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Canezum5 said:
There are people Blaming the entire game on Beck is unfair and its way to easy a scapegoat for these coaches. I refuse to allow Dawson and Cuckobal off that easy.

Them boys got flat out outclassed. Louisville staff was all over all of our tendencies. Every single one . They knew our **** better than we did.

This loss is on the staff. Period. Dawson has no idea when to reel back all that vertical air raid **** and just make it simple for his QB. He will force his BS all game even tho every QB he coaches struggles against 2 high safety looks that roll coverages pre to post snap. Every single QB . Even Cam did. But this dude doesn't adjust. He keeps running routes into heavy coverage with checkdowns 30 yards away from the **** pocket.
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LuCane said:
This was the quintessential ‘switch rosters and see what happens’ game. They ran crossers. They got Brown in space on unexpected run plays. They isolated our LBs in coverage. They have a very good WR, but if he came over to us, who knows what we’d ask him to do. Oh, sure, the Rams condense their formations and have WRs lined tight to block. This isn’t the motherfarking NFL. We don’t need to get ourselves into a deep hole before we see a jet sweep. PUNCH FIRST.

Or, whatever, just don’t do anything stupid and hold on for dear life. It worked against ND, barely, and UF and FSU. Therefore, it’s a sustainable strategy.

Bizarre that multi-million dollar professionals fail to see the flaws in that line of thinking.
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You're right, unequivocally 💯
 
skeeter said:
I would argue Beck was WAY TOO AGGRESSIVE…Throwing deep into quadruple coverage when you have 15 EASY in the flat?
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His bad decisions and bad throws aren’t what I’m referring to. I’m requesting a more aggressive strategy and approach to play design and play calling. Did you see Louisville’s Bell repeatedly running free on crossers? Did you see their very mid TE find wide open spots? Did you see their RB who had struggled this year in spurts have car lane gaps on unexpected runs?

Err on the side of taking it to your opponent via strategy and design. Beck’s panic mode has little to do with this. Like I’ve long said, he’s a QB for whom you have to design plays - not one who will break script and do well. He hasn’t shown that. Why should we expect that other than unmerited hype?
 
LuCane said:
During a recent interview, I listened to Dawson say this a couple of times. I argued it’s a really dangerous place from which to base a strategy or ‘fall back on.’

Something about erring on the side of caution and conservatism in football just seems unnatural. It often ends in failure - like prevent defenses.

Sure, Beck had a miserable game tonight. He played tentative on many plays, had errant throws, and struggled with pressure. But, this is who he has shown to be and therefore you have to get ahead of it. The entire design of the offense has to be to err on the side of aggression. Especially when you don’t have a QB who’s going to magically bring you back (maybe the opposite when placed into those situations).

I’m skeptical we’ll make those changes. Hope something unexpected happens. Reality is painful. Latching on to fake hype is worse.
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And with the fact we have one game breaker at WR…one guy that can beat his man

As much as Dawson annoys me at times, he's probably right. This isn't a high risk, let it fly offense…We can't make mistakes. We have to run the ball better though.
 
Kind of reminds me of a prior regime, I think it was Manny, who would constantly say the next game, every game, was gonna be a dogfight. Any chance we got we’d preach how you can expect the games to be close. Every press conference seemed to be the same talk, how the conference slate was so difficult and you can expect a tight game down to the end.

I always thought that messaging was counterproductive. It’s okay to aim for kicking someone’s ***. not sure you want to program the team to always expect a tight one. Never liked it.
 
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Canezum5 said:
This is when you know they're all over our tendencies.

Brohm Ran the ball on like 3rd and 12 CAUSE he KNEW Hetherman would line Bain and Mesidor up in the same side. Results? First down. I mean sheesh. Hetherman held it down best he could but whole staff got spanked
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I don’t know that any one play ****ed me off more than that one.
 
gogeta4 said:
this is what shocked me....the bolded.

it was almost like he or the defensive staff didnt realize bell goes for 100 every **** game.
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Coaches can fall for the "rat poison" just like players. Sometimes a couple months of telling you you're the next Steve Spagnuolo or Buddy Ryan and you start thinking you can out-scheme common sense.

Or you see your players have success doing something for a few games and start making decisions assuming they will always have success doing those things and don't prepare for the night when your corners can't cover anybody or when your vaunted pass rush isn't as vaunted.
 
LuCane said:
His bad decisions and bad throws aren’t what I’m referring to. I’m requesting a more aggressive strategy and approach to play design and play calling. Did you see Louisville’s Bell repeatedly running free on crossers? Did you see their very mid TE find wide open spots? Did you see their RB who had struggled this year in spurts have car lane gaps on unexpected runs?

Err on the side of taking it to your opponent via strategy and design. Beck’s panic mode has little to do with this. Like I’ve long said, he’s a QB for whom you have to design plays - not one who will break script and do well. He hasn’t shown that. Why should we expect that other than unmerited hype?
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Bro we could do literally anything other than just run condensed formations with tight splits and spam runs up the gut, and I'm confident it'd lead to better offensive output.

But absoultely we need to be more aggressive. I don't even hate how our overall pass game has been this year. I wasn't expecting a whole lot different than what we've seen. To me it all starts and ends with the run game. Like I said from pre-season this run scheme allows zero big explosive runs. With Beck and this passing attack you actually have to be a complete idiot to think we were going to be as explosive in the passing game as we were last year with Ward. To not have known going into this season that we needed a more advanced run game and to generate explosive run plays is coaching malpractice, straight up. And even worse we actually are being even MORE conservative in our running plan this season over even last year! I am honestly baffled at our Run game. This **** has been our biggest offensive issue for 2 years now, and I knew it was going to be critical this offseason to get explosive runs, yet we've gone the complete Opposite direction we should have. We should have an extremely aggressive running scheme to pair with Beck who can just dink and dunk and then take some shot plays a handful of times per game.
 
LuCane said:
This was the quintessential ‘switch rosters and see what happens’ game. They ran crossers. They got Brown in space on unexpected run plays. They isolated our LBs in coverage. They have a very good WR, but if he came over to us, who knows what we’d ask him to do. Oh, sure, the Rams condense their formations and have WRs lined tight to block. This isn’t the motherfarking NFL. We don’t need to get ourselves into a deep hole before we see a jet sweep. PUNCH FIRST.

Or, whatever, just don’t do anything stupid and hold on for dear life. It worked against ND, barely, and UF and FSU. Therefore, it’s a sustainable strategy.

Bizarre that multi-million dollar professionals fail to see the flaws in that line of thinking.
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Thank you!! Wish I could like a hundred times.
 
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gogeta4 said:
5 lineman to block a screaming 7 or 8 should 100 percent work. lol

Keep in mind none of our tes to me are really good inline blockers whatsoever. So i wouldnt even count them....and a qb not a threat to run....3 yards and a cloud of dust baby...less than that when lbs are screaming downhill on rn blitzes because its painfully obvious what we are about to run and guards cant get to them
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I find it bizarre people don’t want to acknowledge this. When you have defenses loading up to destroy your predictable run game, go ahead and blame the…. OL?
 
TwentySix said:
I don’t know that any one play ****ed me off more than that one.
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Yeah man. That play had me ready to turn the TV off and go straight to sleep. It deflated tf outta me. **** the constant blitzing to start the game, when it was evident from the first few plays they were going to nullify our dline, really ****ed me off. Hetherman did his best. Brohm is a tough out. Hopefully he learned a valuable lesson
 
Canezum5 said:
There are people Blaming the entire game on Beck is unfair and its way to easy a scapegoat for these coaches. I refuse to allow Dawson and Cuckobal off that easy.

Them boys got flat out outclassed. Louisville staff was all over all of our tendencies. Every single one . They knew our **** better than we did.

This loss is on the staff. Period. Dawson has no idea when to reel back all that vertical air raid **** and just make it simple for his QB. He will force his BS all game even tho every QB he coaches struggles against 2 high safety looks that roll coverages pre to post snap. Every single QB . Even Cam did. But this dude doesn't adjust. He keeps running routes into heavy coverage with checkdowns 30 yards away from the **** pocket.
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This.

From the first snap.
 
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