11/12 Update

Will butch fire Swasey? Any coach who comes in needs to can him.


+1 Million. If the next coach keeps Swasey we'll continue to get our a$$ kicked at the line of scrimmage. That guy needs to go too.

Most of the players that leave for NFl come back out to work with Swasey. Golden came in with his own plan to make the players fat and slow. That's not on Swasey

The player's were coming back to work out at Miami long before Swasey was around
 
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Butch turns 64 this year. Will turn 65 during the season next year.

If Saban wanted to come to Miami, I would have similar concerns. I believe the reason Saban didn't take the Texas job last year is because he didn't want to press re-set at his age.

Keeping the train on the track at 65 is different than building the track at 65 ...

And beyond that ... Butch Davis is not even close to being the football coach Nick Saban is.

Butch is more "Mack Brown", than "Nick Saban" ...

Y'all are gonna be really disappointed.

Just like Golden didn't get fired last year, Butch is not getting hired this year.

They are absolutely not hiring a coach who already has his exit strategy in place before he's coached a game, or especially, secured a staff.

This thread is pandering to the masses, IMO, and the OP has given enough caveats to wiggle out of this post when we hire someone other than Butch.

About the only thing that might be accurate is that Butch has been so aggressive in his pursuit, combined with fan support, that he's now a legit candidate to be a fall back option.

But this scenario is like recruiting. The coaches UM REALLY wants are still in season. So, they can't go after them, and those coaches can't be active in their pursuit of the job. But when they've played their last regular season game, their interest will increase. And from there, they'll decide who really has a legit interest, and who's using UM for leverage.

I'll state again ... If this university hires a coach who NO ONE ELSE wants, be it Butch, Chud, Schiano, or Cristobal, it will be the laziest and most uninspiring search ever ...

If Blake James hires Butch because Paul Dimare tells him to, then this athletics program is finished! What the **** does Paul Dimare know?

There is a reason why football owners, who sign the checks, hire front office people to make these calls.

SMH ...

Butch is not getting the job, IMO.

And if I'm wrong ... It's over for the program.

A place built on innovation and pushing the envelope would be hiring a 65 year old guy who doesn't innovate or push the envelope. And if the OP is accurate, he's already got an exit strategy, and thinks we should hire a guy to replace him who went 27-47 as an HC, and was 3-9 in the year he was fired.

I simply can't believe the people making this decision will be that lazy to turn the keys over to Butch and Mario, hoping 1 guy is the same as he was 20 years ago, but hoping the other guy is significantly better than he was 5 years ago ...

He is 63. And saban is 64. So if saban said miami i want the job, you wouldn't hire saban?

Lost all credibility at "If Saban wanted to come to Miami I would have similar concerns". GTFOH
 
If Blake James hires Butch because Paul Dimare tells him to, then this athletics program is finished! What the **** does Paul Dimare know?

Dimare has forgotten more about football than Blake will ever know.
 
Will butch fire Swasey? Any coach who comes in needs to can him.


+1 Million. If the next coach keeps Swasey we'll continue to get our a$$ kicked at the line of scrimmage. That guy needs to go too.

Most of the players that leave for NFl come back out to work with Swasey. Golden came in with his own plan to make the players fat and slow. That's not on Swasey


Biggest myth in Miami history. Some of the skill players come back and work with Swasey. Name me a lineman that does. He is ok with Speed and Agility training. That's about it. Also South Beach and good weather play a part in those players coming back as well.

Someone asked me about Swasey the other week and that's exactly what I said. He's good at speed training but when it comes to the weight lifting and pure strength... Ehh
 
Will butch fire Swasey? Any coach who comes in needs to can him.


+1 Million. If the next coach keeps Swasey we'll continue to get our a$$ kicked at the line of scrimmage. That guy needs to go too.

Most of the players that leave for NFl come back out to work with Swasey. Golden came in with his own plan to make the players fat and slow. That's not on Swasey


Biggest myth in Miami history. Some of the skill players come back and work with Swasey. Name me a lineman that does. He is ok with Speed and Agility training. That's about it. Also South Beach and good weather play a part in those players coming back as well.

Someone asked me about Swasey the other week and that's exactly what I said. He's good at speed training but when it comes to the weight lifting and pure strength... Ehh

my friend tried to tell me Sawsy wasnt the problem, it's what golden wanted. I replied "what was the excuse under shannon?"
 
Butch turns 64 this year. Will turn 65 during the season next year.

If Saban wanted to come to Miami, I would have similar concerns. I believe the reason Saban didn't take the Texas job last year is because he didn't want to press re-set at his age.

Keeping the train on the track at 65 is different than building the track at 65 ...

And beyond that ... Butch Davis is not even close to being the football coach Nick Saban is.

Butch is more "Mack Brown", than "Nick Saban" ...

Y'all are gonna be really disappointed.

Just like Golden didn't get fired last year, Butch is not getting hired this year.

They are absolutely not hiring a coach who already has his exit strategy in place before he's coached a game, or especially, secured a staff.

This thread is pandering to the masses, IMO, and the OP has given enough caveats to wiggle out of this post when we hire someone other than Butch.

About the only thing that might be accurate is that Butch has been so aggressive in his pursuit, combined with fan support, that he's now a legit candidate to be a fall back option.

But this scenario is like recruiting. The coaches UM REALLY wants are still in season. So, they can't go after them, and those coaches can't be active in their pursuit of the job. But when they've played their last regular season game, their interest will increase. And from there, they'll decide who really has a legit interest, and who's using UM for leverage.

I'll state again ... If this university hires a coach who NO ONE ELSE wants, be it Butch, Chud, Schiano, or Cristobal, it will be the laziest and most uninspiring search ever ...

If Blake James hires Butch because Paul Dimare tells him to, then this athletics program is finished! What the **** does Paul Dimare know?

There is a reason why football owners, who sign the checks, hire front office people to make these calls.

SMH ...

Butch is not getting the job, IMO.

And if I'm wrong ... It's over for the program.

A place built on innovation and pushing the envelope would be hiring a 65 year old guy who doesn't innovate or push the envelope. And if the OP is accurate, he's already got an exit strategy, and thinks we should hire a guy to replace him who went 27-47 as an HC, and was 3-9 in the year he was fired.

I simply can't believe the people making this decision will be that lazy to turn the keys over to Butch and Mario, hoping 1 guy is the same as he was 20 years ago, but hoping the other guy is significantly better than he was 5 years ago ...

He is 63. And saban is 64. So if saban said miami i want the job, you wouldn't hire saban?

I've known you to be a Butch hater since the news broke, but c'mon man...really? Not taking Nick Saban b/c he's 64? Dude, my respect level for you has just dropped about 100, no 1000 folds.
 
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I think the HCIW concept would work against us with recruiting and it only leads to issues (see jizzbo and bubba)
 
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begs the question - would any of the Butch supporters jump off the wagon if he indeed brings Mario in as HCIW? Just curious.

No, that's actually the only way I would want mario here. Learn from butch for 5 6 years, butch retires, continuity.
 
Y'all are gonna be really disappointed.

Just like Golden didn't get fired last year, Butch is not getting hired this year.

They are absolutely not hiring a coach who already has his exit strategy in place before he's coached a game, or especially, secured a staff.

This thread is pandering to the masses, IMO, and the OP has given enough caveats to wiggle out of this post when we hire someone other than Butch.

About the only thing that might be accurate is that Butch has been so aggressive in his pursuit, combined with fan support, that he's now a legit candidate to be a fall back option.

But this scenario is like recruiting. The coaches UM REALLY wants are still in season. So, they can't go after them, and those coaches can't be active in their pursuit of the job. But when they've played their last regular season game, their interest will increase. And from there, they'll decide who really has a legit interest, and who's using UM for leverage.

I'll state again ... If this university hires a coach who NO ONE ELSE wants, be it Butch, Chud, Schiano, or Cristobal, it will be the laziest and most uninspiring search ever ...

If Blake James hires Butch because Paul Dimare tells him to, then this athletics program is finished! What the **** does Paul Dimare know?

There is a reason why football owners, who sign the checks, hire front office people to make these calls.

SMH ...

Butch is not getting the job, IMO.

And if I'm wrong ... It's over for the program.

A place built on innovation and pushing the envelope would be hiring a 65 year old guy who doesn't innovate or push the envelope. And if the OP is accurate, he's already got an exit strategy, and thinks we should hire a guy to replace him who went 27-47 as an HC, and was 3-9 in the year he was fired.

I simply can't believe the people making this decision will be that lazy to turn the keys over to Butch and Mario, hoping 1 guy is the same as he was 20 years ago, but hoping the other guy is significantly better than he was 5 years ago ...


Didn't believe a word written


Yeah man I really have the time to make all of that up, be my guest.

Just for a reference, everything I said is the same D$ has heard too if you need someone with a little more reputation under him.
 
I have no issue with the HCIW title. Cristobal will a hot commodity once we start winning agan and leave to be a HC somewhere else (hopefully)
 
I don't think the HCIW will be exactly that, Mario just needs some quality HC experience and he can learn a lot from Butch more than with Saban
 
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