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MiamiInvestor said:
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Them boys gotta go touch that green ahh Georgia grass :roll-canes2::roll-canes2:
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DMoney said:
The dirty secret about Georgia is that their talent has fallen off. They have players but lack true impact guys. Kirby Smart should be a COTY candidate for winning the conference with that roster.
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I’d say most of their talent is better than average, but not elite. I’d have to check the NFL draft projections, but I don’t know how many bulldogs are rated to go in the first or second round compared to previous seasons.
 
DMoney said:
The dirty secret about Georgia is that their talent has fallen off. They have players but lack true impact guys. Kirby Smart should be a COTY candidate for winning the conference with that roster.
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They remind me of us 2005/6 and after when we were a big star ***** but the culture sucked, kids were all out for themselves, and a lot of the guys were overrated talents.
 
caneingville said:
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They remind me of us 2005/6 and after when we were a big star ***** but the culture sucked, kids were all out for themselves, and a lot of the guys were overrated talents.
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I'd say Bama or Clemson qualifies far more as the equivalent of '05/'06 Miami - teams where the players were just there to go to the NFL and practices are more or less a country club, and where the coaches coast off previous successes.

UGA's "worst season" in the last 5 was missing out on the CFP in 2023 even though they went 12-1; that was also the last year of the 4-team CFP. They're not as dominant as they were, but they're still a really good team that's held back by Mike Bobo.
 
Brickell said:
I'd say Bama or Clemson qualifies far more as the equivalent of '05/'06 Miami - teams where the players were just there to go to the NFL and practices are more or less a country club, and where the coaches coast off previous successes.

UGA's "worst season" in the last 5 was missing out on the CFP in 2023 even though they went 12-1; that was also the last year of the 4-team CFP. They're not as dominant as they were, but they're still a really good team that's held back by Mike Bobo.
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I was talking specifically about the talent, meaning the players. I see where I worded the culture part badly (sorry it’s late!). I was just referring to the culture of kids who are only out for themselves. For a time back then, we got stuck recruiting those types, and UGA has a lot of those types as well.

But yes, I absolutely see what you’re saying as well and I do agree with you. Your point about Bama and Clemson also makes a lot of sense. The Clemson one particularly intrigued me, especially because Dabo just canned their OC and a lot of their fanbase is getting a bit unruly.

But do you see Dabo as running the country club akin to how Coker was? Or do you just mean that things are falling apart? Curious to know your thoughts on what their future is.
 
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caneingville said:
I was talking specifically about the talent, meaning the players. I see where I worded the culture part badly (sorry it’s late!). I was just referring to the culture of kids who are only out for themselves. For a time back then, we got stuck recruiting those types, and UGA has a lot of those types as well.

But yes, I absolutely see what you’re saying as well and I do agree with you. Your point about Bama and Clemson also makes a lot of sense. The Clemson one particularly intrigued me, especially because Dabo just canned their OC and a lot of their fanbase is getting a bit unruly.

But do you see Dabo as running the country club akin to how Coker was? Or do you just mean that things are falling apart? Curious to know your thoughts on what their future is.
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I mean that Clemson seems stuck in the past, just as we were in 2005 where coaching-wise we were stuck with the boring, plodding Coker-T offense. Most of Dabo's staff are former Clemson players, and it creates an atmosphere where innovation doesn't happen.

I don't think Dabo isn't working those guys hard in practice, but it just seems like Clemson isn't what they were in 2015-2020. Unless Dabo has a Damacus moment when it comes to the portal and innovating the program, Clemson is gonna be what we were - mediocre and irrelevant.

Alabama does seem to be a victim of the country club mentality, look at Indiana mauling them! DeBoer is a good coach, but there's a softness and lack of physicality with his Bama team that the Saban teams never had - notice how since Deboer has got there Bama can't run the ball.
 
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Brickell said:
I mean that Clemson seems stuck in the past, just as we were in 2005 where coaching-wise we were stuck with the boring, plodding Coker-T offense. Most of Dabo's staff are former Clemson players, and it creates an atmosphere where innovation doesn't happen.

I don't think Dabo isn't working those guys hard in practice, but it just seems like Clemson isn't what they were in 2015-2020. Unless Dabo has a Damacus moment when it comes to the portal and innovating the program, Clemson is gonna be what we were - mediocre and irrelevant.

Alabama does seem to be a victim of the country club mentality, look at Indiana mauled them! DeBoer is a good coach, but there's a softness and lack of physicality with his Bama team that the Saban teams never had - notice how since Deboer has got there Bama can't run the ball.
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Okay, yes. I definitely agree with all of that. Will be interesting to see who Dabo hires for the new OC. I was surprised that he didn’t make the change earlier.

And absolutely! I honestly didn’t even think they were going to make it past OU though, so I wasn’t really that surprised to see Cignetti do his thing. 😂
 
FrancisSawyer said:
@DMoney

What do you think of this matchup? What do you think of Chambliss against our defense?
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Chambliss will be a challenge because of his mobility. He can move like Reed but is a better passer.
We need to make them one dimensional by taking away the run. Then maintain our lanes when we rush. He will break contain and get some yards but we need to limit the big plays.
 
Brickell said:
I mean that Clemson seems stuck in the past, just as we were in 2005 where coaching-wise we were stuck with the boring, plodding Coker-T offense. Most of Dabo's staff are former Clemson players, and it creates an atmosphere where innovation doesn't happen.

I don't think Dabo isn't working those guys hard in practice, but it just seems like Clemson isn't what they were in 2015-2020. Unless Dabo has a Damacus moment when it comes to the portal and innovating the program, Clemson is gonna be what we were - mediocre and irrelevant.

Alabama does seem to be a victim of the country club mentality, look at Indiana mauling them! DeBoer is a good coach, but there's a softness and lack of physicality with his Bama team that the Saban teams never had - notice how since Deboer has got there Bama can't run the ball.
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Not only can they not run the ball, they can’t rush the passer since he got there as well. Definitely a finesse team now and that won’t get it done in the CFP.
 
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Look at the Final 4 teams. This is what NIL and the portal has done. This would have never happened without it. NIL and the portal ended dynasties. I was pulling for UGA the whole game as I expected us to beat them.
This no huddle tempo is a bad matchup for us. Bain and Mesi are going to have to come out more. This tempo won't allow us to get our worn out players off the field. We better have Damari back. Our LB's are going to be spread out and stuck in coverage worn out. Ole Miss wouldn't be here without no huddle tempo. I don't like our offense having to score 30 to win. I just don't like this matchup and I haven't watched any tape. I hope I see something different on tape. Go Canes!
 
DMoney said:
The dirty secret about Georgia is that their talent has fallen off. They have players but lack true impact guys. Kirby Smart should be a COTY candidate for winning the conference with that roster.
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I agree the talent has fallen off (no longer a super team) but they’re sitting at an insane 84% blue chip ratio.

Their issue is coaching and development at this point (and not maximizing portal). Kirby is becoming a less with more guy just like Riley.
 
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