What’s going on with him
He would get eaten alive in the SEC lolFigured he would be an absolute lock to Auburn with Golesh.
I agree but I figured Golesh would want a ready made QB for his system.He would get eaten alive in the SEC lol
Glad you see the light.....Honestly Leavitt is dropping a bit for me. He really didn’t have a good year this yr imo. And the injury.
Mestemaker and Sorsby. I don’t think OKSt can match an offer we’d make. It’s just about if he wants to follow Morris. BUT maybe the Cam Ward connection could help with Dawson already having showed the possibility for similar move.
He's making a fortune and from what I understood was a 2 year deal. If we can break it up, he's probably the top of my list.
This is where I'm at. Those are my top two.Honestly Leavitt is dropping a bit for me. He really didn’t have a good year this yr imo. And the injury.
Mestemaker and Sorsby. I don’t think OKSt can match an offer we’d make. It’s just about if he wants to follow Morris. BUT maybe the Cam Ward connection could help with Dawson already having showed the possibility for similar move.
Bailey with less INT's would be a home run. From what I see, probably the best passing QB of all of em.This is where I'm at. Those are my top two.
I'd also take Bailey, but not if he's commanding the same money as Mestemaker or Sorsby. If we can land Bailey at $2.5M a year (vs. $5M for a Sorsby or Mestemaker), that's good value.
Bailey with less INT's would be a home run. From what I see, probably the best passing QB of all of em.
$2.5M for a top-tier Portal QB? No way.This is where I'm at. Those are my top two.
I'd also take Bailey, but not if he's commanding the same money as Mestemaker or Sorsby. If we can land Bailey at $2.5M a year (vs. $5M for a Sorsby or Mestemaker), that's good value.
I have to think Deuce is in line to start at QB. Tho I think Brown would look better with better talent around him. Maybe could compete for the jobHe would get eaten alive in the SEC lol
yup pretty similar. Also similar in that they happened mostly in a couple games.Stats in line with Beck interceptions?
Category | Top-50 | Season | Delta / Takeaway |
| Comp % | 65.9% | 69.6% | ▼ Noticeable efficiency dip |
Yards/Game | 200.4 | 240.3 | ▼ Production drops |
TD/INT | 13 / 6 | 23 / 9 | ▼ Less scoring leverage |
Yards/Attempt | 6.6 | 7.8 | ▼ Explosiveness decline |
QBR | 134.0 | 150.3 | ▼ Impact rating drop |
Sacks | 14 | 20 | ~ Similar pressure rate |
Rush Yds/Att | 3.22 | 2.6 | ▲ Mobility translates |
That’s fine. I wasn’t trying to be exact with the $2.5M figure. The point of the $2.5M vs. $5M comparison is about value. I don’t think we should overpay for Bailey, but if we can get him at a decent discount compared to others, that would represent good value.$2.5M for a top-tier Portal QB? No way.
The floor has to be $3.0 - $3.5 given the market.
Sounds fairly reasonable or accurate. Hold accuracy as critical, so would like to see 70%plus. QB whispers would have a better idea, but our two most recent QBs were highly experienced & a strength being ability to quickly identify & read defenses. Has Bailey shown the same ability?Here is the AI scouting report on Bailey. I fed it all of his stats and baselines + defensive and national stats for context. I asked it to create a scouting report as if it was presenting it to a playoff contending P4 HC, OC, GM with primary focus on how his did vs top 50 defenses (8 of his 12 games):
Below is a front-office style scouting analysis of CJ Bailey (QB, So., NC State) focused specifically on performance vs Top-50 defenses, framed for a Head Coach / GM / Offensive Coordinator audience.
Executive Summary
CJ Bailey profiles as a legitimate Power-4 transfer QB with functional dual-threat traits whose production holds up reasonably well against Top-50 defenses, but whose ceiling is currently constrained by efficiency drop-off, pressure sensitivity, and a lack of explosive passing volume versus elite units.
He is not overwhelmed by quality defenses, but he does not elevate the offense against the best competition. The profile is that of a winning, system-reliant QB with developmental upside, not a plug-and-play CFP difference-maker as a passer yet.
Snapshot: Top-50 Defense Performance vs Season
Key takeaway: Against Top-50 defenses, Bailey retains baseline competence but loses efficiency, explosives, and scoring punch.
Category Top-50 Season Delta / TakeawayComp %
65.9%
69.6%
▼ Noticeable efficiency dip
Yards/Game
200.4
240.3
▼ Production drops
TD/INT
13 / 6
23 / 9
▼ Less scoring leverage
Yards/Attempt
6.6
7.8
▼ Explosiveness decline
QBR
134.0
150.3
▼ Impact rating drop
Sacks
14
20
~ Similar pressure rate
Rush Yds/Att
3.22
2.6
▲ Mobility translates
Passing Traits vs Top-50 Defenses
Positives
These games show he can operate cleanly when protected and when matchups are defined.
- Accuracy remains functional (66% completion)
- Low catastrophic turnover rate (6 INT in 8 games)
- Good Yards/Completion (10.0) → Indicates timing throws & YAC opportunities
- Virginia
- Wake Forest
- UNC
- ECU
Concerns
Translation: Against elite coverage + pass rush combos, Bailey becomes more of a distributor than a play-creator.
- Yards/Attempt drop from 7.8 → 6.8
- TD rate drops sharply vs elite teams
- QBR drops by ~11%
- Multiple sub-60% completion games vs Miami / Notre Dame
- Late reads
- Conservative decision-making
- Limited downfield anticipation
Pressure & Sack Profile
Against Miami & Notre Dame:
- 14 sacks vs Top-50 (70% of season total despite fewer attempts)
- He doesn’t consistently defeat pressure pre-snap
- Needs cleaner pockets or protection help
This aligns with average-to-below-average pressure processing for CFP standards.
- Sack spikes
- INT rate increases
- Y/A collapses
Dual-Threat Value
This is where Bailey quietly helps himself.
He is not an explosive runner, but he:
- 58 rush attempts, 187 yards, 4 TDs vs Top-50
- Rush Y/A improves vs better defenses
- Several high-leverage scrambles (UNC, Virginia)
- Functional red-zone threat
OC takeaway: His legs are reliable in structure, not scramble-chaos like elite runners.
- Extends drives
- Punishes man coverage
- Forces safeties to account for him
Win/Loss Context
He does not fold, but does not flip games in hostile settings.
- 5–3 vs Top-50 defense
- Wins mostly at home or against mid-tier defensive units
- Away environments
- Top-15 caliber defenses
- Pass rush + tight coverage teams
National Context (Passing Ranks)
Strong national baseline, but Top-50 tape explains why he’s not higher.
- Completion %: 13th
- Passing yards: 28th
- TDs: 23rd
- INTs: 12th
- Y/A: 49th
- QBR: 30th
Projection & Fit Evaluation
What He IS
High-floor P4 starter
Coachable, competitive, steady
Functional dual-threat
Can win games with structure
Not turnover-prone
What He Is NOT (Yet)
A CFP defense-breaker
A vertical play-driver
A pressure-immune processor
A plug-and-play Heisman profile
Ideal Fit (OC Perspective)
CJ Bailey fits best in:
He will struggle if asked to:
- RPO-heavy, rhythm-based offenses
- Defined reads (1–2 high)
- Play-action with TE involvement
- QB movement designed into the offense
- Protection-aware systems
Final Verdict (GM / HC Level)
- Live in pure dropback
- Win late vs disguised coverage
- Carry a pass-first offense against elite fronts
CJ Bailey is a viable high-end transfer option if your roster is strong and you need stability, mobility, and developmental upside—but he is not currently a Tier-1 CFP QB who elevates talent around him.
If surrounded properly, he can:
To win Playoff games, he must either:
- Win 9–10 games
- Beat ranked teams
- Manage high-leverage moments
Transfer Grade: B / B-plus
- Take a significant Year-3 leap in anticipation and downfield efficiency
- Be supported by an offense that minimizes pressure exposure
CFP Ceiling (as-is): Competitive Starter, not difference-maker
Developmental Upside: Real, but not guaranteed
I still think he should be a back up options not the priorityHere is the AI scouting report on Bailey. I fed it all of his stats and baselines + defensive and national stats for context. I asked it to create a scouting report as if it was presenting it to a playoff contending P4 HC, OC, GM with primary focus on how his did vs top 50 defenses (8 of his 12 games):
Below is a front-office style scouting analysis of CJ Bailey (QB, So., NC State) focused specifically on performance vs Top-50 defenses, framed for a Head Coach / GM / Offensive Coordinator audience.
Executive Summary
CJ Bailey profiles as a legitimate Power-4 transfer QB with functional dual-threat traits whose production holds up reasonably well against Top-50 defenses, but whose ceiling is currently constrained by efficiency drop-off, pressure sensitivity, and a lack of explosive passing volume versus elite units.
He is not overwhelmed by quality defenses, but he does not elevate the offense against the best competition. The profile is that of a winning, system-reliant QB with developmental upside, not a plug-and-play CFP difference-maker as a passer yet.
Snapshot: Top-50 Defense Performance vs Season
Key takeaway: Against Top-50 defenses, Bailey retains baseline competence but loses efficiency, explosives, and scoring punch.
Category Top-50 Season Delta / TakeawayComp %
65.9%
69.6%
▼ Noticeable efficiency dip
Yards/Game
200.4
240.3
▼ Production drops
TD/INT
13 / 6
23 / 9
▼ Less scoring leverage
Yards/Attempt
6.6
7.8
▼ Explosiveness decline
QBR
134.0
150.3
▼ Impact rating drop
Sacks
14
20
~ Similar pressure rate
Rush Yds/Att
3.22
2.6
▲ Mobility translates
Passing Traits vs Top-50 Defenses
Positives
These games show he can operate cleanly when protected and when matchups are defined.
- Accuracy remains functional (66% completion)
- Low catastrophic turnover rate (6 INT in 8 games)
- Good Yards/Completion (10.0) → Indicates timing throws & YAC opportunities
- Virginia
- Wake Forest
- UNC
- ECU
Concerns
Translation: Against elite coverage + pass rush combos, Bailey becomes more of a distributor than a play-creator.
- Yards/Attempt drop from 7.8 → 6.8
- TD rate drops sharply vs elite teams
- QBR drops by ~11%
- Multiple sub-60% completion games vs Miami / Notre Dame
- Late reads
- Conservative decision-making
- Limited downfield anticipation
Pressure & Sack Profile
Against Miami & Notre Dame:
- 14 sacks vs Top-50 (70% of season total despite fewer attempts)
- He doesn’t consistently defeat pressure pre-snap
- Needs cleaner pockets or protection help
This aligns with average-to-below-average pressure processing for CFP standards.
- Sack spikes
- INT rate increases
- Y/A collapses
Dual-Threat Value
This is where Bailey quietly helps himself.
He is not an explosive runner, but he:
- 58 rush attempts, 187 yards, 4 TDs vs Top-50
- Rush Y/A improves vs better defenses
- Several high-leverage scrambles (UNC, Virginia)
- Functional red-zone threat
OC takeaway: His legs are reliable in structure, not scramble-chaos like elite runners.
- Extends drives
- Punishes man coverage
- Forces safeties to account for him
Win/Loss Context
He does not fold, but does not flip games in hostile settings.
- 5–3 vs Top-50 defense
- Wins mostly at home or against mid-tier defensive units
- Away environments
- Top-15 caliber defenses
- Pass rush + tight coverage teams
National Context (Passing Ranks)
Strong national baseline, but Top-50 tape explains why he’s not higher.
- Completion %: 13th
- Passing yards: 28th
- TDs: 23rd
- INTs: 12th
- Y/A: 49th
- QBR: 30th
Projection & Fit Evaluation
What He IS
High-floor P4 starter
Coachable, competitive, steady
Functional dual-threat
Can win games with structure
Not turnover-prone
What He Is NOT (Yet)
A CFP defense-breaker
A vertical play-driver
A pressure-immune processor
A plug-and-play Heisman profile
Ideal Fit (OC Perspective)
CJ Bailey fits best in:
He will struggle if asked to:
- RPO-heavy, rhythm-based offenses
- Defined reads (1–2 high)
- Play-action with TE involvement
- QB movement designed into the offense
- Protection-aware systems
Final Verdict (GM / HC Level)
- Live in pure dropback
- Win late vs disguised coverage
- Carry a pass-first offense against elite fronts
CJ Bailey is a viable high-end transfer option if your roster is strong and you need stability, mobility, and developmental upside—but he is not currently a Tier-1 CFP QB who elevates talent around him.
If surrounded properly, he can:
To win Playoff games, he must either:
- Win 9–10 games
- Beat ranked teams
- Manage high-leverage moments
Transfer Grade: B / B-plus
- Take a significant Year-3 leap in anticipation and downfield efficiency
- Be supported by an offense that minimizes pressure exposure
CFP Ceiling (as-is): Competitive Starter, not difference-maker
Developmental Upside: Real, but not guaranteed