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PODCAST: Camp wrap-up and talking stadium with Johnny Ruiz

PODCAST: Camp wrap-up and talking stadium with Johnny Ruiz

DMoney

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The fact that there’s a segment of our fans that doesn’t want us to have our own stadium or doesn’t understand the financial implications of it is mind boggling, but par for the course nonetheless...

A lot of people arguing against it don’t realize how much revenue stadiums generate, from ticket sales, suites, concessions, advertising, naming rights, licensing, merchandising, parking, team store & memorabilia etc.. Not to mention leasing for venues for concerts & other events...

The Dolphins sold the naming rights to their stadium to Hard Rock Cafe for $250Mill, the stadium itself generates over $100million a year in ticket sales alone from Phins games, Miami only gets a % of our ticket sales, we get pennies on the dollar for what revenue we bring to HRS.

Having our own stadium would generate easily $70-100mill in revenue for the Hurricanes & we would profit & benefit off that the most, aside from astronomical TV money from conference payouts in the SEC, schools like TAMU, Bama, UGA, etc make so much money in large part due to their stadiums, along with merchandising, donations from Boosters etc..

Having our own stadium is an absolute no-brainer for finances for the future of the program...
It’s very simple to understand even in Canes terms:
- Stadium = Moar Money
- Moar Money = Better Croots
- Better Croots = 15-0 bro!
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Oh, looky! Ruiz repeating many things i have been saying about the benefits for this program with this opportunity. How bout that…
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Great show.

@Rellyrell the reaction by some folks up north of Miami will be interesting 😂

@DMoney what are your thoughts on stadium opportunity after speaking with Ruiz.

I dunno, bro; it’s like this pesky word that kept being used called “revenue.”

Now, where have I heard that word used in regards to the new stadium? 🤔🤔
 
The fact that there’s a segment of our fans that doesn’t want us to have our own stadium or doesn’t understand the financial implications of it is mind boggling, but par for the course nonetheless...

A lot of people arguing against it don’t realize how much revenue stadiums generate, from ticket sales, suites, concessions, advertising, naming rights, licensing, merchandising, parking, team store & memorabilia etc.. Not to mention leasing for venues for concerts & other events...

The Dolphins sold the naming rights to their stadium to Hard Rock Cafe for $250Mill, the stadium itself generates over $100million a year in ticket sales alone from Phins games, Miami only gets a % of our ticket sales, we get pennies on the dollar for what revenue we bring to HRS.

Having our own stadium would generate easily $70-100mill in revenue for the Hurricanes & we would profit & benefit off that the most, aside from astronomical TV money from conference payouts in the SEC, schools like TAMU, Bama, UGA, etc make so much money in large part due to their stadiums, along with merchandising, donations from Boosters etc..

Having our own stadium is an absolute no-brainer for finances for the future of the program...
It’s very simple to understand even in Canes terms:
- Stadium = Moar Money
- Moar Money = Better Croots
- Better Croots = 15-0 bro!
"our stadium"??? Won't it be Ruiz (Life Wallet stadium)? has he said he's gifting it to the U?? On the premise that he will be the owner, there's a lot of unknowns on how "sweet" the deal will be for UM, right? He's still a business man and not about to blow $800mil-$2.5bil without making sure he's getting his investment back and some....

@DMoney I know it was a football chat, but can we ask if the Ruiz NIL has any plans on beefing up our baseball program and/or baseball recruiting?
 
The fact that there’s a segment of our fans that doesn’t want us to have our own stadium or doesn’t understand the financial implications of it is mind boggling, but par for the course nonetheless...

A lot of people arguing against it don’t realize how much revenue stadiums generate, from ticket sales, suites, concessions, advertising, naming rights, licensing, merchandising, parking, team store & memorabilia etc.. Not to mention leasing for venues for concerts & other events...

The Dolphins sold the naming rights to their stadium to Hard Rock Cafe for $250Mill, the stadium itself generates over $100million a year in ticket sales alone from Phins games, Miami only gets a % of our ticket sales, we get pennies on the dollar for what revenue we bring to HRS.

Having our own stadium would generate easily $70-100mill in revenue for the Hurricanes & we would profit & benefit off that the most, aside from astronomical TV money from conference payouts in the SEC, schools like TAMU, Bama, UGA, etc make so much money in large part due to their stadiums, along with merchandising, donations from Boosters etc..

Having our own stadium is an absolute no-brainer for finances for the future of the program...
It’s very simple to understand even in Canes terms:
- Stadium = Moar Money
- Moar Money = Better Croots
- Better Croots = 15-0 bro!
Here’s the thing. If Ruiz builds the stadium and owns it, that’s HIS revenue. It’s very likely that UM will get a much better deal from him than they’re getting from Stephen Ross so that’s definitely something to embrace but we need to stop spreading the false notion that John Ruiz is going to finance a stadium out of his own pocket and just give it to UM. Miami will still be renting a stadium but they’ll likely be getting a much better deal and a bigger slice of the pie. A lot of the revenue that stadiums generate just goes right back into maintenance and the costs of running and owning a stadium.

Renting from Ruiz > Renting from Ross.
 
The fact that there’s a segment of our fans that doesn’t want us to have our own stadium or doesn’t understand the financial implications of it is mind boggling, but par for the course nonetheless...

A lot of people arguing against it don’t realize how much revenue stadiums generate, from ticket sales, suites, concessions, advertising, naming rights, licensing, merchandising, parking, team store & memorabilia etc.. Not to mention leasing for venues for concerts & other events...

The Dolphins sold the naming rights to their stadium to Hard Rock Cafe for $250Mill, the stadium itself generates over $100million a year in ticket sales alone from Phins games, Miami only gets a % of our ticket sales, we get pennies on the dollar for what revenue we bring to HRS.

Having our own stadium would generate easily $70-100mill in revenue for the Hurricanes & we would profit & benefit off that the most, aside from astronomical TV money from conference payouts in the SEC, schools like TAMU, Bama, UGA, etc make so much money in large part due to their stadiums, along with merchandising, donations from Boosters etc..

Having our own stadium is an absolute no-brainer for finances for the future of the program...
It’s very simple to understand even in Canes terms:
- Stadium = Moar Money
- Moar Money = Better Croots
- Better Croots = 15-0 bro!

Everything you posted is correct. In a perfect world we would have our own stadium.

Unfortunately, the devil is in the details.

And one of the details with the current site being proposed is that it requires voter approval.

For the reasons you stated, it only makes sense for us to have our own stadium, so I am in no way anti-Stadium.

By the same token, several obstacles have to be overcome for this to become a real possibility. I’ll get excited about it when some of those are overcome.

The major obstacles right now being political opposition, as well as voter opposition, and additionally, proposed funding/ownership, and thirdly traffic logistics and additional road expansion/construction.

It’s not impossible, but these are huge obstacles that need to be worked out. Only then I know we will be closer to having one. Otherwise I’m going assume it’s not going to get done until I see at least some of these obstacles being overcome.
 
"our stadium"??? Won't it be Ruiz (Life Wallet stadium)? has he said he's gifting it to the U?? On the premise that he will be the owner, there's a lot of unknowns on how "sweet" the deal will be for UM, right? He's still a business man and not about to blow $800mil-$2.5bil without making sure he's getting his investment back and some....

@DMoney I know it was a football chat, but can we ask if the Ruiz NIL has any plans on beefing up our baseball program and/or baseball recruiting?
yes our stadium his money. Maybe an operational/ownership stake for miami? maybe he gets all miami live profits and goes 60-40% gameday revenue?
 
Ruiz laid out perfectly why the stadium needs to happen: it gives Miami financial sustainability. It won’t have an effect on the “hard rok is perfect!” crew but it’s the actual reason why Miami needs its own stadium (as opposed to school pride or something).
Hard Rock is a pretty good venue overall, but this is literally so simple to grasp. An institution like Miami needs to think in actual decades about these things.
 
Everything you posted is correct. In a perfect world we would have our own stadium.

Unfortunately, the devil is in the details.

And one of the details with the current site being proposed is that it requires voter approval.

For the reasons you stated, it only makes sense for us to have our own stadium, so I am in no way anti-Stadium.

By the same token, several obstacles have to be overcome for this to become a real possibility. I’ll get excited about it when some of those are overcome.

The major obstacles right now being political opposition, as well as voter opposition, and additionally, proposed funding/ownership, and thirdly traffic logistics and additional road expansion/construction.

It’s not impossible, but these are huge obstacles that need to be worked out. Only then I know we will be closer to having one. Otherwise I’m going assume it’s not going to get done until I see at least some of these obstacles being overcome.

The University needs the local community to support and approve an investment that will stabilize and self sustain them financially for the next several decades. In return, imho, the University should offer something pretty substantial to the community.

To me, that should look like some outreach educational efforts around stem for local kids. Bootcamp type programs that can take place on and off campus, for very affordable rates, and can help reduce the skill and income level gap in the local community. We’re in the perfect city to do this for a variety of reasons as well.

I don’t think the University has done nearly enough of this kind of thing, which is in stark contrast to the traditional Ivy tower model. This is a perfect opportunity to do so, by helping them get something else they want and need, and also lead the country in this growingly important area as well.
 
I don't know about explosive. He only had 19 receptions for 200+ yrds and zero TDs in 2001...only played in 6 games.

Ionno, OG. Yeah, DJ1 didn’t put the up the receiver stats like his peers, but DJ was damn explosive. He had elite speed. Kinda hard to put up the #’s when he played w/ four1st round picks at the receiving position (Moss, Wayne, Johnson, Shockey)

 
The University needs the local community to support and approve an investment that will stabilize and self sustain them financially for the next several decades. In return, imho, the University should offer something pretty substantial to the community.

To me, that should look like some outreach educational efforts around stem for local kids. Bootcamp type programs that can take place on and off campus, for very affordable rates, and can help reduce the skill and income level gap in the local community. We’re in the perfect city to do this for a variety of reasons as well.

I don’t think the University has done nearly enough of this kind of thing, which is in stark contrast to the traditional Ivy tower model. This is a perfect opportunity to do so, by helping them get something else they want and need, and also lead the country in this growingly important area as well.
Ruiz did mention the possibility of a satellite campus of sort
 
The fact that there’s a segment of our fans that doesn’t want us to have our own stadium or doesn’t understand the financial implications of it is mind boggling, but par for the course nonetheless...

A lot of people arguing against it don’t realize how much revenue stadiums generate, from ticket sales, suites, concessions, advertising, naming rights, licensing, merchandising, parking, team store & memorabilia etc.. Not to mention leasing for venues for concerts & other events...

The Dolphins sold the naming rights to their stadium to Hard Rock Cafe for $250Mill, the stadium itself generates over $100million a year in ticket sales alone from Phins games, Miami only gets a % of our ticket sales, we get pennies on the dollar for what revenue we bring to HRS.

Having our own stadium would generate easily $70-100mill in revenue for the Hurricanes & we would profit & benefit off that the most, aside from astronomical TV money from conference payouts in the SEC, schools like TAMU, Bama, UGA, etc make so much money in large part due to their stadiums, along with merchandising, donations from Boosters etc..

Having our own stadium is an absolute no-brainer for finances for the future of the program...
It’s very simple to understand even in Canes terms:
- Stadium = Moar Money
- Moar Money = Better Croots
- Better Croots = 15-0 bro!

Shhhhhhhhhh, El. Here in the land of CIS, u’re persecuted if u make too much sense & cents. No, no, no, El…I had a long debate w/ a now blocked user about USC & why they needed to be in the position to become operating partners. Despite all the hard facts, showing the revenue stream, he was certain I was an imbecile. Well, that weally, weally, hort my feelings. (Sigggggh, I di-gwess)

El, it’s of my CIS tainted opinion that Miami needs to continue to play at HRS, the land of aqua & simply tell Stephen Ross to:

 
The University needs the local community to support and approve an investment that will stabilize and self sustain them financially for the next several decades. In return, imho, the University should offer something pretty substantial to the community.

To me, that should look like some outreach educational efforts around stem for local kids. Bootcamp type programs that can take place on and off campus, for very affordable rates, and can help reduce the skill and income level gap in the local community. We’re in the perfect city to do this for a variety of reasons as well.

I don’t think the University has done nearly enough of this kind of thing, which is in stark contrast to the traditional Ivy tower model. This is a perfect opportunity to do so, by helping them get something else they want and need, and also lead the country in this growingly important area as well.

That’s all well and good, but first the aforementioned obstacles need to be overcome, including political and infrastructure/logistics. That’s where the focus has to be right now.
 
The fact that there’s a segment of our fans that doesn’t want us to have our own stadium or doesn’t understand the financial implications of it is mind boggling, but par for the course nonetheless...

A lot of people arguing against it don’t realize how much revenue stadiums generate, from ticket sales, suites, concessions, advertising, naming rights, licensing, merchandising, parking, team store & memorabilia etc.. Not to mention leasing for venues for concerts & other events...

The Dolphins sold the naming rights to their stadium to Hard Rock Cafe for $250Mill, the stadium itself generates over $100million a year in ticket sales alone from Phins games, Miami only gets a % of our ticket sales, we get pennies on the dollar for what revenue we bring to HRS.

Having our own stadium would generate easily $70-100mill in revenue for the Hurricanes & we would profit & benefit off that the most, aside from astronomical TV money from conference payouts in the SEC, schools like TAMU, Bama, UGA, etc make so much money in large part due to their stadiums, along with merchandising, donations from Boosters etc..

Having our own stadium is an absolute no-brainer for finances for the future of the program...
It’s very simple to understand even in Canes terms:
- Stadium = Moar Money
- Moar Money = Better Croots
- Better Croots = 15-0 bro!
You've been on these boards long enough to know there is a decent portion of this fanbase that fall under the categories of either not very intelligent, or only care about what's best for their particular conveniences. I've long held on this board that if you poll the majority of Cane fans that are "against" the idea of the Canes having our own stadium you'd find that the majority of them live closer to HR than the areas being proposed.

The Canes being in HR was a solution to a problem at the time. Other than that it never made any sense. This is a team that belongs in the HEART of Dade County, not hugging the county line in a pro stadium that simply tries to split the difference logistically with some fans who have moved further north.

The problem at the time was an administration that didn't give a **** about football. We've seemingly solved that problem....so why not FINALLY do what should have been done YEARS ago?

Good luck trying to get some on this board to understand this concept . It's like trying to teach quantum mechanics to a chimp with a brain injury.
 
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That’s all well and good, but first the aforementioned obstacles need to be overcome, including political and infrastructure/logistics. That’s where the focus has to be right now.
Having local ties and inroads help with that, a plan that will involve the community. UM is very closed off with that regard, they dont have large alumni footprint even in the city locally. It will help with outreach and support, it goes beyond just the immediate and can help with those goals as well.
 
Ionno, OG. Yeah, DJ1 didn’t put the up the receiver stats like his peers, but DJ was damn explosive. He had elite speed. Kinda hard to put up the #’s when he played w/ four1st round picks at the receiving position (Moss, Wayne, Johnson, Shockey)


He actually had better yrs his 1st 3yrs when Tana and Wayne were there.
 
He actually had better yrs his 1st 3yrs when Tana and Wayne were there.

Iirc, he was on pace to have his best yr in 2001. He was on pace for almost 40 receptions & 500 yrds, but he only played in 6 games. But bruh had next level speed & burst.
 
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