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3 Concerns

JHallCanes said:
There were 3 main concerns we had as fans and for now I think all were alleviated (for now)

1. Run defense. DT was a concern and we had that one bad play but every time Johnson got the ball he was SWARMED. The score helped but they couldn’t run it on us.

2. Secondary. Not much that needs said. We will see when we play more arm talented QBs but our discipline was extremely impressive to me. Florida tried to get us to bite on a lot of misdirection and eye candy stuff early and we didn’t fall for it. Brown gave up a decent gain but that was just a perfect throw. Jackson and Guidry were busy this summer and it shows.

3. Left guard. A great QB can mask an OL but we didn’t need him to. Rodriguez and McCoy (from what I saw without rewatching) were good. OL is gonna be a strength yet again.

Looking forward to this rewatch to get into the finer details of things. I have a difficult time with the interior of the lines other than splash type plays but this should be fun
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Ward bailed out Rodriguez on that td pass to George. Rodriguez completely whiffed his block on Searcy.
 
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mr.h said:
The receivers still have to step it up to be at Ward’s pace….if possible.
Restrepo’s pass throw attempt was the best.
A lot of people touched the ball.
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If they don't it's like admitting he had better targets at WSU.
 
Cribby said:
Maybe even a loss. The formation was bad for our alignment but it still should’ve been minimal at worse if he routes him back inside rather than losing gap integrity.
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I was iffy on the formation only because they were on the short side of the hash and had keys on opposite side of the field. That was exactly where it went wrong though. When everyone stayed bunched inside he came in thinking he could fill that gap and get a loss. Soon as Johnson saw him go inside it was a rap. Could've easily been a loss. But Jaden should've left that on the interior. I'll excuse that this once though. Only because I saw a lot of signs that he's learning. Even in the game from drive to drive you could see progress in the way he was processing his assignments. I feel **** good about how we started out. Just gotta stay focused.
 
Brooklyndee said:
It's not relevant what Florida is or isn't. This was all about seeing preparation & executing our game plan. As long as we continue to approach the game like that, zero concerns & not many teams on our schedule or not will we not be competitive with.
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Agreed. As long as Miami doesn’t beat Miami, the team will be ok.

Miami had the game won at half. Just don’t turn the ball over and play assignment football and it was a wrap.
 
grover said:
We should have taken some shots at the endzone at the end of the game. They did that to us back in 2009, kicked a field goal with 30 seconds left as opposed to running out the clock. They don't deserve mercy.
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Otoh, don’t we want Billy there as long as possible?
 
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Brooklyndee said:
The run was entirely gap responsibility. Jaden had outside contain. He was the only one on that play who botched his assignment. He stays home it's another minimal gain. I understand what he was thinking. He's just gotta understand gap integrity as a safety means he's the last line of defense against Big plays. Sometimes no benefit in gambling.
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guidry said today that it was not a gap issue but a formation issue. Jaden did was he was suppose to do but they had the wrong formation since one of the LBs went inside.
 
rsa coral gables said:
guidry said today that it was not a gap issue but a formation issue. Jaden did was he was suppose to do but they had the wrong formation since one of the LBs went inside.
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He's covering for his players... Isn't that what we want to see is coaches that have our players backs. Those are the people you fight for. It was definitely a **** formation too which @Cribby & I discussed earlier. But all you have to do to know the truth of it is watch the replay and see the exact moment he hesitated. Same as with Richard's on that long third or fourth down completion on the sidelines where the ball was thrown, he broke on the ball plenty early & then just stopped and let the ball be caught. He obviously thought it was another bad throw and he didn't want to risk pass interference. All the same his bad read allowed them to convert. But this honestly is just nitpicking. Both of those boys and the defense as a whole showed up to show out.
 
rsa coral gables said:
guidry said today that it was not a gap issue but a formation issue. Jaden did was he was suppose to do but they had the wrong formation since one of the LBs went inside.
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I mentioned the formation we were in was a bad look for the set they came out with but the db 100 percent lost gap integrity. Which caused it to be a 70 yard run. Formation alone doesn’t allow for something like that to happen , you need help to make it a long td run. Chris Doering literally just said their one td that mattered was off a bust in assignment. It’s obvious. But props to LG defending his guys.
 
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Brooklyndee said:
He's covering for his players... Isn't that what we want to see is coaches that have our players backs. Those are the people you fight for. It was definitely a **** formation too which @Cribby & I discussed earlier. But all you have to do to know the truth of it is watch the replay and see the exact moment he hesitated. Same as with Richard's on that long third or fourth down completion on the sidelines where the ball was thrown, he broke on the ball plenty early & then just stopped and let the ball be caught. He obviously thought it was another bad throw and he didn't want to risk pass interference. All the same his bad read allowed them to convert. But this honestly is just nitpicking. Both of those boys and the defense as a whole showed up to show out.
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Cribby said:
I mentioned the formation we were in was a bad look for the set they came out with but the db 100 percent lost gap integrity. Which caused it to be a 70 yard run. Formation alone doesn’t allow for something like that to happen , you need help to make it a long td run. Chris Doering literally just said their one td that mattered was off a bust in assignment. It’s obvious. But props to LG defending his guys.
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I am all for Guidry covering for players but didn't he say that it was a busted blitz by the LB who blitzed the wrong gap and was supposed to blitz outside and hold the edge?

Not disagreeing that it was a funky formation or that Gudiry has his players backs but idk how he is protecting the players when he is seemingly saying it was a different player's fault. You can see right before the snap Wes and Jaden are basically stacked. Wes turns to say something to Jaden and the ball is snapped. Def a busted play.

Edit: Found the two quotes in the D$ article:

On PFF’s poor grades for the defensive backs: They have no idea what we're doing on defense. None. They might have given Jaden a minus on that long run, when he was covering a guy, man to man. We should have blitzed off the outside. They don't know what the scheme is. They're just trying to guess if they played it right.

On the 71-yard TD: They didn't really earn it. We gave it to them because we didn't run a defense right. We were supposed to be blitzing off the edge of that tight end, and we didn't get it done. We didn't have the edge to the defense.

On Jaden Harris: Even on that long run, it wasn't really his fault. It was a busted blitz by the linebacker, and he couldn't make him right. He was supposed to cover the tight end, so everybody thinks it was his fault, but it really wasn't. It was a structure of a blitz pattern that didn't get done, so he played great.
 
HardCane said:
I'm concerned about the lack of explosives in the run game. We were death by 1000 paper cuts just like last yr. 2 yds 2yds 3yds 4yds. No chunks...no one extending runs making ppl miss.
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I would like to see splits of just inside runs where we just dive into a pile like duo and the other runs..
 
Cookie917 said:
I am all for Guidry covering for players but didn't he say that it was a busted blitz by the LB who blitzed the wrong gap and was supposed to blitz outside and hold the edge?

Not disagreeing that it was a funky formation or that Gudiry has his players backs but idk how he is protecting the players when he is seemingly saying it was a different player's fault. You can see right before the snap Wes and Jaden are basically stacked. Wes turns to say something to Jaden and the ball is snapped. Def a busted play.

Edit: Found the two quotes in the D$ article:

On PFF’s poor grades for the defensive backs: They have no idea what we're doing on defense. None. They might have given Jaden a minus on that long run, when he was covering a guy, man to man. We should have blitzed off the outside. They don't know what the scheme is. They're just trying to guess if they played it right.

On the 71-yard TD: They didn't really earn it. We gave it to them because we didn't run a defense right. We were supposed to be blitzing off the edge of that tight end, and we didn't get it done. We didn't have the edge to the defense.

On Jaden Harris: Even on that long run, it wasn't really his fault. It was a busted blitz by the linebacker, and he couldn't make him right. He was supposed to cover the tight end, so everybody thinks it was his fault, but it really wasn't. It was a structure of a blitz pattern that didn't get done, so he played great.
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Exactly. He’s not covering for anyone.
 
Cookie917 said:
I am all for Guidry covering for players but didn't he say that it was a busted blitz by the LB who blitzed the wrong gap and was supposed to blitz outside and hold the edge?

Not disagreeing that it was a funky formation or that Gudiry has his players backs but idk how he is protecting the players when he is seemingly saying it was a different player's fault. You can see right before the snap Wes and Jaden are basically stacked. Wes turns to say something to Jaden and the ball is snapped. Def a busted play.

Edit: Found the two quotes in the D$ article:

On PFF’s poor grades for the defensive backs: They have no idea what we're doing on defense. None. They might have given Jaden a minus on that long run, when he was covering a guy, man to man. We should have blitzed off the outside. They don't know what the scheme is. They're just trying to guess if they played it right.

On the 71-yard TD: They didn't really earn it. We gave it to them because we didn't run a defense right. We were supposed to be blitzing off the edge of that tight end, and we didn't get it done. We didn't have the edge to the defense.

On Jaden Harris: Even on that long run, it wasn't really his fault. It was a busted blitz by the linebacker, and he couldn't make him right. He was supposed to cover the tight end, so everybody thinks it was his fault, but it really wasn't. It was a structure of a blitz pattern that didn't get done, so he played great.
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The LB was being double teamed. Yes he had the tight end but it was a run play so that doesn’t matter. So it was obvious who the bust was on, even in the same interview LG said “ “Confidence plays a big part in how he plays”. Meaning he can get in his own head. So I definitely get defending his guy. But when it happened I hollered “ ****’t Jaden “because I was literally straight on from the play. He lost his gap / leverage. A LB going down the wrong hole has nothing to do with an outside bounce by a rb.
 
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JHallCanes said:
Exactly. He’s not covering for anyone.
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In the same interview he says confidence plays a big part in how JH plays so by what the film showed , PFF showed he’s covering for him. We can agree to disagree but anyone that’s played ball it was obvious who lost their gap. Him guarding the te has nothing to do with having his gap on a run. Coaches do this all the time.
 
Cribby said:
In the same interview he says confidence plays a big part in how JH plays so by what the film showed , PFF showed he’s covering for him. We can agree to disagree but anyone that’s played ball it was obvious who lost their gap. Him guarding the te has nothing to do with having his gap on a run. Coaches do this all the time.
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Oh sweet Jesus I’m done with this one
 
Cribby said:
The LB was being double teamed. Yes he had the tight end but it was a run play so that doesn’t matter. Yeah it was obvious who the bust was on but in the same interview LG said “ confidence plays a big part JH’s game. Confidence plays a big part”. Meaning he can get in his own head. So I definitely get defending his guy. But when it happened I hollered “ ****’t Jaden “because I was literally straight on from the play. He lost his gap / leverage.
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Yeah I get confidence is big for everyone so if he was doing it great but then seemed to be doing it at the expense of WB and if it was not WB's fault then that seems ******. I think WB was supposed to be lined up on the line over the TE on the LOS. He was supposed to blitz and seal the edge either stringing Johnson out to the sideline or forces him inside and Jaden cleans up the cutback lane.

Alston immediately gets turned inside and they pull the two OL and thats why Wes looked double teamed, it was still hat on a hat even if WB blitzed but I think that is why the alignment looked a little off. When Guidry said we were supposed to blitz off the edge of the TE thats why I thought alignment issue which screwed up timing and made WB get lost in the wash.

As far as Jaden I do agree with you he lost his leverage where he could have saved it but I dont think the initial bust was on him if that makes sense. He was the second bust and failed to be the "safety" and clean it up after the initial bust.
 
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Cookie917 said:
Yeah I get confidence is big for everyone so if he was doing it great but then seemed to be doing it at the expense of WB and if it was not WB's fault then that seems ******. I think WB was supposed to be lined up on the line over the TE on the LOS. He was supposed to blitz and seal the edge either stringing Johnson out to the sideline or forces him inside and Jaden cleans up the cutback lane.

Alston immediately gets turned inside and they pull the two OL and thats why Wes looked double teamed, it was still hat on a hat even if WB blitzed but I think that is why the alignment looked a little off. When Guidry said we were supposed to blitz off the edge of the TE thats why I thought alignment issue which screwed up timing and made WB get lost in the wash.

As far as Jaden I do agree with you he lost his leverage where he could have saved it but I dont think the initial bust was on him if that makes sense. He was the second bust and failed to be the "safety" and clean it up after the initial bust.
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That’s why I said at worse it should’ve been a nice little gain. Maybe a lb did blitz the wrong hole and maybe if he doesn’t do that it’s blown up. That said you’re called a safety for a reason and still have to keep leverage. Regardless it’s not a long td if he doesn’t lose leverage when Johnson bounces outside.
 
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