman can get it done.... Next year in 2016 we will have a talented crop coming in as well....

Ah yes, the classic "we don't need him, guysm, we have studs coming in next year's class" line of thinking. Smh
 
Losing Callaway is devastating. Just as much as losing out on Ridley this year.


That UF visit must have went well. Miami was the favorite for a good amount of time.
It's a lost IF we don't get him but let's face it, rashawn scott, herb waters, Stacy coley, Malcolm lewis, tyre Brady, langham, cager, berrios, Chatman can get it done.... Next year in 2016 we will have a talented crop coming in as well....

Ah yes, the classic "we don't need him, guysm, we have studs coming in next year's class" line of thinking. Smh

Man, we've been hearing that for **** near ten years. smh
 
just a small correction. We do have a WR coach but for contract reasons he will be at his current job through signing day.
 
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just a small correction. We do have a WR coach but for contract reasons he will be at his current job through signing day.

Lol my bad big dog, my uncle is a big UF fan and he keeps saying you guys don't have one lol, what are you guys hearing about AC, and you had info on Dexter?
 
just a small correction. We do have a WR coach but for contract reasons he will be at his current job through signing day.

Lol my bad big dog, my uncle is a big UF fan and he keeps saying you guys don't have one lol, what are you guys hearing about AC, and you had info on Dexter?


well technically we don't, but mcelwain has an agreement with a guy but he is going to stay at his current gig through nsd. rumors it is the bama wr coach and other rumor it is the oregon wr coach. I don't know who it is, just mcelwain knows who it is.

i dont have much on dexter but i think he signs with miami.
 
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Golden's a total bum. That's known. Let's call that a constant and push it aside. But holy chit @ Ice going 1-2 with 3 BTW kids we desperately wanted. Hard to see what value we're getting there if that's the outcome in a year we really need to land BTW kids. D'onofrio could've gone 1-2 as the lead recruiter with those 3.

Swagger, havent been caught up on recruiting as much this year but I will say Ice has alot of influence at BTW and such but if it is the prospects I think you are talking about, werent they hired guns from homestead? Ice never coached them and probably doesnt know their family like that. He had no edge with those guys, Ice was basically any other coach selling a crap product with lame duck coach.
 
just a small correction. We do have a WR coach but for contract reasons he will be at his current job through signing day.

Lol my bad big dog, my uncle is a big UF fan and he keeps saying you guys don't have one lol, what are you guys hearing about AC, and you had info on Dexter?


well technically we don't, but mcelwain has an agreement with a guy but he is going to stay at his current gig through nsd. rumors it is the bama wr coach and other rumor it is the oregon wr coach. I don't know who it is, just mcelwain knows who it is.

i dont have much on dexter but i think he signs with miami.

What are you guys hearing about Callaway?
 
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