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30 carries for Knighton. 4 for Franklin and Brown combined

NorthEastCane said:
Duke was built much stronger and I don't believe it was his freshman year.

I'm not saying Knighton should be out any extended period of time. I'm saying you have to pace him so he finished the season on the field. What happens to the offense if we were to lose him?
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Bruh Duke was running at 200 tops..4 is probably 190 tops..it’s 10 **** pound lol..if we were to lose him..it’d be the same as giving 10-15 of his reps to guys who have no business taking his reps. 4 will be fine
 
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Number1CanesFan said:
I actually think some guys are getting black balled.

Let's not get it twisted. There was very little rotation until it was Manny's only out to play other modtly younger players to save his job. Not with wins, but that we have a bunch of young players playing, so give me a pass.

Diaz's playing philosophy is part of reason he's going to be fired. He literally admitted that guys weren't playing well and others would start to get snaps or more of them. That was 4-5 weeks into the season. That has to be the philosophy from day 1. It's the next man up. Keep substituting until someone gets the job done. You don't keep putting the same guys out there. Make them sit at least a few snaps before you circle back around to them. It's like a basketball coach who calls timeout and puts in the backups and walk-ons to send a message to his starters that their play is unacceptable. I've seen coach K at Duke do this several times over the years as well as others.

Diaz allos garbage play then blows smoke up our asses telling us how well so and so played when we saw it for ourselves that they were terrible and the PFF numbers back it up.
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Lol..so you think tac is getting black balled?? Is that the case with the other hundreds of RS fresh on mediocre teams in which they’re position group isn’t playing well..are they not playing because they’re being black balled..or is this a Miami issue..simple answer, tac is a confident kid who thinks he can play better..and I have 0 problems with that..but once upon a time Willis thought he was better than Clinton when he was a TF
 
305to954 said:
Bruh Duke was running at 200 tops..4 is probably 190 tops..it’s 10 **** pound lol..if we were to lose him..it’d be the same as giving 10-15 of his reps to guys who have no business taking his reps. 4 will be fine
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It's not always about weight, it's about build. Duke was much more stockier and stronger than Knighton is at this point in his career.

And if we lose him, we lose the threat of a running attack. For a team that solely dependent of a freshman QB (yes he's still a freshman) for any chance to win, that's not how I'd want to burden the team (no matter how he's performed).
 
305to954 said:
4 will be fine
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When i watch the games, i get the impression he will most certainly not be fine. In fact, i wont be surprised if he is already not fine. Forget the carries for a second. Just look at ROOSTER. Just look at him. He looked like he was on his last leg. Like he was saved by the bell.
 
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No rational person would argue that coaches are playing the kids who they DON'T believe put the team in the best position to win. What many posters believe, myself included, is that the coaches aren't right about who puts the team in the best position to win.

The evidence is pretty compelling that they consistently play the kid with more experience over the kid with less, regardless of the potential differential. Clark is better than Gaynor, JW and Kinchens are better than Hall and Bolden, K Smith and Restrepo are better than Wiggins and Pope, and most likely were last year, as well, but we rarely saw them. Taylor needed to be worked in earlier, as did Chantz. As do Chase Smith, Cave and especially Arroyo. The thing all these guys have in common is they sat / are sitting too long because the guy in front of them had more experience and the coaches trusted that more than testing their potential. Was that good judgment?

Thad Franklin may have come in overweight, out of shape, with poor blocking fundamentals. I love what Hickson has done, don't get me wrong. But it's on him to deal with that situation both pre-matriculation and once the kid is on campus. What is the program paying him and Feeley to do if not find and develop the best players? And it's definitely on him and Lashlee to figure out how to work one of our most gifted young talents into an offense that desperately needs a short-yardage back. Franklin naturally is that guy. If he's not seeing those snaps, it's the coaches fault IMO.
 
streetja said:
Idk what's worse: that stat or Lashlee's playbook consisting of one running play that makes 3rd and shorts nearly impossible to convert.

Knighton is a good thing, let's not run him into the ground just because you're a lazy fvck and can't recognize the talent -- and change of pace back -- that is Thad Franklin. Who's just waiting to punish tired defenses in the third and fourth quarter and is actually ideal for the one running play you've got, Lashlee you asshat.

Also, nothing ****es me off more than college OCs making one RB carry the entire load as if they're getting paid for it. The shelf life of RBs are short enough as it is, don't put so many miles on him before he even gets paid to take the punishment he's receiving.

For as many points as we put up Lashlee sure does hold his offense back with his lack of common sense and it's just begging to cost us big some point soon.
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When people are desperate to keep their jobs, they will do anything, especially the college coaches with the free labor (see King knee & shoulder, Bolden, etc).
 
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grover said:
No rational person would argue that coaches are playing the kids who they DON'T believe put the team in the best position to win. What many posters believe, myself included, is that the coaches aren't right about who puts the team in the best position to win.

The evidence is pretty compelling that they consistently play the kid with more experience over the kid with less, regardless of the potential differential. Clark is better than Gaynor, JW and Kinchens are better than Hall and Bolden, K Smith and Restrepo are better than Wiggins and Pope, and most likely were last year, as well, but we rarely saw them. Taylor needed to be worked in earlier, as did Chantz. As do Chase Smith, Cave and especially Arroyo. The thing all these guys have in common is they sat / are sitting too long because the guy in front of them had more experience and the coaches trusted that more than testing their potential. Was that good judgment?

Thad Franklin may have come in overweight, out of shape, with poor blocking fundamentals. I love what Hickson has done, don't get me wrong. But it's on him to deal with that situation both pre-matriculation and once the kid is on campus. What is the program paying him and Feeley to do if not find and develop the best players? And it's definitely on him and Lashlee to figure out how to work one of our most gifted young talents into an offense that desperately needs a short-yardage back. Franklin naturally is that guy. If he's not seeing those snaps, it's the coaches fault IMO.
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Facts. Said it all off-season. If manny sticks with the old guys we’d suck. We put the young guys in and we start balling. Even TVD over King was questionable with 9 months to heal an ACL.

Kirby said you can’t outcoach recruiting and Manny is letting his coaching hold back his recruiting. It’s gonna cost him his job.
 
OilCaneBoy said:
Need to spread the carries a bit. #4 ain't exactly built like Derrick Henry
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He got 162 yards, the other 2 got 5 yards. He out performed what we had at RB the first part of the year since he became eligible. We've needed him badly. Those other carries should've been a QB sneak, TVD is a big kid and capable to make 1 yard most of the time.
 
In his post game presser yesterday, Knighton was asked how he felt after all those carries. He said (paraphrasing here) he felt great, his body felt good, he was willing and able to take on whatever he was asked to do, and liked getting all the touches. TIFWIW.

ANY player is going to say this. Even if they walk in on crutches and are wrapped up like a mummy. Lashlee’s play calling has been hot and cold. Seems to me he could come up with plays that would reduce the load on Rooster, BSmiff sweeps and off tackle runs, end arounds, at least half dozen plays for Brown/Thad.
 
Bell cow. Circumstances. Also, are the other backs doing the things on and off the field that are expecting of them. It isn't always as simple as some fans think it is.
 
HOLISTIC CANE said:
Bell cow. Circumstances. Also, are the other backs doing the things on and off the field that are expecting of them. It isn't always as simple as some fans think it is.
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As someone who alludes to knowing… you should also know that Thad got a raw deal for more than one reason. Outside of being lied to, UNDERVALUED and left to die year one, he certainly hasn’t worked for a staff that has done what’s expected of them either. Would you like to do this in public. I for one can remember the “why” he was a take and that was the biggest most selfish load of **** I’ve “almost” ever seen here
 
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Boarcane said:
As someone who alludes to knowing… you should also know that Thad got a raw deal for more than one reason. Outside of being lied to, UNDERVALUED and left to die year one, he certainly hasn’t worked for a staff that has done what’s expected of them either. Would you like to do this in public. I for one can remember the “why” he was a take and that was the biggest most selfish load of **** I’ve “almost” ever seen here
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**** do you mean by "alludes to knowing"!??? I was referring to the coaches wanting a bell cow back this year and not a running back by committee! Fans don't always know the "Circumstances" as to why a player is or isn't playing! Better ****** check yourself before you come at fool!
 
HOLISTIC CANE said:
**** do you mean by "alludes to knowing"!??? I was referring to the coaches wanting a bell cow back this year and not a running back by committee! Fans don't always know the "Circumstances" as to why a player is or isn't playing! Better ****** check yourself before you come at fool!
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Thad not doing “things on and off the field”. It’s what you implied fool, not me.
 
SFbayCane said:
Keep in mind my sense of humor is a bit of an acquired taste. (many never acquire it. :noidea: - lol)


The point Im driving at is that sacrificing Thad's redshirt for a few carries against Central Connecticut Culinary School and 3 other carries in 3 other games is a good way to harm your team's future recruiting.
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Listen, I’d burn every redshirt we had, the U cannot lose to CCCS under any circumstances. Half their team is French, no price is too high.
 
Boarcane said:
Thad not doing “things on and off the field”. It’s what you implied fool, not me. Fool
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That's not what I was implying you ******* clown! I never mentioned his name! I said "backs" plural you ****** idiot!
 
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