The Work - Canes Camp #5

The Work - Canes Camp #5

Peter Ariz
Peter Ariz

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I wish no one would interview Golden ever again! He just comes across as an idiot and full of crap. I pulling for these kids, but can't help but think, "what if", we had secured just a few more local recruits.
 
St. Louis is a future first round pick - he has that much talent.

I pray he realizes that talent early because we could really use this kid at LT so Darling can slide over to RT and McDermott inside to LG.
 
Sonny has come a long way. I've been a doubter, but he looks much improved early in camp.

The spot that really concerns me is LG.

Who do you think the startin 5 will be week 1?
 
whooping cane strike again

mod should banned this clown
 
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**Some fans had hope that Miami would speed up the pace of their offense, which was statistically one of the slowest in college football last season. Al Golden says that is not something he is concerned with, rather he would like to see an improvement on 3rd downs, where the Canes ranked 92nd in the country in conversion rate.

“I’m not interested in that (tempo). I think for us, our time of possession was good. I think we needed to convert a couple more on third down, which would have tilted it in our favor…I think our pace was right where we wanted it to be. We mixed it up the way we wanted to, but that wasn’t the issue,” said Golden.


Golden is so out of touch with SFla and college football in general. Playing with that slow of a tempo when he has direct access to the best skill position players in the US is so ridiculous. The job is so far over his head, he is completely clueless.
 
Can we please stop beginning every piece with al golden quotes? It makes it difficult to get to the rest of the article.

It really does. I'll read a quote, grab the trashcan, and puke.

Wipe my mouth, read another, grab the trash can, and puke.

Every Golden quote.

Pete, the less we hear from Golden, the easier your narratives are to read - and you're doing great.

I think we all know what comes out of Golden's mouth is the same thing that come out of a horse's ***.

Except worser.
 
Sonny has come a long way. I've been a doubter, but he looks much improved early in camp.

The spot that really concerns me is LG.

Agree With Sonny the issue was always that he had no idea what he was doing. In his limited game time reps it always looked like he was still thinking about his assignment after the ball was snapped.

Physically, he has an NFL Hall Of Fame body, if his football I.Q. ever comes close to his physical gifts watch out.
 
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whooping cane strike again

mod should banned this clown


I tried. Twice.

But each time I was laughing so hard at his posts that I hit the wrong button.

Are you sure it was the right poster "whooping cane"

This trolls are on this site

Anyway, I can't believe we kicked Gadbois off the team for being a jerk. Kind of ***** on the offensive lines.
 
**Some fans had hope that Miami would speed up the pace of their offense, which was statistically one of the slowest in college football last season. Al Golden says that is not something he is concerned with, rather he would like to see an improvement on 3rd downs, where the Canes ranked 92nd in the country in conversion rate.

“I’m not interested in that (tempo). I think for us, our time of possession was good. I think we needed to convert a couple more on third down, which would have tilted it in our favor…I think our pace was right where we wanted it to be. We mixed it up the way we wanted to, but that wasn’t the issue,” said Golden.


Golden is so out of touch with SFla and college football in general. Playing with that slow of a tempo when he has direct access to the best skill position players in the US is so ridiculous. The job is so far over his head, he is completely clueless.


He had a highly drafted LT, WR, RB, TE and a 4th round OG and saw fit to run the 104th most plays in college football.

I don't think a head coach has ever been a worse fit for a program. You have a guy in the home of NFL talent and speed choosing to run a 1940's Big 10 offense. It's infuriating.
 
whooping cane strike again

mod should banned this clown


I tried. Twice.

But each time I was laughing so hard at his posts that I hit the wrong button.

Are you sure it was the right poster "whooping cane"

This trolls are on this site

Anyway, I can't believe we kicked Gadbois off the team for being a jerk. Kind of ***** on the offensive lines.




Everyone gets a trophy here on CanesInsight.com :topsy_turvy:
 
the idea that pace automatically equates to good offense is stupid. ohio state was not a fast paced team last year. florida state was not a fast paced team in 2013. alabama has never been fast. stanford has never been fast. wisconsin has never been fast. all these teams have good offenses. you can have a very good offense in college w/o playing fast. playing fast for the sake of playing fast doesn't really accomplish anything.

and, btw, most people in this thread don't understand why you would go fast, and in fact have it backwards. if you have a bad defense, you actually want more plays, because it introduces more randomness and chance into the game. this is why no huddle & spread offenses started at smaller schools with less talent, because it was a way of trying to even out the game. this is also, i assume, why golden ran some no huddle when stephen morris was the quarterback. our defense was bad, and you don't want a slow game when you have a bad defense.

last year, our defense was better. some stats even say it was good (like a lot of you, i'm less sold on that notion, though far more positive than most detractors here). part of the reason why we played so slowly was because of a freshman qb, but it was also because the defense was solid.

in the grand scheme of things, pace of play isn't really that important. if the offense executes well on every play, it doesn't really matter if you go fast or slow.

buddy, don't try to make sense to these clowns on this board.

they are just cancer. toxic.
 
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the idea that pace automatically equates to good offense is stupid. ohio state was not a fast paced team last year. florida state was not a fast paced team in 2013. alabama has never been fast. stanford has never been fast. wisconsin has never been fast. all these teams have good offenses. you can have a very good offense in college w/o playing fast. playing fast for the sake of playing fast doesn't really accomplish anything.

and, btw, most people in this thread don't understand why you would go fast, and in fact have it backwards. if you have a bad defense, you actually want more plays, because it introduces more randomness and chance into the game. this is why no huddle & spread offenses started at smaller schools with less talent, because it was a way of trying to even out the game. this is also, i assume, why golden ran some no huddle when stephen morris was the quarterback. our defense was bad, and you don't want a slow game when you have a bad defense.

last year, our defense was better. some stats even say it was good (like a lot of you, i'm less sold on that notion, though far more positive than most detractors here). part of the reason why we played so slowly was because of a freshman qb, but it was also because the defense was solid.

in the grand scheme of things, pace of play isn't really that important. if the offense executes well on every play, it doesn't really matter if you go fast or slow.

buddy, don't try to make sense to these clowns on this board.

they are just cancer. toxic.

He's not your buddy....pal.
 
**Some fans had hope that Miami would speed up the pace of their offense, which was statistically one of the slowest in college football last season. Al Golden says that is not something he is concerned with, rather he would like to see an improvement on 3rd downs, where the Canes ranked 92nd in the country in conversion rate.

“I’m not interested in that (tempo). I think for us, our time of possession was good. I think we needed to convert a couple more on third down, which would have tilted it in our favor…I think our pace was right where we wanted it to be. We mixed it up the way we wanted to, but that wasn’t the issue,” said Golden.


Golden is so out of touch with SFla and college football in general. Playing with that slow of a tempo when he has direct access to the best skill position players in the US is so ridiculous. The job is so far over his head, he is completely clueless.


He had a highly drafted LT, WR, RB, TE and a 4th round OG and saw fit to run the 104th most plays in college football.

I don't think a head coach has ever been a worse fit for a program. You have a guy in the home of NFL talent and speed choosing to run a 1940's Big 10 offense. It's infuriating.

No doubt.

And according to this site we were 120th out of 128 team in plays run per game.

https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/stat/plays-per-game
 
the idea that pace automatically equates to good offense is stupid. ohio state was not a fast paced team last year. florida state was not a fast paced team in 2013. alabama has never been fast. stanford has never been fast. wisconsin has never been fast. all these teams have good offenses. you can have a very good offense in college w/o playing fast. playing fast for the sake of playing fast doesn't really accomplish anything.

and, btw, most people in this thread don't understand why you would go fast, and in fact have it backwards. if you have a bad defense, you actually want more plays, because it introduces more randomness and chance into the game. this is why no huddle & spread offenses started at smaller schools with less talent, because it was a way of trying to even out the game. this is also, i assume, why golden ran some no huddle when stephen morris was the quarterback. our defense was bad, and you don't want a slow game when you have a bad defense.

last year, our defense was better. some stats even say it was good (like a lot of you, i'm less sold on that notion, though far more positive than most detractors here). part of the reason why we played so slowly was because of a freshman qb, but it was also because the defense was solid.

in the grand scheme of things, pace of play isn't really that important. if the offense executes well on every play, it doesn't really matter if you go fast or slow.

buddy, don't try to make sense to these clowns on this board.

they are just cancer. toxic.

We ranked 120th in plays run per game. Roughly the same as Temple, Maryland, Rutgers and Eastern Michigan.

If it makes me "cancer" to expect the coaching staff to experiment with, I don't know, running more plays in order to get out of the same category as 2 MAC schools and 2 middle tier B1G schools, than I guess I'm cancer.
 
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--Golden said he believes it is more difficult for a defense to have to defend just one speed, which is why he does not want the offense to just go full speed ahead every play.

“I think from our standpoint, just being a defensive coordinator, it’s much harder to defend multiple tempos than it is to defend one tempo. So I believe in multiple tempos, multiple groupings.”

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From the video on canesport the quotes is how Golden said it.. I would ignore the top analysis from pete he completely butchered it. Never said it was more difficult to defend one speed. Mixed up his use of words
 
**Some fans had hope that Miami would speed up the pace of their offense, which was statistically one of the slowest in college football last season. Al Golden says that is not something he is concerned with, rather he would like to see an improvement on 3rd downs, where the Canes ranked 92nd in the country in conversion rate.

“I’m not interested in that (tempo). I think for us, our time of possession was good. I think we needed to convert a couple more on third down, which would have tilted it in our favor…I think our pace was right where we wanted it to be. We mixed it up the way we wanted to, but that wasn’t the issue,” said Golden.


Golden is so out of touch with SFla and college football in general. Playing with that slow of a tempo when he has direct access to the best skill position players in the US is so ridiculous. The job is so far over his head, he is completely clueless.


He had a highly drafted LT, WR, RB, TE and a 4th round OG and saw fit to run the 104th most plays in college football.

I don't think a head coach has ever been a worse fit for a program. You have a guy in the home of NFL talent and speed choosing to run a 1940's Big 10 offense. It's infuriating.

No doubt.

And according to this site we were 120th out of 128 team in plays run per game.

https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/stat/plays-per-game

Was just posting about the same thing. Be ready for the attack of the Super Fans.
 
the idea that pace automatically equates to good offense is stupid. ohio state was not a fast paced team last year. florida state was not a fast paced team in 2013. alabama has never been fast. stanford has never been fast. wisconsin has never been fast. all these teams have good offenses. you can have a very good offense in college w/o playing fast. playing fast for the sake of playing fast doesn't really accomplish anything.

and, btw, most people in this thread don't understand why you would go fast, and in fact have it backwards. if you have a bad defense, you actually want more plays, because it introduces more randomness and chance into the game. this is why no huddle & spread offenses started at smaller schools with less talent, because it was a way of trying to even out the game. this is also, i assume, why golden ran some no huddle when stephen morris was the quarterback. our defense was bad, and you don't want a slow game when you have a bad defense.

last year, our defense was better. some stats even say it was good (like a lot of you, i'm less sold on that notion, though far more positive than most detractors here). part of the reason why we played so slowly was because of a freshman qb, but it was also because the defense was solid.

in the grand scheme of things, pace of play isn't really that important. if the offense executes well on every play, it doesn't really matter if you go fast or slow.

Either way you gotta score. They don't award points for possessing the ball.
 
the idea that pace automatically equates to good offense is stupid. ohio state was not a fast paced team last year. florida state was not a fast paced team in 2013. alabama has never been fast. stanford has never been fast. wisconsin has never been fast. all these teams have good offenses. you can have a very good offense in college w/o playing fast. playing fast for the sake of playing fast doesn't really accomplish anything.

and, btw, most people in this thread don't understand why you would go fast, and in fact have it backwards. if you have a bad defense, you actually want more plays, because it introduces more randomness and chance into the game. this is why no huddle & spread offenses started at smaller schools with less talent, because it was a way of trying to even out the game. this is also, i assume, why golden ran some no huddle when stephen morris was the quarterback. our defense was bad, and you don't want a slow game when you have a bad defense.

last year, our defense was better. some stats even say it was good (like a lot of you, i'm less sold on that notion, though far more positive than most detractors here). part of the reason why we played so slowly was because of a freshman qb, but it was also because the defense was solid.

in the grand scheme of things, pace of play isn't really that important. if the offense executes well on every play, it doesn't really matter if you go fast or slow.

[MENTION=5649]rayray[/MENTION]: uh-ruh-hmmm; brotha. Have to disagree with you on your post. Bama's defense is what carried them to two national titles. Their offense was pedestrian, at best, when they won their titles.

Last year, OSU played uptempo. They ran a lot of no-huddle sets and they were extremely efficient at it, as well.

FSU in 2013 also played an uptempo style...no it wasn't Oregon-like, but they put up points in a hurry.

A fast pace gives an offense a competive advantage b/c it warrants more opportunities to possess the ball. However, I do agree with you in the sense that it doesn't necessarily translate to more efficiency. If we're not converting on 3rd downs, then all we are doing is wearing out our defense (see the 2013 season). There's no need to be stagnant like we were, either, last year. When you have a team on the ropes and you hold the ball, it gives them an opportunity to start adjusting to you...hence, we lost many games last year in the 2nd half. We became very predictable, and that's our truest problem...predictability.
 
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