The Work 1-24

Jan 24, 2014

**Yes, Chad Thomas will be at FSU this weekend. Anytime a 5-star commit visits the reigning national champs, there is a valid reason for concern, but Thomas continues to tell me he is solid to Miami, despite his visit plans. I will refer you to a quote he gave me a little over a month ago - “Nah, nah, nah. I’ll never change. I committed to Miami so that’s what I’m gonna do. I’m loyal. I might take another visit just to see other things because I’ve been in Miami for 18 years, but you know I’m locked in with Miami.”

**It is known by now that Tavon Ross will be on campus today and throughout the weekend. Miami feels that getting on him before both Georgia and Alabama has given them the upper-hand here and this weekend could go a long way to landing him.

**What I reported a few weeks ago on the junior college defensive tackles still looks to be the case (http://www.canesinsight.com/threads/61582-HUGE-news-on-the-JUCO-DT-front?highlight=JUCO+DT). Heurtelou is expected to be enrolled today or tomorrow and Wyche is still not expected to be here for Spring. Look for Wyche to stay at JUCO this semester and be here in May.

**My feeling right now on Travonte Valentine is that he will be LSU bound. LSU coaches are very confident that he will be theirs on NSD.

**I expect Miami to be a legitimate player for Lamont Gaillard down the stretch. If he follows through on his visit next weekend, things could get interesting. Miami is on him HARD.

**Darrion Owens is not officially in yet, but he is expected within the next few days. Would be a huge boost for a prospect who is sill raw and could use spring practice.

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WhatTheHell

Jan 24, 2014

So just to clarify, if we do hang on to Valentine, did we outbid LSU, or did Genron release him from his magic spell before turning into a puff of smoke, helping Valentine realize he no longer cared about money?

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Copeseticman

Jan 24, 2014

pb5cane said:
Sapp...Wilfork...TV! Simple as that. Tradition matters to TV.

... and how is LSU's recent track record?

Jan 24, 2014

WhatTheHell said:
So just to clarify, if we do hang on to Valentine, did we outbid LSU, or did Genron release him from his magic spell before turning into a puff of smoke, helping Valentine realize he no longer cared about money?

You should know how this is going to turn out. This scenario has been played out 1 too many times.

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1jamaicancane

Jan 24, 2014

Hmmm a story on LSUs site says that they dont feel comfortable about Dupree either............... they're seemingly losing all the studs except for fournette who walks in as the starter unlike in alabama where he would have to fight for his job but everybody swears they're going to get valentine?

bobbydigius

Jan 24, 2014

Copeseticman said:
pb5cane said:

Sapp...Wilfork...TV! Simple as that. Tradition matters to TV.

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... and how is LSU's recent track record?

At DT.......
Not all that great, at DB, now that is a different story there....

Jan 24, 2014

More from Shea Dixon

Travonte Valentine
247Composite: No. 3 DT, No. 9 in Florida, No. 65 overall
Champagnat Catholic - Hialeah, FL

The Skinny: Valentine backed off his commitment to Miami earlier this month, and ever since, LSU has been pegged as the team with the most momentum. Valentine and his mother will be in Baton Rouge this weekend for the first time, and if all checks out, the Tigers will likely come out of the weekend as the team to beat. But with an NSD announcement planned, the LSU staff will have to survive a final official visit to Miami, which Valentine will make next weekend. Valentine remains LSU’s top priority at defensive tackle.

Thoughtsoncanes

Jan 24, 2014

Complete and utter failure by this staff if we lose TV, regardless of the fahgot rationalizing that's sure to follow from Mediocrity4Life & the rest of the Golden **** Pail Carriers

ScubaCane

Jan 24, 2014

Ugh, does anybody remember when the only time you cared about college football was from Sept to Jan.

Hurracanes

Jan 24, 2014

NVA CANE said:
Lulz at Golden and his ****ty scheme. You can blame money, you can blame Genron, you can make all the excuses, but reality is, Golden's ****ty defense and his prioritizing his relationship with D'Onofrio over the program may cost us an elite recruit at a position we need badly.

Consigliere said:
Hurracanes said:

The Pac 12 is NOT elite.

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Okay. Pretty sure Oregon and Stanford are elite programs and before the sanctions USC was one too.

First of all, three programs do not make a conference. Conferences should be evaluated from top to bottom. Secondly, Stanford is not an elite program. Just stop it. Outside of beating Oregon, what have they done? Who have they beaten? Thirdly, the rest of the conference is not very impressive. I do not expect USC to be relevant any time soon. Additionally, they play very little Defense in the Pac 12.

My definition of elite is quite different than yours.

Jan 24, 2014

Thread Killa said:
More from Shea Dixon

Travonte Valentine
247Composite: No. 3 DT, No. 9 in Florida, No. 65 overall
Champagnat Catholic - Hialeah, FL

The Skinny: Valentine backed off his commitment to Miami earlier this month, and ever since, LSU has been pegged as the team with the most momentum. Valentine and his mother will be in Baton Rouge this weekend for the first time, and if all checks out, the Tigers will likely come out of the weekend as the team to beat. But with an NSD announcement planned, the LSU staff will have to survive a final official visit to Miami, which Valentine will make next weekend. Valentine remains LSU’s top priority at defensive tackle.

You exactly know how this goes. ---Mother has concerns about visiting and seeing her son play because of travel costs. Coach says that's all taken care of and you don't have to worry. They also forget to add that Genron is on the trip aswell.

AG needs to kill it during the OV and final in home if given the opportunity.

PUNCICANE

Jan 24, 2014

Eric Sorensen ‏@sorensen_eric · 23h
@LSUCompliance @NCAA J. Drummond, coach at Champagnat Catholic in Hialeah, FL traveling with recruit and an LSU booster to Baton Rouge #$$$$

Jon Drummond ‏@ManleadingMen · 19h @sorensen_eric that's the biggest lie I've ever heard.

I guess someone is calling him out while tagging the LSU compliance in the allegation...

Haa, little do they know that compliance there is like an accounting department that has to ok the distribution of the illegal funds

CaneStuck@USF

Jan 24, 2014

So TV decommits from UM because Al was supposedly talking with Pedo State. Al says he is staying and has his little meeting with TV, but thats not enough for him to re-commit? And now all of the sudden he is interested in LSU, who's head coach flirts with every single big name job opening every single offseason.

Its pretty clear that something else is going on behind the scenes. I'm not sure what it is exactly, but it doesn't take a genius to see that TV does not want to play for Miami at this moment in time. If losing his head coach was truly his main concern, he certainly wouldn't be looking to partner up with Les Miles.

bobbydigius

Jan 24, 2014

CaneStuck@USF said:
So TV decommits from UM because Al was supposedly talking with Pedo State. Al says he is staying and has his little meeting with TV, but thats not enough for him to re-commit? And now all of the sudden he is interested in LSU, who's head coach flirts with every single big name job opening every single offseason.

Its pretty clear that something else is going on behind the scenes. I'm not sure what it is exactly, but it doesn't take a genius to see that TV does not want to play for Miami at this moment in time. If losing his head coach was truly his main concern, he certainly wouldn't be looking to partner up with Les Miles.

Yeah, except LSU didn't just come into the picture recently.......
They have been there for a while now.

Angry Ibis

Jan 24, 2014

It was the Duke game!!! Genron saw that Miami needed someone on the line to stop Duke and figured LSU was the best place for his player to go to solve that problem. Always looking out for his player and Miami. Guy is like Santa Claus with an Ibis hat.

CANE4LIFE

Jan 24, 2014

PUNCICANE said:
Eric Sorensen ‏@sorensen_eric · 23h
@LSUCompliance @NCAA J. Drummond, coach at Champagnat Catholic in Hialeah, FL traveling with recruit and an LSU booster to Baton Rouge #$$$$

Jon Drummond ‏@ManleadingMen · 19h @sorensen_eric that's the biggest lie I've ever heard.

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I guess someone is calling him out while tagging the LSU compliance in the allegation...

Haa, little do they know that compliance there is like an accounting department that has to ok the distribution of the illegal funds

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bigvort67

Jan 24, 2014

appreciate The WORK Pete...

Consigliere

Jan 24, 2014

Hurracanes said:
First of all, three programs do not make a conference. Conferences should be evaluated from top to bottom. Secondly, Stanford is not an elite program. Just stop it. Outside of beating Oregon, what have they done? Who have they beaten? Thirdly, the rest of the conference is not very impressive. I do not expect USC to be relevant any time soon. Additionally, they play very little Defense in the Pac 12.

My definition of elite is quite different than yours.

The PAC 12 is a very good conference, they are not the SEC but they are pretty darn good.

I stated what Stanford did over the last 4 years to make them elite. They are elite. They have been had tremendous success since 2010 and as a comparison:

Stanford has more wins (since 2010) than LSU and Oklahoma and the same amount as Alabama.

Stanford has the most BCS appearances since 2010. In the last 2 years, they beat 11 top 25 opponents. This includes a #1 team, (2) #2 teams and #9 team.

Since 2010, how many programs are elite?

1. Alabama (duh),
2. FSU,
3. Oregon,
4. LSU, and
5. Oklahoma

The PAC 12 is a very good conference too. Not saying the best but they are very good.

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Angry Ibis

Jan 24, 2014

Consig is bringing the Work here.

Consigliere

Jan 24, 2014

Angry Ibis said:
Consig is bringing the Work here.

Not every team is Alabama and they clearly are the best. But at the same time not many programs (hardly any) have a similar track record as Stanford since 2010.

46 Wins, 4 BCS appearances and 2 Wins. All why changing the HC after 2010, pretty sure elite programs are able to stay on top. Pretty sure elite programs beat top 25 teams routinely (11 times over the last 2 years). Hi, we're Stanford and we're doing a great job.