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30 carries for Knighton. 4 for Franklin and Brown combined

streetja said:
Idk what's worse: that stat or Lashlee's playbook consisting of one running play that makes 3rd and shorts nearly impossible to convert.

Knighton is a good thing, let's not run him into the ground just because you're a lazy fvck and can't recognize the talent -- and change of pace back -- that is Thad Franklin. Who's just waiting to punish tired defenses in the third and fourth quarter and is actually ideal for the one running play you've got, Lashlee you asshat.

Also, nothing ****es me off more than college OCs making one RB carry the entire load as if they're getting paid for it. The shelf life of RBs are short enough as it is, don't put so many miles on him before he even gets paid to take the punishment he's receiving.

For as many points as we put up Lashlee sure does hold his offense back with his lack of common sense and it's just begging to cost us big some point soon.
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Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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HOLISTIC CANE said:
That's not what I was implying you ******* clown! I never mentioned his name! I said "backs" plural you ****** idiot!
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“The other backs.” There’s only two and you used the plural. STFU I’m done with you. Everyone pretends to know why some play and others don’t. You’re obviously struggling with the English language. Goodnight fool
 
If Lashlee is OC next year, I'd hate to see Chaney getting the ball 30 times/game while Knighton get 4 touches. There are two freshmen RBs behind Knighton, so I'm not sure if that makes a difference, but if we have the athletes to create mismatches, why sit them on the bench?

I forsee an issue, especially with this staff, having a 'bellcow' next year, when we real talent in our RB room.
 
Boarcane said:
“The other backs.” There’s only two and you used the plural. STFU I’m done with you. Everyone pretends to know why some play and others don’t. You’re obviously struggling with the English language. Goodnight fool
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You're ignorant as fck clown.
 
I know that Harris and DC getting hurt was huge and I love Knightons toughness and heart regardless of his size but you ha e to give Brown and Breshard Smith some carries. I saw in the 4th Knightons just looked gassed and it cant worj anymore. Im ok with Thad on the bench if he hasn't earned PT but we cant have 1 single workhorse and expect hin to survive
 
SFbayCane said:
Again, our staff played one running back on every single play for six consecutive quarters. Every...single...play...for a game and half. Oh by the way, that running back ended up getting a season-ending injury during the next game. (insert correlation not equalling causation retort here --> X )

The roster management issue is a valid topic of discussion here, especially the overuse of a running back. No need to bash OP for bringing it up.
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I think we all agree Knighton getting 30+ carries in a game isn't ideal, but it's sort of the hand we've been dealt with Cam/Chaney injuries.

But I think you need to let go of this "one running back on every single play for six consecutive quarters" narrative.

Yes - Cam played every snap vs App St & Michigan St. But he only had 29 carries in those 2 games. That's hardly being overworked.

No - Cam didn't get hurt in the next game. Or the game after that. In fact the next 2 games were his best of the season (albeit against weak defenses), so he wasn't showing any sign of wear and tear. And he only had 24 carries in those 2 games.

3 Games after the "all snaps for 6 quarters" - that's when Cam got hurt. So I don't think the correlation point you're making applies here.

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Cam never got more than 18 carries in one game since Lashlee got here - so this "overuse of 1 RB" discussion is new territory.
 
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When are people going to come to the blatant realization that Rhett Lashlee is hot garbage Patrick Nix repackaged.

Our kids literally are tasked with defeating both their opponents and their own coaching staph. Every single game.
 
bshaw28 said:
I think we all agree Knighton getting 30+ carries in a game isn't ideal, but it's sort of the hand we've been dealt with Cam/Chaney injuries.

But I think you need to let go of this "one running back on every single play for six consecutive quarters" narrative.

Yes - Cam played every snap vs App St & Michigan St. But he only had 29 carries in those 2 games. That's hardly being overworked.

No - Cam didn't get hurt in the next game. Or the game after that. In fact the next 2 games were his best of the season (albeit against weak defenses), so he wasn't showing any sign of wear and tear. And he only had 24 carries in those 2 games.

3 Games after the "all snaps for 6 quarters" - that's when Cam got hurt. So I don't think the correlation point you're making applies here.

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Cam never got more than 18 carries in one game since Lashlee got here - so this "overuse of 1 RB" discussion is new territory.
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I stand corrected on the timeframe of the injury. I still stand by the opinion that it was fraudulent of the coaching staff to play Cam every play for six consecutive quarters. Number of carries does not negate that incompetent move. He played every single snap of a noon game in September. The coaches had a full week after App State to get Brown and/or Franklin up to speed in order to contribute but chose not to.
 
SFbayCane said:
I stand corrected on the timeframe of the injury. I still stand by the opinion that it was fraudulent of the coaching staff to play Cam every play for six consecutive quarters. Number of carries does not negate that incompetent move. He played every single snap of a noon game in September. The coaches had a full week after App State to get Brown and/or Franklin up to speed in order to contribute but chose not to.
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I think your point is definitely valid, but I just don't think it's that cut and dry. If the coaches don't have confidence to play Brown/Franklin vs a bad GT team in November when they don't have Cam/Chaney, then it makes sense they didn't use them vs a Top 15 Mich St team in September when they didn't have Chaney/Knighton.

I'm not excusing the coaches - but I am acknowledging that they're in a tough spot here. I don't see the RB rotation as "incompetent".

What I've seen:

Brown - he ain't it. He just looks like a very vanilla straight forward runner. Still just a Freshman, so there's time to improve.
Franklin - I'd expect to see him more in the coming weeks, but I don't know if he's it either. A couple carries late in the CCSU game where we're already up 50 isn't enough to make a judgement IMO. I'd say he's probably no worse than Brown, but I just don't know how much better he'd be. Considering what I've seen from Brown, I'd really like to see more Franklin. I think there's more potential with Franklin.

So Knighton is definitely getting overused, but I don't know what the answer here is. Is it giving more carries to Brown/Franklin who might be obviously worse, just to rest Knighton? Is it using WR's to get carries? Is it just calling more pass plays? Is it some combo of all 3? I don't think it's an easy problem to solve, and when Manny/Lashlee are fighting for their coaching lives a bit, it's hard not to lean heavily on one of your more talented players.
 
Savage Cane said:
When are people going to come to the blatant realization that Rhett Lashlee is hot garbage Patrick Nix repackaged.

Our kids literally are tasked with defeating both their opponents and their own coaching staph. Every single game.
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I get what you are saying and dont want to defend Rhett simplistic offense but to compare him to ******* pat nix, you either have to have a short memory or just being obtuse.. To play a little devils advocate. Nix offense was bottom of barrel stat wise, with Rhett he has turned our offense around last couple years and atleast made it respectable and sometimes explosive. We put up 30+ most games now, if we had better run game or consistency it could be 40+.. Even with all injuries the offense is main reason we are winning games. Rhett has lost #1 and #3 QB, #1 and #2 RB, Guard and Center to injury and still getting good production no matter how we feel about those players.. With first time playing redshirt freshman offense is still moving ball and getting points

Nix was a joke and only got the job because Randy couldnt think of anyone else after Dirk Koetter opted to go to jags instead.. Randy had short list and said he liked nox because he gave his simple *** man 2 defense trouble.. lol

Lashlee really seems to suck at situational ball tho, my gawd
 
Boarcane said:
As someone who alludes to knowing… you should also know that Thad got a raw deal for more than one reason. Outside of being lied to, UNDERVALUED and left to die year one, he certainly hasn’t worked for a staff that has done what’s expected of them either. Would you like to do this in public. I for one can remember the “why” he was a take and that was the biggest most selfish load of **** I’ve “almost” ever seen here
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Its always someone else's fault. Just STFU, put your head down, and work.
 
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