4 First Round Picks this Upcoming Draft?

[JHallCanes]

I follow the draft stuff pretty closely. There has been a hard shift of Mesidor and more and more mocks have him late first round. Mostly to contending teams that want max production during his rookie contract window. Several picks for the Pats

Yep this is exactly why it’s highly likely he goes

If you’re missing a piece that can rush the passer he’s an instant impact

No brainer really

 

[TriStarCane]

Yep this is exactly why it’s highly likely he goes

If you’re missing a piece that can rush the passer he’s an instant impact

No brainer really

All the analysis is that he is ready to go now and is the most technically advanced pass rusher in the draft. If he were 22 he’d be a top 10 pick because the think he will be 6’3 270 with bend and get off. I think he is on the radar anywhere from 16 on unless he just falls apart in testing

 

[TheATLCane]

This is gonna start being a regular thing.

Who do you see as potential first round next year?

- Mensah
- Wilson
- Moten?

 

[Cribby]

Curious on your thoughts here.

I'm a Canadian (lived in Ottawa for 7 years) and a coach up here so kept my eye on him.

For a second round DE pick, their has to be limitations here. He not particular strong against the run (7/10) and if he's a quick end, he's strength is pass rusher, which helped with movement along the line and never getting doubled and chipped due to Bain.

Mind you all other first round mocked Edge players (outside of Bain) did not impress more then Mesidor, so I'm a little turned around.

Are we seeing a weaker End class or are my expectations too high for a player?
I'd draft Mesidor above Parker, and Howell

Both Mesidor and Bain have the three step edge bend (clearly a coaching thing) that you don't see typicla NCAA ends do.

He plays super well when he's fresh to somewhat fresh, but as soon as its a 7-8 plays series, the guys is bad on the run cause he's gassed.

He’s a very good run defender . He graded out highly at both pass rush and run defense. He’s not some finesse pass rushing gimmick guy. He’s the total package. Violent hands with a great punch , unlimited move set and played an entire season at DT because he’s a team guy. On top of that an endless motor.

Yes he has an injury past and is older but guys like him doesn’t come along in the mid to late first round. Lastly he got double teamed much more than people think. There’s coaches out there that feared him as much or more than Bain coming off the edge. A lot of our pass rush wins was because AM was aligned inside causing havoc and also helping the edge guys get home. Albeit a blitz or rush. Bain and Mesidor both needed each other. It’s the equivalent of having two scorers / playmakers on the court in basketball versus one.

 

[Cribby]

I follow the draft stuff pretty closely. There has been a hard shift of Mesidor and more and more mocks have him late first round. Mostly to contending teams that want max production during his rookie contract window. Several picks for the Pats

He’s like getting a free agent on a cheaper deal that’s plug in play. That’s how I view him. A guy that’ll walk in and instantly causes havoc and you only spent a top 20-25 pick for that money? A playoff team would be hitting gold. This isn’t complicated even though these twits make it that way.

 

[lfoliva9988]

Dawg, if Mario has FOUR first round picks to tout on the trail…

 

[Cribby]

Scott is the one I have some doubts on as a first rounder. His best moments are at nickel and I’m not sure you use a pick there. He also struggled when he played outside. His speed numbers will be huge in him going in the first round.

 

[lfoliva9988]

as much as I'd love 4 guys going in round 1, I just don't see it.

IMO, I think we see
CiCi and Bain in the 1st round
Scott and Mesidor in the 2nd round
Bell in the 3rd round
Beck in the 3-5 range

 

[edcanes]

 

[JHallCanes]

All the analysis is that he is ready to go now and is the most technically advanced pass rusher in the draft. If he were 22 he’d be a top 10 pick because the think he will be 6’3 270 with bend and get off. I think he is on the radar anywhere from 16 on unless he just falls apart in testing

NFL draft has always been one of the more embarrassing usages of resources to yield results

Like da **** are these guys actually doing for months and they still make these picks?

That said, this one is a layup let’s see if they mess it up

 

[Cribby]

NFL draft has always been one of the more embarrassing usages of resources to yield results

Like da **** are these guys actually doing for months and they still make these picks?

That said, this one is a layup let’s see if they mess it up

They make it complicated. Football evaluating for the next level is simple. Take guys with physical attributes that produce at a high level. Projecting and potential is always what does these guys in. Reaching for a qb just because you need one is the ultimate fools gold.

 

[JHallCanes]

They make it complicated. Football evaluating for the next level simple. Take guys with physical attributes that produce at a high level. Projecting and potential is always what does these guys in. Reaching for a qb just because you need one is the ultimate fools gold.

They’ll be in interviews like “what if you woke up tomorrow with the ability to understand squirrels?”

And then trade up for Trey Lance

 

[Arehel]

He’s a very good run defender . He graded out highly at both pass rush and run defense. He’s not some finesse pass rushing gimmick guy. He’s the total package. Violent hands with a great punch , unlimited move set and played an entire season at DT because he’s a team guy. On top of that an endless motor.

Yes he has an injury past and is older but guys like him doesn’t come along in the mid to late first round. Lastly he got double teamed much more than people think. There’s coaches out there that feared him as much or more than Bain coming off the edge. A lot of our pass rush wins was because AM was aligned inside causing havoc and also helping the edge guys get home. Albeit a blitz or rush. Bain and Mesidor both needed each other. It’s the equivalent of having two scorers / playmakers on the court in basketball versus one.

Really? Hmm, can't say I hate that.

It's not far off form what I saw out there, I never thought he was just a PR specialist and that's it, our edge run defenders were the main reason why we had such a good run D (plus downhill laneway tackles).

I just don't see how guys that are put above him, actually get drafted above him. Personally I think he'll probably get a GM or HC in the NFL fired, cause they chose Parker or Arvell Reese instead.

Everyone watchin CFB said he was a top 3 end in the league, but then gets drafted 5-7. Weird stuff.

 

[Badbart43]

Would love to see the titans get cici or Bain, they can be my new favorite team till the fins finally get their **** together

I pull for them because of Cam...the Fins are doomed till Ross is out of the picture

 

[TriStarCane]

They’ll be in interviews like “what if you woke up tomorrow with the ability to understand squirrels?”

And then trade up for Trey Lance

Most of these guys are dorks. Did you see the report on the Minnesota GM using PFF for draft grades? I will do the job for half the money. Good Lord. It’s mind melting ****

 

[Calinative]

Not drafting Mesidor in the first round because your concerned about his age is why a lot of these franchises continue to be dog**** year after year

Not really, it’s a valid concern. A) he will be 30 at the end of his rookie deal, so then what.. B) it’s indicates a lack of further further ceiling/potential to reach.

 

[Alex_Dynamix]

Mesidor is a? Just bc his age and injury history for the league. If I was a GM on a contending team I take him R1 if I need a pass rusher don’t care about the possibility of a second contract. Need him to be worth the 1st contract lol

I’m Not saying he’s a lock but there’s definitely a chance somebody takes a chance on his sheer talent & being more of a plug and play ready right now player in the 1st. Maybe a team that’s in win now mode idk

 

[Alex_Dynamix]

Not really, it’s a valid concern. A) he will be 30 at the end of his rookie deal, so then what.. B) it’s indicates a lack of further further ceiling/potential to reach.

A contending team might reach for an older guy who’s uber talented/plug and play/more finished product & ready to contribute right now.

 

[Calinative]

A contending team might reach for an older guy who’s uber talented/plug and play/more finished product & ready to contribute right now.

Yes but age is still a very valid criticism of his draft prospects...
If he was 21 would he be solidified top 10 and closer to Bain? Where is the cutoff for age being a valid justification? Top 15? op 32? Top 50? ...

 

[NC_Canes_11]

Didn’t the Minnesota guy get fired for drafting guys based on PFF?

GM’s are gonna see this and do the exact opposite of what it says.