2 year class combo

My biggest thought after reading it is that I find myself going down each position thinking "not bad", but then at the end of all of them except for DE I find myself saying "man, we do need to hit that hard next year". That's worrisome. I like the kids we have, but we just seem to need more of the difference makers at every spot. At OL and DT and LB we just have to have some of those projects come through for us. Jenkins, the JUCOs, Moten, Odogwu/Gall.... those guys have to be players for us.

Jimbo had a great description of this point in an interview yesterday. He said something along the lines of "scoreboard changers" vs. guys who move the chains. We have a couple of those - Duke and Stacey. Not sure who else fits that description.

On defense, Lamarcus Joyner would fit this description. Hopefully, Deon, Tracy, AQM, and a couple others will show it next year.
 
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OP is missing Figueroa

Also, I'd feel a lot better with the following guys we basically gave away:

Skai Moore
Isaiah McKenzie
Juwon Dowels
Chris Lammons
Treon Harris
 
Swag - here's my 2-year write-up I did a while ago and edited yesterday:


Two-year haul at each position - bump for NSD

Let's say for the sake of argument that nothing else happens with this class between now and signing day (we know it will, but for the purpose of this exercise just bear with me.)

I like to look at two-year spans to judge positions, so here's what I have, and my thoughts on each:

QB: Kaaya, Rosier, Olsen

My Thoughts - Instant depth and competition at this position. LOVE Kaaya, love(d) Olsen before all the drama, and Rosier is no slouch and gives us a dimension we've never really had here before. Get one big-time QB in 2015 and we're rolling.


RB: Yearby, Edwards

My Thoughts - Yearby is a stud. I always figured the Big 3 schools would each get one of the Big 3 RBs this year - Sony went to UGA, but the premise still holds. Edwards will be a good one after a year in the weight room and some coaching. That said, I would have liked one more "complete" RB in one of the last two classes, given the position's penchant for injury.


WR: Berrios, Langham, Brady, Coley

My Thoughts - Coley makes this a good two-year haul. We missed on some good WRs this year, but if there's one position I'm rarely worried about talent-wise in South Florida, it's WR. I don't think any of the guys we missed on this year are on Coley's level. Berrios has a chip on his shoulder and I think will be a good slot receiver here. Brady and Langham add some depth (as would Lenius if we add him,) and I expect us to go hard in 2015 at this position.


TE: Njoku, Herndon, Dobard, Sandland

My Thoughts - Sandland could be a good one if anybody would throw to him. Dobard has the frame to be a beast, and I like Herndon's toughness at the position. Njoku lessens the need to sign more than 1-2 TE next year - impressed with him as a pass-catcher and will be very good after a RS year, IMO.


OL: McDermott, Darling, Linder, Odogwu, Gall, Knighton

My Thoughts - KC might be our best pure OL recruit ever. Seriously. I see him starting at one of the tackle spots by mid-year this year and not looking back until draft day. We rounded out the 2-year OL class with a very balanced line - tackles, guards, and a center. I always want to take 3-4 OL every year if possible, and 2015 should be no different.


DE: Thomas, Jackson, Harris, Smith?, AQM

My Thoughts - Smith is a question mark only because he's a "tweener". He could play OLB but I put him here for now simply because whether his hand is up or down, he's going to rush the passer. AMAZING haul at DE - instant upgrade to by far our worst defensive position. Thomas and AQM are studs, Harris has a Olivier Vernon-esque first step, and Jackson's ceiling is through the roof. Love this position going forward.


DT: Moten, Heurtelou, Jenkins, Wyche, Kamalu

My Thoughts - Losing Valentine hurts (though the writing has been on that particular wall for a while, IMO.) *2/5 update - yeah, nothing new here for over a month.* That said, we desperately needed JUCO help and got it, and Moten is a very good developmental DT. I listed Kamalu here rather than DE because I believe he slides into Olsen Pierre's slot in the future at 3-tech.


LB: Owens, Young, McCray, Figueroa, Grace

My Thoughts - I LOVE Juwon Young's game. He and Figs bring some much-needed anger to this position. In Grace, we have someone who can cover a lot of ground in a hurry - Ramon Buchanon with better hips and a bigger frame, IMO. McCray and Owens will redshirt and provide depth going forward. Overall, I would have liked another pure LB in this class, and expect LB to be a major focus in 2015.


CB: Mayes, Burns, Elder

My Thoughts - With a plethora of young CBs already in the fold, this is a small 2-year grab. Burns will be a stud here before he's done. Elder has enormous upside and has played earlier than I thought he would. Like WR, this is another position that is typically stacked in South Florida, so I see no reason not to load up again in 2015 and 16.


S: Hester, Gayot, Carter

My Thoughts - Another major roster upgrade here (not hard, I know, given what we've had.) Hester is the centerfielder of the future - maybe the 2nd or 3rd most talented overall recruit in this class behind KC and Yearby. When Carter sees the field, I think we'll FINALLY be back to seeing safety play better suited to Miami (FL) than Miami (OH). I still expect us to take a safety or two in 2015.


K/P: O'Donnell, Semerene (PWO)

My Thoughts - What a pick-up O'Donnell turned out to be! Maybe the single-most important "waiver-wire" recruit, and that's saying something. K/P is hard to predict, recruiting-wise, since so often this position is filled with preferred walk-ons, graduated transfers like O'Donnell, etc. Speaking of walk-ons, Semerene may turn out to be the biggest coup in this year's class. BEAST of a kicker.


ATH: Gray, RL3

My Thoughts - Gray is an off-the-charts athletic freak, if he has the grades to get in. RL3 has no position until he can prove that he does, if you get my meaning.



Overall 2-Year Thoughts Are there holes in the haul? Yes. I'd like to see us go HARD after LB, RB, and CB next year. Were there misses on blue-chip recruits? Absolutely. Cook or Michel would have fixed our RB depth. Valentine is a major loss. Any one of the WRs we missed on would have helped tremendously.

However, there's really no denying this - on paper, Al Golden has completely changed the face of this roster via the 2013 and 2014 classes with major talent upgrades at every position. Regardless of your feelings on Golden's coaching acumen, defensive philosophies, etc. etc., I defy you to look at these two classes and not giggle a little inside.

In terms of how this haul translates to the field, I look for 2015 and 2016 (when the current recruits are sophomores and juniors) to be very special years.

As always, I welcome the board's thoughts!

Say it ain't so...well said!! If we can get a few of the enrollees to step up and wyche to come an not be Tyler Mcmeans we should do well. The calvary is coming.
 
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Swag - here's my 2-year write-up I did a while ago and edited yesterday:


Two-year haul at each position - bump for NSD

Let's say for the sake of argument that nothing else happens with this class between now and signing day (we know it will, but for the purpose of this exercise just bear with me.)

I like to look at two-year spans to judge positions, so here's what I have, and my thoughts on each:

QB: Kaaya, Rosier, Olsen

My Thoughts - Instant depth and competition at this position. LOVE Kaaya, love(d) Olsen before all the drama, and Rosier is no slouch and gives us a dimension we've never really had here before. Get one big-time QB in 2015 and we're rolling.


RB: Yearby, Edwards

My Thoughts - Yearby is a stud. I always figured the Big 3 schools would each get one of the Big 3 RBs this year - Sony went to UGA, but the premise still holds. Edwards will be a good one after a year in the weight room and some coaching. That said, I would have liked one more "complete" RB in one of the last two classes, given the position's penchant for injury.


WR: Berrios, Langham, Brady, Coley

My Thoughts - Coley makes this a good two-year haul. We missed on some good WRs this year, but if there's one position I'm rarely worried about talent-wise in South Florida, it's WR. I don't think any of the guys we missed on this year are on Coley's level. Berrios has a chip on his shoulder and I think will be a good slot receiver here. Brady and Langham add some depth (as would Lenius if we add him,) and I expect us to go hard in 2015 at this position.


TE: Njoku, Herndon, Dobard, Sandland

My Thoughts - Sandland could be a good one if anybody would throw to him. Dobard has the frame to be a beast, and I like Herndon's toughness at the position. Njoku lessens the need to sign more than 1-2 TE next year - impressed with him as a pass-catcher and will be very good after a RS year, IMO.


OL: McDermott, Darling, Linder, Odogwu, Gall, Knighton

My Thoughts - KC might be our best pure OL recruit ever. Seriously. I see him starting at one of the tackle spots by mid-year this year and not looking back until draft day. We rounded out the 2-year OL class with a very balanced line - tackles, guards, and a center. I always want to take 3-4 OL every year if possible, and 2015 should be no different.


DE: Thomas, Jackson, Harris, Smith?, AQM

My Thoughts - Smith is a question mark only because he's a "tweener". He could play OLB but I put him here for now simply because whether his hand is up or down, he's going to rush the passer. AMAZING haul at DE - instant upgrade to by far our worst defensive position. Thomas and AQM are studs, Harris has a Olivier Vernon-esque first step, and Jackson's ceiling is through the roof. Love this position going forward.


DT: Moten, Heurtelou, Jenkins, Wyche, Kamalu

My Thoughts - Losing Valentine hurts (though the writing has been on that particular wall for a while, IMO.) *2/5 update - yeah, nothing new here for over a month.* That said, we desperately needed JUCO help and got it, and Moten is a very good developmental DT. I listed Kamalu here rather than DE because I believe he slides into Olsen Pierre's slot in the future at 3-tech.


LB: Owens, Young, McCray, Figueroa, Grace

My Thoughts - I LOVE Juwon Young's game. He and Figs bring some much-needed anger to this position. In Grace, we have someone who can cover a lot of ground in a hurry - Ramon Buchanon with better hips and a bigger frame, IMO. McCray and Owens will redshirt and provide depth going forward. Overall, I would have liked another pure LB in this class, and expect LB to be a major focus in 2015.


CB: Mayes, Burns, Elder

My Thoughts - With a plethora of young CBs already in the fold, this is a small 2-year grab. Burns will be a stud here before he's done. Elder has enormous upside and has played earlier than I thought he would. Like WR, this is another position that is typically stacked in South Florida, so I see no reason not to load up again in 2015 and 16.


S: Hester, Gayot, Carter

My Thoughts - Another major roster upgrade here (not hard, I know, given what we've had.) Hester is the centerfielder of the future - maybe the 2nd or 3rd most talented overall recruit in this class behind KC and Yearby. When Carter sees the field, I think we'll FINALLY be back to seeing safety play better suited to Miami (FL) than Miami (OH). I still expect us to take a safety or two in 2015.


K/P: O'Donnell, Semerene (PWO)

My Thoughts - What a pick-up O'Donnell turned out to be! Maybe the single-most important "waiver-wire" recruit, and that's saying something. K/P is hard to predict, recruiting-wise, since so often this position is filled with preferred walk-ons, graduated transfers like O'Donnell, etc. Speaking of walk-ons, Semerene may turn out to be the biggest coup in this year's class. BEAST of a kicker.


ATH: Gray, RL3

My Thoughts - Gray is an off-the-charts athletic freak, if he has the grades to get in. RL3 has no position until he can prove that he does, if you get my meaning.



Overall 2-Year Thoughts Are there holes in the haul? Yes. I'd like to see us go HARD after LB, RB, and CB next year. Were there misses on blue-chip recruits? Absolutely. Cook or Michel would have fixed our RB depth. Valentine is a major loss. Any one of the WRs we missed on would have helped tremendously.

However, there's really no denying this - on paper, Al Golden has completely changed the face of this roster via the 2013 and 2014 classes with major talent upgrades at every position. Regardless of your feelings on Golden's coaching acumen, defensive philosophies, etc. etc., I defy you to look at these two classes and not giggle a little inside.

In terms of how this haul translates to the field, I look for 2015 and 2016 (when the current recruits are sophomores and juniors) to be very special years.

As always, I welcome the board's thoughts!

Say it ain't so...well said!! If we can get a few of the enrollees to step up and wyche to come an not be Tyler Mcmeans we should do well. The calvary is coming.

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OP is missing Figueroa

Also, I'd feel a lot better with the following guys we basically gave away:

Skai Moore
Isaiah McKenzie
Juwon Dowels
Chris Lammons
Treon Harris

And you would trade them for which one of our commits :rollcanes:

Umm exactly none
 
OP is missing Figueroa

Also, I'd feel a lot better with the following guys we basically gave away:

Skai Moore
Isaiah McKenzie
Juwon Dowels
Chris Lammons
Treon Harris

And you would trade them for which one of our commits :rollcanes:

Umm exactly none

I'd gladly trade all of them. Are you nuts?

I'd love to have all 5 of those guys at Miami.
 
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OP is missing Figueroa

Also, I'd feel a lot better with the following guys we basically gave away:

Skai Moore
Isaiah McKenzie
Juwon Dowels
Chris Lammons
Treon Harris

And you would trade them for which one of our commits :rollcanes:

Umm exactly none

Why would you have to trade with our commits? What the **** kind of stupid *** reasoning is that?
 
And like i said your going to have to take 3-4 guys out of the class you think we can sign 50 guys :ibisroflmao:
 
And like i said your going to have to take 3-4 guys out of the class you think we can sign 50 guys :ibisroflmao:

That's 4 guys from this year and 1 guy from last year. Seeing how we lost 4 guys over the last month of this cycle and we had space for Tucker after the last cycle was over, it's plainly obvious to anyone that doesn't need reminders to breathe that there was plenty of space.
 
What's the yearly attrition rate per class? I am pretty sure we never keep the whole class intact. Some are arrested, violate team rules, grades, etc.
 
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If 2014 isn't so special and the coach finds himself on the hotseat, then I'm not so sure some of those dudes don't transfer out. Just saying, we are getting way ahead of ourselves. This team needs to perform at a much higher level this year or next offseason will make this offseason seem like church on Easter morning.
 
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