Nick Linder leaves Miami program

Aug 7, 2017

Mark Richt announced this morning after practice that center Nick Linder would be sitting the season out to train and focus on finishing his degree before going the graduate transfer route after the season.

Linder was battling for the center job with Tyler Gauthier and freshman Corey Gaynor. Sources say Gauthier had pushed out in front for the first team unit with Gaynor coming on strong and vying to be part of Miami's 7-deep on the line.

Linder was UM's starting center for the 2015 season and for most part of last year before a shoulder injury ended his season.

Miami's projected offensive line this season is LT Kc McDermott, LG Trevor Darling, C Tyler Gauthier, RG Navaughn Donaldson, RT Tyree St. Louis.

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Aug 7, 2017

cane248 said:
rokulika said:

This place has been quick to shoot down any concerns over literally every single one of the 16 early departures the program has endured since before the bowl game. Let's hope you all are right in insisting that there's nothing to see here.

Kaaya
Allison
Yearby
Edwards
Haskins
Njoku
Loftus
Knighton
Linder
Odogwu
Jenkins
Willis
Wright
James
Mayes
Henley

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Next up Jahair Jones, and if Rosier doesn't win the job he gone!

Rosier
Gray
Langham
Jones
Milo
Mahoney
Fines
McCray
Finley

Cane Dynasty

Aug 7, 2017

brock said:
This spells good news, gaynor must be that good to push linder out of the rotation. If you have 2 younger players better than a senior at a certain position who lakes size and strength then who tf cares that he left? He realized he was going to be out of the rotation and didnt want to waste his last year of eligibility being 3rd string as a senior. It is what it is

Then why is coach Rick so ****ed off about it?

Some of you idiots think that all a team needs is 2 deep and everything else is peaches and cream.

Honest questions. Have you ever been wrong? If so when?

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LuCane

Aug 7, 2017

brock said:
LuCane said:

brock said:

This spells good news, gaynor must be that good to push linder out of the rotation. If you have 2 younger players better than a senior at a certain position who lakes size and strength then who tf cares that he left? He realized he was going to be out of the rotation and didnt want to waste his last year of eligibility being 3rd string as a senior. It is what it is

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Perhaps this is coping mechanism, but there was nothing out there publicly or being said by insiders to support this view. Linder was consistently being slated by all as the 6th OL.

Let's not make up our own stories to feel better about the crap move Linder pulled.

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Pete alluded to it on twitter...

So if your source is Pete, please check last night's chat thread where he explains Gaynor being #7 behind the starting unit and Linder.

Here's your link: https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/chat-10-a/120731/2

Here's your screenshot:

Let's also add I'm aware of the people who watch practice and, unless they were outright lying, explained just a day or two ago exactly the same.

C
cane248

Aug 7, 2017

rokulika said:
cane248 said:

rokulika said:

This place has been quick to shoot down any concerns over literally every single one of the 16 early departures the program has endured since before the bowl game. Let's hope you all are right in insisting that there's nothing to see here.

Kaaya
Allison
Yearby
Edwards
Haskins
Njoku
Loftus
Knighton
Linder
Odogwu
Jenkins
Willis
Wright
James
Mayes
Henley

Click to expand...

Next up Jahair Jones, and if Rosier doesn't win the job he gone!

Click to expand...

Rosier
Gray
Langham
Jones
Milo
Mahoney
Fines
McCray
Finley

Obviously Mccray,Langham, and Fines need a fresh start. Gray, Finley, Milo, and Mahoney must show a pulse this year or they will be written off as well.

B
BoxingRobes

Aug 7, 2017

Football isn't for him. Too small.

With that said, smart move to do the honorable thing, get lost, but UM allows him to finish his degree...he's going to have a year of his grad degree paid for at another school when he becomes a grad transfer.

LuCane

Aug 7, 2017

The Franchise said:
LuCane said:

brock said:

This spells good news, gaynor must be that good to push linder out of the rotation. If you have 2 younger players better than a senior at a certain position who lakes size and strength then who tf cares that he left? He realized he was going to be out of the rotation and didnt want to waste his last year of eligibility being 3rd string as a senior. It is what it is

Click to expand...

Perhaps this is coping mechanism, but there was nothing out there publicly or being said by insiders to support this view. Linder was consistently being slated by all as the 6th OL.

Let's not make up our own stories to feel better about the crap move Linder pulled.

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If Linder was legit our 6th OL, then we better hope to **** no one gets hurt. Or we should be happy he's gone and that Searels will be forced to play someone other than that feckless ****. Searels had Linda ahead of Gall last year, and Gall proved to be a far superior player for us.

Searels had said it. People who watch practice had said it. Pete (and his sources) had confirmed it. This thing about him not being #6 now smells like bull****...at best.

brock

Aug 7, 2017

LuCane said:
brock said:

LuCane said:

brock said:

This spells good news, gaynor must be that good to push linder out of the rotation. If you have 2 younger players better than a senior at a certain position who lakes size and strength then who tf cares that he left? He realized he was going to be out of the rotation and didnt want to waste his last year of eligibility being 3rd string as a senior. It is what it is

Click to expand...

Perhaps this is coping mechanism, but there was nothing out there publicly or being said by insiders to support this view. Linder was consistently being slated by all as the 6th OL.

Let's not make up our own stories to feel better about the crap move Linder pulled.

Click to expand...

Pete alluded to it on twitter...

Click to expand...

So if your source is Pete, please check last night's chat thread where he explains Gaynor being #7 behind the starting unit and Linder.

Here's your link: https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/chat-10-a/120731/2

Here's your screenshot:

View attachment 48343

Let's also add I'm aware of the people who watch practice and, unless they were outright lying, explained just a day or two ago exactly the same.

I posted what pete was saying from twitter, debate that with him

Aug 7, 2017

Liberty City El said:
rokulika said:

Liberty City El said:

rokulika said:

This place has been quick to shoot down any concerns over literally every single one of the 16 early departures the program has endured since before the bowl game. Let's hope you all are right in insisting that there's nothing to see here.

Kaaya
Allison
Yearby
Edwards
Haskins
Njoku
Loftus
Knighton
Linder
Odogwu
Jenkins
Willis
Wright
James
Mayes
Henley

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Out of that list, I legitimately only think Willis & Haskins would've had an impact this year.

Yearby would've been a serviceable guy at the RB3 spot, but he was set on leaving no matter what.

The rest were scrubs with very little upside, Depth is not having people there for no reason, depth is having guys that can actually play to spell the starters.

Most of those dudes on that list simply weren't good enough to play here or just couldn't keep up with Richt's expectations.

Losing Nick Linder is not a loss by any standard, he was God awful & a complete liability at Center, he lost his job & quit, which means Gaynor was going to be the backup over him anyway.

And Richt said today the 3rd Center is Mahoney now.

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I agree about depth being about quality and not quantity, but to a degree we're lacking in quality at QB, RB, TE, OL, DT, S...so losing players who would've provided competition and given the staff more options, some of who were already leaving after 2017 anyway simply isn't a good thing. It might not signify anything negative if the team stays healthy and the young players who will be counted on are ready to go, but to dismiss each and every casualty and say "no big deal because these new recruits are some dogs" is a bit homerish imo.

I hope you all are right, but chances are that that we will look back at some point during the season and bemoan losing Yearby, Gus, Courtel, Willis, Haskins, Dogflu, and Linder to a lesser extent. The rest are guys who I have been wishing away as long as anyone.

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Agree with you on RB & TE, somewhat on DT because of Willis he was pretty **** good for us.

There's no such thing as depth at QB, you either have one or you have none.

There's nothing that could be done about Safety depth, Carter & Jenk graduated & went to the NFL.
Moving Red to FS was a great move with the additions of Dean & Delaney. Plus, Amari Carter is future all conference player.

As far as losing players that would've provided competition I'm not so sure that's true, those guys weren't competing for starter snaps, they were at the bottom of the Depth chart. And in Linder's case he fought & lost to Gauthier & Gaynor.

Courtel Jenkins will not be missed, he was undisciplined, caused several penalties, was routinely injured & suspended multiple times.

Gus Garbage *** Edwards will not be missed by anyone except my man Vern & other Walton haters.
He didn't do **** his 3/4 years here, all he ever did was run high & disappear when it matters most.

Haskins & Willis yes, the rest, no ****** way lol.

I'd rather have Courtel on the field instead of Fines.

Edwards instead of Gray.

Odogwu instead of true fresman Herbert.

Say what you want about some of these guys we've lost, but we don't automatically have someone better to replace them in every case.

LuCane

Aug 7, 2017

brock said:
LuCane said:

brock said:

LuCane said:

brock said:

This spells good news, gaynor must be that good to push linder out of the rotation. If you have 2 younger players better than a senior at a certain position who lakes size and strength then who tf cares that he left? He realized he was going to be out of the rotation and didnt want to waste his last year of eligibility being 3rd string as a senior. It is what it is

Click to expand...

Perhaps this is coping mechanism, but there was nothing out there publicly or being said by insiders to support this view. Linder was consistently being slated by all as the 6th OL.

Let's not make up our own stories to feel better about the crap move Linder pulled.

Click to expand...

Pete alluded to it on twitter...

Click to expand...

So if your source is Pete, please check last night's chat thread where he explains Gaynor being #7 behind the starting unit and Linder.

Here's your link: https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/chat-10-a/120731/2

Here's your screenshot:

View attachment 48343

Let's also add I'm aware of the people who watch practice and, unless they were outright lying, explained just a day or two ago exactly the same.

Click to expand...

I posted what pete was saying from twitter, debate that with him

I showed you the contradiction. Unlike you, I don't hang from Pete's every word and use those words as objective truth to use on a message board.
He's either spinning after the fact OR he, "inside sources" (including Pete's) and Searels himself were all misleading about the Top 6. G'luck working out that tangled web.

brock

Aug 7, 2017

rokulika said:
Liberty City El said:

rokulika said:

Liberty City El said:

rokulika said:

This place has been quick to shoot down any concerns over literally every single one of the 16 early departures the program has endured since before the bowl game. Let's hope you all are right in insisting that there's nothing to see here.

Kaaya
Allison
Yearby
Edwards
Haskins
Njoku
Loftus
Knighton
Linder
Odogwu
Jenkins
Willis
Wright
James
Mayes
Henley

Click to expand...

Out of that list, I legitimately only think Willis & Haskins would've had an impact this year.

Yearby would've been a serviceable guy at the RB3 spot, but he was set on leaving no matter what.

The rest were scrubs with very little upside, Depth is not having people there for no reason, depth is having guys that can actually play to spell the starters.

Most of those dudes on that list simply weren't good enough to play here or just couldn't keep up with Richt's expectations.

Losing Nick Linder is not a loss by any standard, he was God awful & a complete liability at Center, he lost his job & quit, which means Gaynor was going to be the backup over him anyway.

And Richt said today the 3rd Center is Mahoney now.

Click to expand...

I agree about depth being about quality and not quantity, but to a degree we're lacking in quality at QB, RB, TE, OL, DT, S...so losing players who would've provided competition and given the staff more options, some of who were already leaving after 2017 anyway simply isn't a good thing. It might not signify anything negative if the team stays healthy and the young players who will be counted on are ready to go, but to dismiss each and every casualty and say "no big deal because these new recruits are some dogs" is a bit homerish imo.

I hope you all are right, but chances are that that we will look back at some point during the season and bemoan losing Yearby, Gus, Courtel, Willis, Haskins, Dogflu, and Linder to a lesser extent. The rest are guys who I have been wishing away as long as anyone.

Click to expand...

Agree with you on RB & TE, somewhat on DT because of Willis he was pretty **** good for us.

There's no such thing as depth at QB, you either have one or you have none.

There's nothing that could be done about Safety depth, Carter & Jenk graduated & went to the NFL.
Moving Red to FS was a great move with the additions of Dean & Delaney. Plus, Amari Carter is future all conference player.

As far as losing players that would've provided competition I'm not so sure that's true, those guys weren't competing for starter snaps, they were at the bottom of the Depth chart. And in Linder's case he fought & lost to Gauthier & Gaynor.

Courtel Jenkins will not be missed, he was undisciplined, caused several penalties, was routinely injured & suspended multiple times.

Gus Garbage *** Edwards will not be missed by anyone except my man Vern & other Walton haters.
He didn't do **** his 3/4 years here, all he ever did was run high & disappear when it matters most.

Haskins & Willis yes, the rest, no ****in way lol.

Click to expand...

I'd rather have Courtel on the field instead of Fines.

Edwards instead of Gray.

Odogwu instead of true fresman Herbert.

Say what you want about some of these guys we've lost, but we don't automatically have someone better to replace them in every case.

Fines is 6th on the depth chart after Willis and jenkins departure. When is he going to see the field in meaningful games?..

brock

Aug 7, 2017

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Aug 7, 2017

brock said:
rokulika said:

Liberty City El said:

rokulika said:

Liberty City El said:

Out of that list, I legitimately only think Willis & Haskins would've had an impact this year.

Yearby would've been a serviceable guy at the RB3 spot, but he was set on leaving no matter what.

The rest were scrubs with very little upside, Depth is not having people there for no reason, depth is having guys that can actually play to spell the starters.

Most of those dudes on that list simply weren't good enough to play here or just couldn't keep up with Richt's expectations.

Losing Nick Linder is not a loss by any standard, he was God awful & a complete liability at Center, he lost his job & quit, which means Gaynor was going to be the backup over him anyway.

And Richt said today the 3rd Center is Mahoney now.

Click to expand...

I agree about depth being about quality and not quantity, but to a degree we're lacking in quality at QB, RB, TE, OL, DT, S...so losing players who would've provided competition and given the staff more options, some of who were already leaving after 2017 anyway simply isn't a good thing. It might not signify anything negative if the team stays healthy and the young players who will be counted on are ready to go, but to dismiss each and every casualty and say "no big deal because these new recruits are some dogs" is a bit homerish imo.

I hope you all are right, but chances are that that we will look back at some point during the season and bemoan losing Yearby, Gus, Courtel, Willis, Haskins, Dogflu, and Linder to a lesser extent. The rest are guys who I have been wishing away as long as anyone.

Click to expand...

Agree with you on RB & TE, somewhat on DT because of Willis he was pretty **** good for us.

There's no such thing as depth at QB, you either have one or you have none.

There's nothing that could be done about Safety depth, Carter & Jenk graduated & went to the NFL.
Moving Red to FS was a great move with the additions of Dean & Delaney. Plus, Amari Carter is future all conference player.

As far as losing players that would've provided competition I'm not so sure that's true, those guys weren't competing for starter snaps, they were at the bottom of the Depth chart. And in Linder's case he fought & lost to Gauthier & Gaynor.

Courtel Jenkins will not be missed, he was undisciplined, caused several penalties, was routinely injured & suspended multiple times.

Gus Garbage *** Edwards will not be missed by anyone except my man Vern & other Walton haters.
He didn't do **** his 3/4 years here, all he ever did was run high & disappear when it matters most.

Haskins & Willis yes, the rest, no ****in way lol.

Click to expand...

I'd rather have Courtel on the field instead of Fines.

Edwards instead of Gray.

Odogwu instead of true fresman Herbert.

Say what you want about some of these guys we've lost, but we don't automatically have someone better to replace them in every case.

Click to expand...

Fines is 6th on the depth chart after Willis and jenkins departure. When is he going to see the field in meaningful games?..

So in your opinion, none of the players we've lost would've had any impact and we're a better team now than before they left?

Aug 7, 2017

**** him. Purge the team of this week minded bull****. Once it gets tough on these kids, they break. What a sell out.

brock

Aug 7, 2017

rokulika said:
brock said:

rokulika said:

Liberty City El said:

rokulika said:

I agree about depth being about quality and not quantity, but to a degree we're lacking in quality at QB, RB, TE, OL, DT, S...so losing players who would've provided competition and given the staff more options, some of who were already leaving after 2017 anyway simply isn't a good thing. It might not signify anything negative if the team stays healthy and the young players who will be counted on are ready to go, but to dismiss each and every casualty and say "no big deal because these new recruits are some dogs" is a bit homerish imo.

I hope you all are right, but chances are that that we will look back at some point during the season and bemoan losing Yearby, Gus, Courtel, Willis, Haskins, Dogflu, and Linder to a lesser extent. The rest are guys who I have been wishing away as long as anyone.

Click to expand...

Agree with you on RB & TE, somewhat on DT because of Willis he was pretty **** good for us.

There's no such thing as depth at QB, you either have one or you have none.

There's nothing that could be done about Safety depth, Carter & Jenk graduated & went to the NFL.
Moving Red to FS was a great move with the additions of Dean & Delaney. Plus, Amari Carter is future all conference player.

As far as losing players that would've provided competition I'm not so sure that's true, those guys weren't competing for starter snaps, they were at the bottom of the Depth chart. And in Linder's case he fought & lost to Gauthier & Gaynor.

Courtel Jenkins will not be missed, he was undisciplined, caused several penalties, was routinely injured & suspended multiple times.

Gus Garbage *** Edwards will not be missed by anyone except my man Vern & other Walton haters.
He didn't do **** his 3/4 years here, all he ever did was run high & disappear when it matters most.

Haskins & Willis yes, the rest, no ****in way lol.

Click to expand...

I'd rather have Courtel on the field instead of Fines.

Edwards instead of Gray.

Odogwu instead of true fresman Herbert.

Say what you want about some of these guys we've lost, but we don't automatically have someone better to replace them in every case.

Click to expand...

Fines is 6th on the depth chart after Willis and jenkins departure. When is he going to see the field in meaningful games?..

Click to expand...

So in your opinion, none of the players we've lost would've had any impact and we're a better team now than before they left?

Outside of yearby and Willis? No. Even when Haskins was here he was still behind Irvin who the jury is still out on. He had potential but was not nearly going to make that big of an impact especially this season when we won't be using many 2 tight end sets of any at all.

Losing yearby it's a loss but you also bring back a backup that the coaches are high on who happens to be ALOT more athletic and faster than yearby also arguably is the most athletic running back on the team.

Mayes, wright, Henley, James get real... 3 of those 4 should have never been offered by Miami.

Odogwu and linder both left because they weren't guaranteed to start it is what it is. Yeah sunny was talent but when do you get to see it since he's always hurt so much? Linder hasn't been good since his freshman year. It's not a loss , the offense immediately performed better without him. It's no secret

FIUMCane

Aug 7, 2017

The soft weak mentality is the reason we lost late games against FSU the last couple of years. Savages play with savages and golden recruited a lot of puzzies...got lucky with a few studs like Njuko and Walton and a few others. But for the most part, he recruited weak hearted faqqots who quit on their brothers 3 weeks before the season.

I want dogs on this team not squirrels who tend to run when the dogs show up.

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Olema24

Aug 7, 2017

I don't understand the sense of entitlement not just LinderI see it little league , high school ball and college What happened to if I'm not playing I need to work harder and get better so I can play. The pussifcation of America. Give me the kid not afraid to compete every time.

brock

Aug 7, 2017

Straight up you soft shoulder posters who like to whine every time someone leaves should just leave with the rest of the canes who leave because of the depth chart too. The season is not over because of Linder leaving of all people give me a break

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HarrietTubmanCane

Aug 7, 2017

That was a good response by rok towards LCE's post. U both make valid points.

I remember sitting in the stands of the UM vs Notre Lame game in Chicago couple years ago and while watching warmups noticing how small and high school like 70% of their team was. It was amazing, dudes looked weak compared to our team in totality. But that 30% of their team was up to par and coupled with superior coaching went on to route a better looking UM team. Attrition is good if U have an intelligent and talented coaching staff over seeing it. Dudes leaving isn't a bad thing in of itself. If your starters in all the facets of the game are NFL serviceable and your coaching is adequate, then the team should be successful.