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4 First Round Picks this Upcoming Draft?

NC_Canes_11 said:
Didn’t the Minnesota guy get fired for drafting guys based on PFF?

GM’s are gonna see this and do the exact opposite of what it says.
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Lol doubtful that's true. All these teams subscribe to PFF ultimate.. it's just another tool
 
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Cribby said:
He’s a very good run defender . He graded out highly at both pass rush and run defense. He’s not some finesse pass rushing gimmick guy. He’s the total package. Violent hands with a great punch , unlimited move set and played an entire season at DT because he’s a team guy. On top of that an endless motor.

Yes he has an injury past and is older but guys like him doesn’t come along in the mid to late first round. Lastly he got double teamed much more than people think. There’s coaches out there that feared him as much or more than Bain coming off the edge. A lot of our pass rush wins was because AM was aligned inside causing havoc and also helping the edge guys get home. Albeit a blitz or rush. Bain and Mesidor both needed each other. It’s the equivalent of having two scorers / playmakers on the court in basketball versus one.
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I think people are quick to paint him in the “injured old so he must be a high motor guy” category

Then you see him drop that 3 yard drop step crossover like Tim Hardaway back in the day

People still have a hard time accepting how good he was and why
 
Damiencane86 said:
waynes world GIF

As a Fins fan seeing Bain mocked to the Jets
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there are those laughing but this is a legit nightmare scenario for us. 🤦‍♂️
 
TriStarCane said:
I follow the draft stuff pretty closely. There has been a hard shift of Mesidor and more and more mocks have him late first round. Mostly to contending teams that want max production during his rookie contract window. Several picks for the Pats
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It's the smarter (albeit colder) way to look at the draft.

If you're drafting in the second half of the 1st round, banking on a younger player to develop through 2 contracts isn't all it's cracked up to be. For a 25 year old, you get him during his peak athletic years on a relatively cheap contract (4 year rookie deal with a 5th year team option). If he underperforms, it's a max 4 year investment. If he overperforms, you have potentially 5 years of cheap productivity at a value position. If he's killing it after year 5 you let him hit free agency and enjoy a free compensatory draft pick while some other team overpays for his declining years. If he wants to restructure after year 3, you have the leverage (and can still potentially trade the player for assets).

Basically the opposite of what the dolfinas do, so you know it's the right play.
 
Calinative said:
Yes but age is still a very valid criticism of his draft prospects...
If he was 21 would he be solidified top 10 and closer to Bain? Where is the cutoff for age being a valid justification? Top 15? op 32? Top 50? ...
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I agree if he was 21 he’d be a top pick possibly top 10..I’m just saying it’s not impossible for him to go in the first round still despite his age. A Late pick by a contender is the most likely scenario should he go in the first. He won’t make it past the 2nd
 
Alex_Dynamix said:
I agree if he was 21 he’d be a top pick possibly top 10..I’m just saying it’s not impossible for him to go in the first round still despite his age. A Late pick by a contender is the most likely scenario should he go in the first. He won’t make it past the 2nd
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I agree
 
Alex_Dynamix said:
I’m Not saying he’s a lock but there’s definitely a chance somebody takes a chance on his sheer talent & being more of a plug and play ready right now player in the 1st. Maybe a team that’s in win now mode idk 🤷🏾‍♂️
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That’s who will take him. I would have to look at draft order to look but Cowboys at 20 is a great fit
 
I really don't understand how Scott isn't being talked about as the best db in the class - I can understand others that say downs is but you cant really have a better season then the ones Scott just had
 
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TouchMoney26 said:
I really don't understand how Scott isn't being talked about as the best db in the class - I can understand others that say downs is but you cant really have a better season then the ones Scott just had
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Because Downs has been consistently good for 3 years and while Scott played lights out he was in his 6th year, missed some time with injuries at Auburn and they don’t know if he can play corner at a high level which I think is bullsh*t.

Nickel is a premium position in today’s game and I think he has alot of value there.
 
AtlAtty said:
Man, looking at that list, UM must have cost some guys money after the playoffs.

Reese-don’t remember him making any plays
Styles-most memorable plays were being run over by Fletcher, and then fooled by Beck on the TD pass to Fletcher
Love-absolutely a non factor
Concepcion-was never the same after the hit by Pruitt
Tate-don’t expect him to make a catch over the middle
Howell-WHO?
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I love the sentiment but can we be honest?

the Canes' performance against these players didn't cost anyone a single dime

Reese is going top 5 whether you like it or not (his lack of productioin would scare me)
Styles now might get drafted in the top 5
Love (though I personally think is overrated) is a surefire top 10 pick
Concepcion and Howell are first rounders
Tate (I think overrated) is going top-15
 
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