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12 and Climbing ....

9oh4Cane said:
Quite alarming there is so much focus on CFP scenarios and not about beating Pitt.

The line has moved down to 6.5 and many out there think Pitt covers. Cold away game and they will be determined to ruin our season. Smells like a classic Mario special.

They will get pressure on Beck and this game is going to be a dogfight. Not to mention the powers that be want to see us fall flat on our face.

Buckle up
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Pitt looked good when I watched them, that qb be slinging it pause
 
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YLCANE said:
I’m not sure how you say that
BYU w win is 11-1 in a better conference
And has a strong strength of record w like 7-8
Wins versus teams that have winning records

I don’t like it but those are facts
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We have leaped teams every week so far, it's not impossible that we do it again with a ranked win and them playing UCF. If we don't leap them this week, I don't see how we could from a CCG loss.
 
9oh4Cane said:
Quite alarming there is so much focus on CFP scenarios and not about beating Pitt.

The line has moved down to 6.5 and many out there think Pitt covers. Cold away game and they will be determined to ruin our season. Smells like a classic Mario special.

They will get pressure on Beck and this game is going to be a dogfight. Not to mention the powers that be want to see us fall flat on our face.

Buckle up
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This is why Mario and the school have been so quiet. Win and our guys are going to go on the offensive…loudly.
 
drewm3i said:
Win and we're likely in. We only have to move up one spot because BYU and Texas Tech will play. We only need one team ahead of us to lose.
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No we’re not. 12 is a death blow. Y?

1. OSU - in
2. IU - in
3. A&M - in
4. UGA - in
5. TT - in
6. UO - in
7. Ole Miss - ?mark b/c of Kiffin
8. OU - in
9. ND - in
10. Bama - ?mark if they don’t win the SEC
11. BYU - ?mark if they do t win the Big XII
12. Miami
Here’s the issue:
1. The highest G5 ranked team is not in this top 12. They’re stealing a bid
2. Vandy is ranked behind us, but if they beat UTenn, most likely the committee is going to elevate them above us
3. The ACCCG winner steals a bid

So we have to hope & pray for chaos. Unfortunately, the committee is letting us know, clearly, they value ND over us which makes zero sense & this is feeling like 2000 all over again. I wanna be mad at the committee, but losing to a now proven bad UL team hurts. Bama losing to FSU smoked their resumé, initially, but then they went on to beat 4 ranked teams in succession, & all 4 r still ranked. The second loss to an OU team is in the CFP Final 12 rankings.

Fair or not, this is our dilemma; & we need chaos to make both the ACCCG & CFP Final 12.
 
Rellyrell said:
No we’re not. 12 is a death blow. Y?

1. OSU - in
2. IU - in
3. A&M - in
4. UGA - in
5. TT - in
6. UO - in
7. Ole Miss - ?mark b/c of Kiffin
8. OU - in
9. ND - in
10. Bama - ?mark if they don’t win the SEC
11. BYU - ?mark if they do t win the Big XII
12. Miami
Here’s the issue:
1. The highest G5 ranked team is not in this top 12. They’re stealing a bid
2. Vandy is ranked behind us, but if they beat UTenn, most likely the committee is going to elevate them above us
3. The ACCCG winner steals a bid

So we have to hope & pray for chaos. Unfortunately, the committee is letting us know, clearly, they value ND over us which makes zero sense & this is feeling like 2000 all over again. I wanna be mad at the committee, but losing to a now proven bad UL team hurts. Bama losing to FSU smoked their resumé, initially, but then they went on to beat 4 ranked teams in succession, & all 4 r still ranked. The second loss to an OU team is in the CFP Final 12 rankings.

Fair or not, this is our dilemma; & we need chaos to make both the ACCCG & CFP Final 12.
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**** bruh you putting a damper on things with these facts....

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I have no doubt that if Miami gets left out , Dan Radovich will just make some half ***, mealy mouthed statement about the ACC being a quality conference. This isn’t like last year where we were just hoping to look good enough to get in. There is a team ahead of us, Notre Dame, with the same number of losses and we beat them head to head. Miami needs to be working the media to pressure the committee.
 
Alex_Dynamix said:
Yes that aurburn game is no Gimmie..South Carolina had mighty Alabama on the ropes a couple weeks ago
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The line is only -6. I’m sure a lot of people think we’re gonna lose to Pitt. Well we have a higher line (-7) than Alabama does at Auburn.

Auburn has been in every game they’ve played all year. They just keep losing them at the end. Let’s have a ball bounce our way one time.
 
Rellyrell said:
No we’re not. 12 is a death blow. Y?

1. OSU - in
2. IU - in
3. A&M - in
4. UGA - in
5. TT - in
6. UO - in
7. Ole Miss - ?mark b/c of Kiffin
8. OU - in
9. ND - in
10. Bama - ?mark if they don’t win the SEC
11. BYU - ?mark if they do t win the Big XII
12. Miami
Here’s the issue:
1. The highest G5 ranked team is not in this top 12. They’re stealing a bid
2. Vandy is ranked behind us, but if they beat UTenn, most likely the committee is going to elevate them above us
3. The ACCCG winner steals a bid

So we have to hope & pray for chaos. Unfortunately, the committee is letting us know, clearly, they value ND over us which makes zero sense & this is feeling like 2000 all over again. I wanna be mad at the committee, but losing to a now proven bad UL team hurts. Bama losing to FSU smoked their resumé, initially, but then they went on to beat 4 ranked teams in succession, & all 4 r still ranked. The second loss to an OU team is in the CFP Final 12 rankings.

Fair or not, this is our dilemma; & we need chaos to make both the ACCCG & CFP Final 12.
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No. Vandy wouldn't leap over the Canes if Miami beats Pitt and Vandy beats Tennessee...

As to whether you would need chaos to make both the ACCCG and cfp, perhaps, but we don't need to make both... We only need to make the ACCCG (which comes with the opportunity to play into the cfp), OR make it to the cfp directly...

As to games to keep an eye on (other than Canes v. Pitt) that can get us there with a realistic possibility of an upset happening, especially in light of many of the following teams being rivals..., or certain teams' penchant for volatility (e.g, OU's and LSU's issues, etc.), they include:

(i) Bama v. Auburn;
(ii) egg bowl match up, game result and potential coaching change;
iii) Oregon v. Washington,
(iv) OU v. LSU and
(v) ACC results...

Beyond that, the effect of losing a conference championship, which has been largely dismissed as an ineffective way to modify the ranking on the notion that teams shouldn't be punished for losing that game..., the committee pulled back on that, making it clear that they wouldn't ignore that loss in terms of its effect on a team's overall cfp ranking when directly asked if teams that lose that game could slide down the rankings and possibly even out of the cfp... In other words, that's another possibility for Miami to make up enough ground to be in the cfp to the extent that they take care of business with Pitt...

It's the last regular season game of college football, not the last week of college football... Too much left to call it a death blow.
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
The line is only -6. I’m sure a lot of people think we’re gonna lose to Pitt. Well we have a higher line (-7) than Alabama does at Auburn.

Auburn has been in every game they’ve played all year. They just keep losing them at the end. Let’s have a ball bounce our way one time.
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Did you watch them steal a win from Auburns grip a few weeks back? Vs. Georgia I believe? I'm worried folks know whats on the line here, and noone wants egg on their face, not the committee atleast. Bama can't be left out, sim to ND is what I'm thinking.
 
I think the committee is making it clear they will not put us in over ND, but I think they're also making it clear they will put us in if we take care of business against Pitt and other outcomes go our way. It's insane given our H2H win over ND, but this is where we're at.

We need either LSU (Oklahoma), Miss St (Ole Miss), or Auburn (Bama) to pull an upset this week and we probably get the at-large spot out right before the conference championship games. Stanford keeping it close (or winning) against ND would also benefit us. Absent one of those outcomes, we'll need help in conference championship week.

The committee is probably expecting/praying that BYU loses to TT in the rematch, and Bama loses in the SEC Championship. In this scenario, BYU and Bama are out with no need for the committee to conduct a controversial comparison between us and ND in which ND somehow still gets in. A 3 loss Bama will not get in over a 2 loss Miami. They'd be the only 3 loss team in the field and the committee already proved last year they're willing to leave Bama out. A 2 loss BYU will most likely not get in over a 2 loss Miami since they would have just played a de facto playoff game against TT and lost. This scenario is the scenario I think the committee wants because it allows both us and ND to make the playoff (although really I think they just want us to lose to Pitt so they don't have to worry about it).

If none of these scenarios play out for us, the committee will be forced to decide between us, ND, (and assuming BYU/Bama win their conference) the losers of the B12/SEC championship game in the final rankings. Definitely not a scenario where I see them selecting us (ND may even be in trouble too). Should only one of Bama/BYU win their conference, then the committee would select between us, ND, and the other losing team. Either way we probably are first out.
 
DCane said:
I think the committee is making it clear they will not put us in over ND, but I think they're also making it clear they will put us in if we take care of business against Pitt and other outcomes go our way. It's insane given our H2H win over ND, but this is where we're at.

We need either LSU (Oklahoma), Miss St (Ole Miss), or Auburn (Bama) to pull an upset this week and we probably get the at-large spot out right before the conference championship games. Stanford keeping it close (or winning) against ND would also benefit us. Absent one of those outcomes, we'll need help in conference championship week.

The committee is probably expecting/praying that BYU loses to TT in the rematch, and Bama loses in the SEC Championship. In this scenario, BYU and Bama are out with no need for the committee to conduct a controversial comparison between us and ND in which ND somehow still gets in. A 3 loss Bama will not get in over a 2 loss Miami. They'd be the only 3 loss team in the field and the committee already proved last year they're willing to leave Bama out. A 2 loss BYU will most likely not get in over a 2 loss Miami since they would have just played a de facto playoff game against TT and lost. This scenario is the scenario I think the committee wants because it allows both us and ND to make the playoff (although really I think they just want us to lose to Pitt so they don't have to worry about it).

If none of these scenarios play out for us, the committee will be forced to decide between us, ND, (and assuming BYU/Bama win their conference) the losers of the B12/SEC championship game in the final rankings. Definitely not a scenario where I see them selecting us (ND may even be in trouble too). Should only one of Bama/BYU win their conference, then the committee would select between us, ND, and the other losing team. Either way we probably are first out.
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But they left bama out in favor of a conference champion in smu, no? Kind of the same spot we're in.

Now that I say it, how crazy is that smu might have 2 playoff appearances before miami does 🤮
 
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