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Hoyacane1620 said:
I challenge that there were 6 catchable balls...
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Doesn’t matter if there were 6 catchable balls; the fact is while he had some camp highlights shared here, the real truth is he was more 3rd stringer & wasn’t cutting it on special teams. That’s the difference between him & Berrios; Berrios was buried on the depth charts, too, at the WR position, but he brought value on ST.

X didn’t do anything to distinguish himself from vets & WRs actually drafted, so the only way he was going to make the team was via ST which he did not stand out in.
 
Rellyrell said:
So several things:

1. This is y I said we can’t continue to be the home of UDFAs & late round draft picks. That’s not a flex.

2. X only produced 3 catches for 26 yrds in the pre-season on 6 targets.

3. This is y practice reports r to be taken w a grain of salt.
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This has been a flex on this forum since Day 1. I think you have this incorrect, Rell. A bunch of Jon Garvins and Kc McDermotts should win us the ACC, brother. idk what to tell you.
 
Rellyrell said:
Doesn’t matter if there were 6 catchable balls; the fact is while he had some camp highlights shared here, the real truth is he was more 3rd stringer & wasn’t cutting it on special teams. That’s the difference between him & Berrios; Berrios was buried on the depth charts, too, at the WR position, but he brought value on ST.

X didn’t do anything to distinguish himself from vets & WRs actually drafted, so the only way he was going to make the team was via ST which he did not stand out in.
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The X vs Berrios discussions were something of Souf Florduh legend here.

X stock has fallen something fierce from the bowl game until now. Let’s hope he continues to get off the mat and get after it.
 
dycane said:
There isn’t a WR on the roster who has any shot of performing like X this year. None
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JD4 said:
X wasn’t the best athlete but he was consistent and knew how to get open. He was our most productive receiver through multiple QBs because they trusted him.

He may or may not have the athleticism to make plays at the next level but he was a great college receiver for us
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Was he great or were our other WR not great. This will be unpopular to say but our WR room has not been good for years. I think finally we have some NFL talent with the 2025 class. Even Trader and Robinson if they can stay healthy.
 
Angry Ibis said:
The X vs Berrios discussions were something of Souf Florduh legend here.

X stock has fallen something fierce from the bowl game until now. Let’s hope he continues to get off the mat and get after it.
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Berrios tested as a far superior athlete at the NFL level. Ppl tend to assume college production = NFL success. While I’m critical of the combine where guys that are uber athletic tend to be reached on, I also understand why. In a perfect world u want both; U want to see the collegiate production + a guy who test well, or at least test avg.

In the world of a sport where speed, twitch, strength is premium, teams r always going to lean upon that, even more so than IQ. They feel they can coach up IQ (which I’m indifferent on, especially at certain positions). X had the collegiate production, but he tested well below the standard of a WR. Like I told the board after his pro day, he can’t be that height, that body type & run a 4.83 “hand-timed” 40, which would most likely be a 4.88-4.9 laser.

He’s a hard worker, has great feel for the game, but the NFL is the home of the best. His IQ + lack of athleticism/ideal size at the WR position will get ate alive by a CB, DB, or LB that’s bigger, stronger, faster than him w NFL IQ. U just hope he continues on developing his craft, & catch on to the right team.
 
SIBCanes said:
Was he great or were our other WR not great. This will be unpopular to say but our WR room has not been good for years. I think finally we have some NFL talent with the 2025 class. Even Trader and Robinson if they can stay healthy.
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We’ve had “NFL talent” at the WR position for yrs. By definition, if a player gets drafted &/or plays in a NFL game, that’s NFL talent. The problem is we have not had difference makers at the position. The last true difference maker was Richards who would’ve been a no doubt in my mind 1st Rd draft pick.
 
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Rellyrell said:
Berrios tested as a far superior athlete at the NFL level. Ppl tend to assume college production = NFL success. While I’m critical of the combine where guys that are uber athletic tend to be reached on, I also understand why. In a perfect world u want both; U want to see the collegiate production + a guy who test well, or at least test avg.

In the world of a sport where speed, twitch, strength is premium, teams r always going to lean upon that, even more so than IQ. They feel they can coach up IQ (which I’m indifferent on, especially at certain positions). X had the collegiate production, but he tested well below the standard of a WR. Like I told the board after his pro day, he can’t be that height, that body type & run a 4.83 “hand-timed” 40, which would most likely be a 4.88-4.9 laser.

He’s a hard worker, has great feel for the game, but the NFL is the home of the best. His IQ + lack of athleticism/ideal size at the WR position will get ate alive by a CB, DB, or LB that’s bigger, stronger, faster than him w NFL IQ. U just hope he continues on developing his craft, & catch on to the right team.
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Agreed. I wish him nothing but the best.
 
Rellyrell said:
We’ve had “NFL talent” at the WR position for yrs. By definition, if a player gets drafted &/or plays in a NFL game, that’s NFL talent. The problem is we have not had difference makers at the position. The last true difference maker was Richards who would’ve been a no doubt in my mind 1st Rd draft pick.
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Besides kj osborn or Dorsett we haven't had many stick around the NFL. This can be said for all positions. But you need to go back to Andre Johnson, Wayne and Moss for difference makers. That is 20 years. That is criminal that a team from South Florida with all the talent we have in High School can't recruit in our own backyard.
 
SIBCanes said:
Besides kj osborn or Dorsett we haven't had many stick around the NFL. This can be said for all positions. But you need to go back to Andre Johnson, Wayne and Moss for difference makers. That is 20 years. That is criminal that a team from South Florida with all the talent we have in High School can't recruit in our own backyard.
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I don't think recruiting has been the biggest issue. I'd put evaluating as a much higher deficiency.
 
Rellyrell said:
Doesn’t matter if there were 6 catchable balls; the fact is while he had some camp highlights shared here, the real truth is he was more 3rd stringer & wasn’t cutting it on special teams. That’s the difference between him & Berrios; Berrios was buried on the depth charts, too, at the WR position, but he brought value on ST.

X didn’t do anything to distinguish himself from vets & WRs actually drafted, so the only way he was going to make the team was via ST which he did not stand out in.
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And I will argue he didn't even get the shot to do that.
 
cway313 said:
I don't think recruiting has been the biggest issue. I'd put evaluating as a much higher deficiency.
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Evaluations is part of recruiting, it is a huge part of recruiting. Getting head cases or players who don't love the grind is part of the issue the last 20 years.
 
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Rellyrell said:
Doesn’t matter if there were 6 catchable balls; the fact is while he had some camp highlights shared here, the real truth is he was more 3rd stringer & wasn’t cutting it on special teams. That’s the difference between him & Berrios; Berrios was buried on the depth charts, too, at the WR position, but he brought value on ST.

X didn’t do anything to distinguish himself from vets & WRs actually drafted, so the only way he was going to make the team was via ST which he did not stand out in.
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berries is way more athletic which is why he was able to stay in the league. tbh this is prolly his last shot to stay in the league anyways w Houston.
 
It's crazy to me (post-2005): the gap between our perception of our players while they're here and the eventual results in the NFL. To me it's shocking George, Restrepo, and Martinez are not NFL-caliber, but alas I guess they are not. How loaded were we actually last year? Is 10-2 even underachieving or about right?
 
Rellyrell said:
Berrios tested as a far superior athlete at the NFL level. Ppl tend to assume college production = NFL success. While I’m critical of the combine where guys that are uber athletic tend to be reached on, I also understand why. In a perfect world u want both; U want to see the collegiate production + a guy who test well, or at least test avg.

In the world of a sport where speed, twitch, strength is premium, teams r always going to lean upon that, even more so than IQ. They feel they can coach up IQ (which I’m indifferent on, especially at certain positions). X had the collegiate production, but he tested well below the standard of a WR. Like I told the board after his pro day, he can’t be that height, that body type & run a 4.83 “hand-timed” 40, which would most likely be a 4.88-4.9 laser.

He’s a hard worker, has great feel for the game, but the NFL is the home of the best. His IQ + lack of athleticism/ideal size at the WR position will get ate alive by a CB, DB, or LB that’s bigger, stronger, faster than him w NFL IQ. U just hope he continues on developing his craft, & catch on to the right team.
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Rellyrell said:
We’ve had “NFL talent” at the WR position for yrs. By definition, if a player gets drafted &/or plays in a NFL game, that’s NFL talent. The problem is we have not had difference makers at the position. The last true difference maker was Richards who would’ve been a no doubt in my mind 1st Rd draft pick.
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Agree 100%.
 
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