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Willie Bailey transferring from UF; Miami interested
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I don't see Bailey as an instance impact guy. I do think he could provide future depth. Truth be told though, SF is never short of really talented skill position players so this should NOT be a huge issue for Canes.
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When he was being recruited there was talk that he had serious upside at S if he was able to put on some weight. Obviously there is plenty of need there for us.
Yeah, you're right, he may never be a difference maker on any team and I could be wrong, but the problem with a lot of people in this fan base is they adopt this thought to players still on the team (Briscoe is a prime example). I'm not saying we should take him, but if Al & Co. have interest in him, they must see something there. If they thought he was JAG, they wouldn't reciprocate the interest.
It's funny how often people disagree on these boards but can still fall back on "you know what I trust Al"
Been a long time since we saw that. It's just such a ****ed up time for this team it's impossible for us fans to really have a grasp on things, which I guess is what sparks all the debate. All good though.
Yeah, JHALL I meant to say this shouldn't be a huge issue for Canes. If he comes ok, if not, ok.
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Like I said we have an incredibly illogical fan base.
Can we also acknowledge that it is not smart to take in transfers with scholarship reductions.
This is better than your post before it. Good stuff.
How would he NOT be an upgrade in depth? We have one recruit this year at safety, possibly 2. So Carter adds one player, Burns if he plays safety would be 2. Lets say burns plays safety.
Deon Bush- SO
Rayshawn Jenkins- SO
AJ- SR
Rodgers- SR
Thats who we have running out next fall. The year after, if Bailey isnt granted a waiver, he would give us 5 Safeties instead of 4. Without him, we'd be an injury away from throwing in ANOTHER true freshman safety from the 2014 class, and not every true freshman can come in and play like Deon Bush.
So yes, he would instantly upgrade our depth. He's immediately better than Rodgers and AJ, and I don't even know how good he is. He just can't be that bad. If he ends here, cool. If not, cool. I trust in the staff to make the right decision. I don't even know what everyones stance is on him, but saying he wouldn't help with depth is incorrect.
And get off your ivory tower talking about 'this fanbase I swear'. You're a part of the fanbase and your pseudo-intellectual crap doesn't actually mean you know anything. But please, tell me more about how wrong I am..
all of this. and he also spent the season learning the gators defense and could come in handy when we play them.
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He cant play next year so he has no impact on the 2013 depth chart. Lets not speak for 2014 because we have no idea what that would look like.
We don't know if he gets a waiver so lets not speak on 2013 because we have no idea what that would look like.
Why would he get a waiver? Most kids dont. Fine then dont talk about this kid coming here next year.
This. Can't imagine how bad we would have been those two years without Brock falling into our laps.
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this is a thread about him transferring, potentially here. seems like a good reason to speculate on that IMO.
I'm still curious as to why you don't think he instantly upgrades the depth. Even without a waiver, I'll just say he doesnt have a waiver for the sake of this argument, isn't he more talented than AJ and Rodgers? Theoretically, competition begets improvement. With that, wouldn't he force these JAGs to up their play? No he wouldn't play, but he would practice. IJS.
And if he got a waiver, wouldn't you feel more confident trotting him out over one of those guys?
My first post was at 3 or 4 am and I was hammered drunk. i don't know why saying 'eat a fat ****' was so personal to you that you felt the need to respond. But here we are. So, why wouldn't he help all things considered? Bush, Jenkins, Carter, Burns would be our DC in 2014. We'll have a 5th safety sanctions or not. Would it really be a waste? He would have at least 2 years left to play. Why not take this kid?
The fan base post was just a smartass retort to the other poster who said the same thing.
My point is you can't just say "eat a ****" and expect to be taken seriously so why are you surprised?
Your other post brings up solid points so why not go with that in the first place?
Again I'm not "against" him being here just bringing up why I would personally pass but again depends on a lot of factors.
No ivory tower here man.
LOL just read your other post about being hammered. I shoulda looked at the time stamp.
its all good man. You're right I shouldn't have said that, but at 3 or 4 am I tend to just hip-fire whatever I feel like. Probably should have made a better point but at the time I wasn't capable of it. My B
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Yeah man all good. Talking about this team gets me ****ed enough when I am sober.
The definition of instant means right away or now. The kid likely cant play right away so it isnt an instant upgrade but it could be a future upgrade. Like I said several times
1. Transfers and sanctions dont mix and
2. He likely wont get a waiver.
This is why this is a non-issue. Also i didnt even get into the fact muschamp wont likely allow him to transfer here and we arent 100 percent sure the staff wants him.
So that stops the instant upgrade argument.
Personal, you cant offend me. This is a message board and I dont know you at all. I dont take anything you say personal.
As for baileys skill and talent... I dont give a **** because sanctions and transfers dont mix. I am sure Al is aware how much more important roster mgmt is when there are more restrictions. I trust Al so whatever he does will be the right thing.
Oh and by the way a player that can contribute in 2013 will do more (even if he sucks) then Bailey could for the canes because of the transfer rule. Give me an extra kid in 2013 over the transfer...because we dont know how either would do in 2014 when Bailey could play for the first time.
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I could almost agree with you if the kid wasn't a 2012 recruit. He should have 4 years to play 4, so in this case I don't think sanctions would matter. If Golden thinks he is talented enough its worth it to bring him on. He wouldn't hinder our depth because he has some time left to play.
As for the waiver, we don't know. We also don't know if muschamp would put a restriction on him. We're just speculating.
So you're not of the belief that by having him practice for a year it wouldn't possibly elevate someone like highsmiths or rodgers play? Not saying it does, its just a possibility. Watching another player ball out and pick the system up might motivate someone to pick their game up. I suppose instant upgrade is a reach from your POV, but I like the idea of having a kid that talented transfer here, waiver or not, and it making a positive impact on our secondary from day 1.
But you think for 2014 he'd be a waste? As it stands now, we would only have 4 scholarship safeties for that year. We're an injury away from not having a 2 Deep at that position. We need 5, so why not take a guy thats played some SEC football and has some talent? Please explain your "transfers and sanctions don't mix" rule if you're going to say that again.
I dont think you get what I am saying.
