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Marshall smelling a little like that faqqit Hollowman from GA last year. Both are guys wanted by the local school.

But we don't really need a 4th WR this year anyway. So I say shoot for the moon on that 4th spot.

Difference is Hollimon has Eason to hang his hat on.

The last LSU QB to amount to anything in college was Mettenberger and even he wasnt all that. Marshall is old enough to remember when MDupree was the man in LA out of HS and for him to see this kid have a horrible career due to bad QB play and OCs and to not even get drafted has to have him looking at them ****-eyed.
 
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With your line of thinking Jeff Thomas would not be a Cane. You need to realize there are elite players that exist outside of Florida . And you have give them attention they're not just going to "jump into the boat" all the time




How quickly people forget that we almost completely whiffed on WRs last year before a late double of "let's flip a WVU verbal" and "let's take a chance on an East St. Louis kid with potential academic issues" turned into an amazing bit of good fortune.

Again, I'm not knocking EFFORT. I'm not saying that Dugans got on Harley and Thomas only in the last month or two. But we CLEARLY were targeting other guys, we had not nearly spent the same effort on Thomas, and that's a fact.

Having said that, I have no complaints with making efforts for Terrace (just as some think we should be trying for Justin Fields), but we have to have some sort of a "cut-off" that will not cost us with very talented (even if they are still less talented than certain out-of-staters) kids who are right in our own backyard.

Sure, I'd love to have some ungodly squad of 4 and 5 star kids from across the country. But, historically, our squads of 3-5 star kids from Florida have ended up beating the pants off of everyone else.

If out-of-staters aren't pretty clear on picking Miami very early, it's a LOT of effort to spend when the chances are low. Make the effort, don't bet the farm, though.

Even though we never came close to whiffing (unless I'm misunderstanding u) I'm curious if you realize the reason we were in that late wait & see more was because we were waiting on the local kid... again I'm not trying to attack. A lil off on the context of your message. Can't tell if youre supporting or not in going after marshall. (Its early in the am here so excuse the blondness) if jerry jeudy wouldve been the louisina kid last year & devonta was the local kid what then?




Let me see if I can add the right context.

By "whiffed", I meant that one month before National Signing Day, at an OBVIOUS position of need, we had one guy committed (whose brother was also on the roster).

I'm not saying we didn't make a great effort on guys, or that guys had us at [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] on their list. Lots of baseball players make great swings at the ball and miss by a fraction of an inch. That's a "whiff". But I also understand and respect what you are saying.

My point was simple. If we also missed by a fraction of an inch with Harley and Thomas, we are staring at one of the worst outcomes EVER in our WR recruiting. But we connected with those two, and we salvaged a good class.

I do get what you are saying. I do believe there are times when you can "wait on the local kid" (one of whom was Harley). But when you are desperate at a particular position, and you are one month from NSD, I think you might have to abandon the "waiting on the local kid" scenario. Hey, maybe you and I won't agree on that one point, but I think we are both veterans of watching years and years of this recruiting game, and it's tough to have a hard-and-fast rule that covers all scenarios.

I'm fine with making an effort with Terrace Marshall, but that is NOW, with 3 verbals 8 months prior to NSD. And I'm fine with taking maybe 1 more WR than ordinary because we could have taken 4 last year.

Bottom line is this. If we are waiting on a 5-star kid, and he is looking at one or more schools to see what they do during the year, then I'm not sure how many chips to bet. Because we might have a pure freshman starting. We might play multiple QBs this year. If this was a situation where Kaaya was here, even though he will graduate, and even though some people think he is imperfect, at least the kid could see what our passing offense can look like in his hands.

That's all. I love that "chance" of getting Marshall, but will he see what he needs to see out of the UM offense? Because if that might be doubtful, maybe we just stick with the local kids who love us, and try to pull some out-of-staters next year.

I don't think there is any "one right answer" here, I'm just expressing my opinion. I just think, sometimes, some of our posters fall into the "momentum" argument and want us to get "everyone". I'm still a bit cautious, I don't know how long we should chase out-of-state blue chippers. Makes me nervous when we have a pretty good local kid who, reportedly, has tried to commit three times.

Love talking with you, dee.

Kool. Now understanding perfectly what your saying I can add to this. #1 the local kid in Elijah Moore we basically need to get out of our heads... It's gonna take ALOT for him to be a take for us. #2 what makes the situation with Marshall perfect for this year more so than any other is were perfectly content to close this class with the 3 receivers we already have in place. A fourth one is simply a perk that honestly our current wr unit is already expressing concerns about (can't elaborate)were not gonna settle this year for that 4 spot. It's gonna be a kid we really like. As of now first two options are x & Marshall. As of paradise if x situation doesn't change with bama it will change with us. That's the only other reason were cultivating more relationships. It's gonna be a race between a few prospects for that 4 spot. If we miss oh well we just move on to 19.well be fine. Sad **** is probably one of the top 3 receivers in state who no one speaks of that would kill to be a cane (eskridge) doesn't have a prayer in **** cause he's dumb as a box of rocks.




Dee, are you talking about Jermaine Eskridge up in Tampa? Yeah, he's definitely got the height/weight combo, and if Tee says he is a great WR, I would have all the faith in the world. If academics is the issue, that would explain the slow recruiting and the 3 stars.

I hope no knuckleheads take this the wrong way, I used to work within a mile of Jefferson High, and a bunch of my co-workers and myself were part of a group that would go out to read books to kids in the elementary school for that area. It is really so hard to observe, that even as that area of Tampa is becoming a corporate headquarters hotbed, the local community is so poorly served by the school board. I know Jefferson has gotten a bad rap for a while on academics, and it is just pathetic how the community spends all of its money to make the roads and the traffic lights and everything else "fancy" a mile away, while the high school never sees the improvements.

I hope Jermaine Eskridge gets a chance somewhere, and I hope the academics are better than USF's.
 
How quickly people forget that we almost completely whiffed on WRs last year before a late double of "let's flip a WVU verbal" and "let's take a chance on an East St. Louis kid with potential academic issues" turned into an amazing bit of good fortune.

Again, I'm not knocking EFFORT. I'm not saying that Dugans got on Harley and Thomas only in the last month or two. But we CLEARLY were targeting other guys, we had not nearly spent the same effort on Thomas, and that's a fact.

Having said that, I have no complaints with making efforts for Terrace (just as some think we should be trying for Justin Fields), but we have to have some sort of a "cut-off" that will not cost us with very talented (even if they are still less talented than certain out-of-staters) kids who are right in our own backyard.

Sure, I'd love to have some ungodly squad of 4 and 5 star kids from across the country. But, historically, our squads of 3-5 star kids from Florida have ended up beating the pants off of everyone else.

If out-of-staters aren't pretty clear on picking Miami very early, it's a LOT of effort to spend when the chances are low. Make the effort, don't bet the farm, though.

Even though we never came close to whiffing (unless I'm misunderstanding u) I'm curious if you realize the reason we were in that late wait & see more was because we were waiting on the local kid... again I'm not trying to attack. A lil off on the context of your message. Can't tell if youre supporting or not in going after marshall. (Its early in the am here so excuse the blondness) if jerry jeudy wouldve been the louisina kid last year & devonta was the local kid what then?




Let me see if I can add the right context.

By "whiffed", I meant that one month before National Signing Day, at an OBVIOUS position of need, we had one guy committed (whose brother was also on the roster).

I'm not saying we didn't make a great effort on guys, or that guys had us at [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] on their list. Lots of baseball players make great swings at the ball and miss by a fraction of an inch. That's a "whiff". But I also understand and respect what you are saying.

My point was simple. If we also missed by a fraction of an inch with Harley and Thomas, we are staring at one of the worst outcomes EVER in our WR recruiting. But we connected with those two, and we salvaged a good class.

I do get what you are saying. I do believe there are times when you can "wait on the local kid" (one of whom was Harley). But when you are desperate at a particular position, and you are one month from NSD, I think you might have to abandon the "waiting on the local kid" scenario. Hey, maybe you and I won't agree on that one point, but I think we are both veterans of watching years and years of this recruiting game, and it's tough to have a hard-and-fast rule that covers all scenarios.

I'm fine with making an effort with Terrace Marshall, but that is NOW, with 3 verbals 8 months prior to NSD. And I'm fine with taking maybe 1 more WR than ordinary because we could have taken 4 last year.

Bottom line is this. If we are waiting on a 5-star kid, and he is looking at one or more schools to see what they do during the year, then I'm not sure how many chips to bet. Because we might have a pure freshman starting. We might play multiple QBs this year. If this was a situation where Kaaya was here, even though he will graduate, and even though some people think he is imperfect, at least the kid could see what our passing offense can look like in his hands.

That's all. I love that "chance" of getting Marshall, but will he see what he needs to see out of the UM offense? Because if that might be doubtful, maybe we just stick with the local kids who love us, and try to pull some out-of-staters next year.

I don't think there is any "one right answer" here, I'm just expressing my opinion. I just think, sometimes, some of our posters fall into the "momentum" argument and want us to get "everyone". I'm still a bit cautious, I don't know how long we should chase out-of-state blue chippers. Makes me nervous when we have a pretty good local kid who, reportedly, has tried to commit three times.

Love talking with you, dee.

Kool. Now understanding perfectly what your saying I can add to this. #1 the local kid in Elijah Moore we basically need to get out of our heads... It's gonna take ALOT for him to be a take for us. #2 what makes the situation with Marshall perfect for this year more so than any other is were perfectly content to close this class with the 3 receivers we already have in place. A fourth one is simply a perk that honestly our current wr unit is already expressing concerns about (can't elaborate)were not gonna settle this year for that 4 spot. It's gonna be a kid we really like. As of now first two options are x & Marshall. As of paradise if x situation doesn't change with bama it will change with us. That's the only other reason were cultivating more relationships. It's gonna be a race between a few prospects for that 4 spot. If we miss oh well we just move on to 19.well be fine. Sad **** is probably one of the top 3 receivers in state who no one speaks of that would kill to be a cane (eskridge) doesn't have a prayer in **** cause he's dumb as a box of rocks.




Dee, are you talking about Jermaine Eskridge up in Tampa? Yeah, he's definitely got the height/weight combo, and if Tee says he is a great WR, I would have all the faith in the world. If academics is the issue, that would explain the slow recruiting and the 3 stars.

I hope no knuckleheads take this the wrong way, I used to work within a mile of Jefferson High, and a bunch of my co-workers and myself were part of a group that would go out to read books to kids in the elementary school for that area. It is really so hard to observe, that even as that area of Tampa is becoming a corporate headquarters hotbed, the local community is so poorly served by the school board. I know Jefferson has gotten a bad rap for a while on academics, and it is just pathetic how the community spends all of its money to make the roads and the traffic lights and everything else "fancy" a mile away, while the high school never sees the improvements.

I hope Jermaine Eskridge gets a chance somewhere, and I hope the academics are better than USF's.

Yup that's who I'm speaking on. I'm not here to bash the kid so I won't explain the level of his education or lack there of. But yes,things would be completely different for him if he could simply catch a break & find someone interested in him for more than football. Honestly he needs someone to care about him as a person first & foremost. The kid would be a monster wherever he goes but there's absolutely NO WAY he gets his grades or his scores... He doesn't even bother with camps anymore cause he knows it's pointless.
 
Kool. Now understanding perfectly what your saying I can add to this. #1 the local kid in Elijah Moore we basically need to get out of our heads... It's gonna take ALOT for him to be a take for us. #2 what makes the situation with Marshall perfect for this year more so than any other is were perfectly content to close this class with the 3 receivers we already have in place. A fourth one is simply a perk that honestly our current wr unit is already expressing concerns about (can't elaborate)were not gonna settle this year for that 4 spot. It's gonna be a kid we really like. As of now first two options are x & Marshall. As of paradise if x situation doesn't change with bama it will change with us. That's the only other reason were cultivating more relationships. It's gonna be a race between a few prospects for that 4 spot. If we miss oh well we just move on to 19.well be fine. Sad **** is probably one of the top 3 receivers in state who no one speaks of that would kill to be a cane (eskridge) doesn't have a prayer in **** cause he's dumb as a box of rocks.

Why the offer to Thornton?
 
Kool. Now understanding perfectly what your saying I can add to this. #1 the local kid in Elijah Moore we basically need to get out of our heads... It's gonna take ALOT for him to be a take for us. #2 what makes the situation with Marshall perfect for this year more so than any other is were perfectly content to close this class with the 3 receivers we already have in place. A fourth one is simply a perk that honestly our current wr unit is already expressing concerns about (can't elaborate)were not gonna settle this year for that 4 spot. It's gonna be a kid we really like. As of now first two options are x & Marshall. As of paradise if x situation doesn't change with bama it will change with us. That's the only other reason were cultivating more relationships. It's gonna be a race between a few prospects for that 4 spot. If we miss oh well we just move on to 19.well be fine. Sad **** is probably one of the top 3 receivers in state who no one speaks of that would kill to be a cane (eskridge) doesn't have a prayer in **** cause he's dumb as a box of rocks.

Why the offer to Thornton?

Gotta have back up plans in place if he pans out the way we'd like.
 
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Why the offer to Thornton?

Gotta have back up plans in place if he pans out the way we'd like.




Dee, last question on Jermaine Eskridge. Do you have any idea of whether UM has contacted the kid at all, and, if so, might we consider a sign-and-place arrangement? It seems like if we have great certainty he will not qualify, then it doesn't hurt to offer the kid in January, raise his recruiting profile, and then place him with a JuCo (or prep school if he raises his grades, but not his SAT). Thanks!
 

Why the offer to Thornton?

Gotta have back up plans in place if he pans out the way we'd like.




Dee, last question on Jermaine Eskridge. Do you have any idea of whether UM has contacted the kid at all, and, if so, might we consider a sign-and-place arrangement? It seems like if we have great certainty he will not qualify, then it doesn't hurt to offer the kid in January, raise his recruiting profile, and then place him with a JuCo (or prep school if he raises his grades, but not his SAT). Thanks!

We've looked into him before. He tried to commit last year & right after signing day. His situation is flat out impossible. I'd prefer not to really get into it because I truly do feel sorry for him. But easiest way to explain it is he's illiterate to say the least.
 
Man. That's heartbreaking, Dee. Hope the kid has people around him to support him in life outside of a sport. Sucks he's been failed his whole life.
 
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Miami needs to keep a national presence regardless of what's supposedly going on in FL that year in recruiting at a given position. Other parts of the country produce great players too. Thing is, if you miss on a priority guy, rather it be a local dude or national your second option better be just as good or better. I remember when Miami wanted James carter or whatever his name was real bad in the early 2000's when Davis was here. He went to fsu but Miami got Sean Taylor who turned out to be way better. Doesn't always happen that way but hopefully the point is understood.
 
Man. That's heartbreaking, Dee. Hope the kid has people around him to support him in life outside of a sport. Sucks he's been failed his whole life.

It really does suck. Truly sad part is his supposed support system clearly only cares about what he can long term bring to the table through sports. Once reality comes crashing down in the next year he's gonna be all alone.
 
Why the offer to Thornton?

Gotta have back up plans in place if he pans out the way we'd like.




Dee, last question on Jermaine Eskridge. Do you have any idea of whether UM has contacted the kid at all, and, if so, might we consider a sign-and-place arrangement? It seems like if we have great certainty he will not qualify, then it doesn't hurt to offer the kid in January, raise his recruiting profile, and then place him with a JuCo (or prep school if he raises his grades, but not his SAT). Thanks!

We've looked into him before. He tried to commit last year & right after signing day. His situation is flat out impossible. I'd prefer not to really get into it because I truly do feel sorry for him. But easiest way to explain it is he's illiterate to say the least.

Man, that's incredibly sad. Truly hope the kid catches a break and gets an opportunity somewhere, even if it's juco or something. Seems unlikely as you said, but situations like that are heartbreaking to see especially when there's so much potential. Good luck to him.
 
Man. That's heartbreaking, Dee. Hope the kid has people around him to support him in life outside of a sport. Sucks he's been failed his whole life.

It really does suck. Truly sad part is his supposed support system clearly only cares about what he can long term bring to the table through sports. Once reality comes crashing down in the next year he's gonna be all alone.

Ugh.
 
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