Olema24 said:

I don't understand the sense of entitlement not just LinderI see it little league , high school ball and college What happened to if I'm not playing I need to work harder and get better so I can play. The pussifcation of America. Give me the kid not afraid to compete every time.

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Liberty City El said:

rokulika said:

ILCane2011 said:

LuCane said:

brock said:

Straight up you soft shoulder posters who like to whine every time someone leaves should just leave with the rest of the canes who leave because of the depth chart too. The season is not over because of Linder leaving of all people give me a break

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What is this, man? We already have enough namecaller schticks on the board. Who is saying the season is over because of Linder? I'd like to see some examples.

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Uh, Rok is without a doubt.

Well not just Linder I guess, but all these transfers. Willis and Haskins are the only guys who would've even played any significant snaps.

I'll take Gaynor, who is a weight room beast, over Linder at Center anyday.

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I'm not trying to say that at all. This roster is more than adequate but it would be nice to have some of these guys still here, particularly those who were entering their senior year who have no bearing on our numbers for 2018. If you really believe that losing guys like Linder, Odogwu, Courtel and replacing them with true freshmen makes us better in 2017 then I might disagree. The ideal thing would be for these seniors to lose thier job but stick around as seasoned vets and keep the competition fierce. Who is pushing Homer? Pushing Irvin? Pushing Herbert, Gaynor, Bethel? We are going to be more than fine but to imply that we're somehow better today with Linder off the team is stupid in principal.

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We are absolutely better without Linder as a Starter, how much better would it make us if he were a backup?

He was nothing but a liability on the field, when Gall took his job last year the line significantly improved.

Linder was terrible, so what difference does it make if he's not on the team?

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rokulika said:

Nothing is lost by having Linder, Odogwu, Jenkins, Edwards, Willis, Yearby still here competing. Admit that their departure has made the roster slightly weaker or I'm initiating the ignore user protocol.

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rokulika said:

CaneSince4Ever said:

rokulika said:

People thought Gall was the worst player on the team before those last few games, he turned out to be decent when we needed him. Would have been a shame had he transferred before his senior season because he didn't win a starting job. Losing Linder has no positive effect on the team for 2017, nor is it the end of the world by any means.

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Because Gall was more than likely playing outta position His whole time here, or at least till Linder went down.

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Look I realize it's August and everyone thinks we're going 15-0 without allowing a single yard but at some point you people have to think impartially and ponder what you're saying.

Nothing is lost by having Linder, Odogwu, Jenkins, Edwards, Willis, Yearby still here competing. Admit that their departure has made the roster slightly weaker or I'm initiating the ignore user protocol.

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ilovelamp51 said:

Out of respect to his brother, I wish him well... at Jacksonville St.

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scrantoncane said:

Liberty City El said:

rokulika said:

ILCane2011 said:

LuCane said:

What is this, man? We already have enough namecaller schticks on the board. Who is saying the season is over because of Linder? I'd like to see some examples.

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Uh, Rok is without a doubt.

Well not just Linder I guess, but all these transfers. Willis and Haskins are the only guys who would've even played any significant snaps.

I'll take Gaynor, who is a weight room beast, over Linder at Center anyday.

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I'm not trying to say that at all. This roster is more than adequate but it would be nice to have some of these guys still here, particularly those who were entering their senior year who have no bearing on our numbers for 2018. If you really believe that losing guys like Linder, Odogwu, Courtel and replacing them with true freshmen makes us better in 2017 then I might disagree. The ideal thing would be for these seniors to lose thier job but stick around as seasoned vets and keep the competition fierce. Who is pushing Homer? Pushing Irvin? Pushing Herbert, Gaynor, Bethel? We are going to be more than fine but to imply that we're somehow better today with Linder off the team is stupid in principal.

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We are absolutely better without Linder as a Starter, how much better would it make us if he were a backup?

He was nothing but a liability on the field, when Gall took his job last year the line significantly improved.

Linder was terrible, so what difference does it make if he's not on the team?

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Here is my concern with losing Linder: our lack of depth at TE.

What happens if 1 or 2 OL get hurt (very possible), and the backup gets his isht pushed in? Under normal circumstances, we would likely help out with a TE, but we are dangerously low at that position too.

The sky isn't falling, yet. But we are a few injuries away from potentially having to change our whole offensive scheme to mask deficiencies.


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Liberty City El said:

scrantoncane said:

Liberty City El said:

rokulika said:

ILCane2011 said:

Uh, Rok is without a doubt.

Well not just Linder I guess, but all these transfers. Willis and Haskins are the only guys who would've even played any significant snaps.

I'll take Gaynor, who is a weight room beast, over Linder at Center anyday.

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I'm not trying to say that at all. This roster is more than adequate but it would be nice to have some of these guys still here, particularly those who were entering their senior year who have no bearing on our numbers for 2018. If you really believe that losing guys like Linder, Odogwu, Courtel and replacing them with true freshmen makes us better in 2017 then I might disagree. The ideal thing would be for these seniors to lose thier job but stick around as seasoned vets and keep the competition fierce. Who is pushing Homer? Pushing Irvin? Pushing Herbert, Gaynor, Bethel? We are going to be more than fine but to imply that we're somehow better today with Linder off the team is stupid in principal.

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We are absolutely better without Linder as a Starter, how much better would it make us if he were a backup?

He was nothing but a liability on the field, when Gall took his job last year the line significantly improved.

Linder was terrible, so what difference does it make if he's not on the team?

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Here is my concern with losing Linder: our lack of depth at TE.

What happens if 1 or 2 OL get hurt (very possible), and the backup gets his isht pushed in? Under normal circumstances, we would likely help out with a TE, but we are dangerously low at that position too.

The sky isn't falling, yet. But we are a few injuries away from potentially having to change our whole offensive scheme to mask deficiencies.


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Every single team in D1 Football is a few injuries away from having a disastrous season.

The injury argument is based on the idea that if we have any injuries we're going to be worse off, well yeah that's how the game works.

If Gauthier got injured & Linder became the starter, would that suddenly make Linder a better player?

He would've just been an awful Center coming in to start & play bad again.

I agree that losing Haskins wasn't definitely significant to TE depth, as I've said from the very beginning.

But this argument losing Linder means anything other than he just simply sucks is asinine to be honest.

You all are making something very simple more complicated than it actually is, he's not good & he's not just not good, but he's ****in horrendous. I dare anybody to dispute that.

Losing a terrible player is somehow a detriment to the team? Lol

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LuCane said:

The Franchise said:

LuCane said:

brock said:

This spells good news, gaynor must be that good to push linder out of the rotation. If you have 2 younger players better than a senior at a certain position who lakes size and strength then who tf cares that he left? He realized he was going to be out of the rotation and didnt want to waste his last year of eligibility being 3rd string as a senior. It is what it is

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Perhaps this is coping mechanism, but there was nothing out there publicly or being said by insiders to support this view. Linder was consistently being slated by all as the 6th OL.

Let's not make up our own stories to feel better about the crap move Linder pulled.

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If Linder was legit our 6th OL, then we better hope to **** no one gets hurt. Or we should be happy he's gone and that Searels will be forced to play someone other than that feckless ****. Searels had Linda ahead of Gall last year, and Gall proved to be a far superior player for us.

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Searels had said it. People who watch practice had said it. Pete (and his sources) had confirmed it. This thing about him not being #6 now smells like bull****...at best.

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brock said:

252cane said:

Linder played like pure shît these last 2 years. Glad i dont have to watch him get throwed around this season.

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Look at linder all the way in the back by Walton...
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Bullrushed to the ground

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scrantoncane said:

Liberty City El said:

scrantoncane said:

Liberty City El said:

rokulika said:

I'm not trying to say that at all. This roster is more than adequate but it would be nice to have some of these guys still here, particularly those who were entering their senior year who have no bearing on our numbers for 2018. If you really believe that losing guys like Linder, Odogwu, Courtel and replacing them with true freshmen makes us better in 2017 then I might disagree. The ideal thing would be for these seniors to lose thier job but stick around as seasoned vets and keep the competition fierce. Who is pushing Homer? Pushing Irvin? Pushing Herbert, Gaynor, Bethel? We are going to be more than fine but to imply that we're somehow better today with Linder off the team is stupid in principal.

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We are absolutely better without Linder as a Starter, how much better would it make us if he were a backup?

He was nothing but a liability on the field, when Gall took his job last year the line significantly improved.

Linder was terrible, so what difference does it make if he's not on the team?

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Here is my concern with losing Linder: our lack of depth at TE.

What happens if 1 or 2 OL get hurt (very possible), and the backup gets his isht pushed in? Under normal circumstances, we would likely help out with a TE, but we are dangerously low at that position too.

The sky isn't falling, yet. But we are a few injuries away from potentially having to change our whole offensive scheme to mask deficiencies.


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Every single team in D1 Football is a few injuries away from having a disastrous season.

The injury argument is based on the idea that if we have any injuries we're going to be worse off, well yeah that's how the game works.

If Gauthier got injured & Linder became the starter, would that suddenly make Linder a better player?

He would've just been an awful Center coming in to start & play bad again.

I agree that losing Haskins wasn't definitely significant to TE depth, as I've said from the very beginning.

But this argument losing Linder means anything other than he just simply sucks is asinine to be honest.

You all are making something very simple more complicated than it actually is, he's not good & he's not just not good, but he's ****in horrendous. I dare anybody to dispute that.

Losing a terrible player is somehow a detriment to the team? Lol

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There's something to be said for having a bunch of starts under your belt (seeing blitzes, calling protections, etc). And give me a 22 yr old senior over an 18 yr old freshman in the trenches any day.

Even if he was the 7th or 8th guy in the rotation, we could've used him.

Taken in a vacuum, his loss isn't big. But after Haskins, sonny, etc., I think you are downplaying it too much.


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CaneSince4Ever said:

Olema24 said:

I don't understand the sense of entitlement not just LinderI see it little league , high school ball and college What happened to if I'm not playing I need to work harder and get better so I can play. The pussifcation of America. Give me the kid not afraid to compete every time.

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LOL...let me guess, you don't like the "everybody gets a trophy" mentality either huh?...LOL

Stop applying that bull$h!t to everything, Linder just wasn't good enough.

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Liberty City El said:

scrantoncane said:

Liberty City El said:

scrantoncane said:

Liberty City El said:

We are absolutely better without Linder as a Starter, how much better would it make us if he were a backup?

He was nothing but a liability on the field, when Gall took his job last year the line significantly improved.

Linder was terrible, so what difference does it make if he's not on the team?

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Here is my concern with losing Linder: our lack of depth at TE.

What happens if 1 or 2 OL get hurt (very possible), and the backup gets his isht pushed in? Under normal circumstances, we would likely help out with a TE, but we are dangerously low at that position too.

The sky isn't falling, yet. But we are a few injuries away from potentially having to change our whole offensive scheme to mask deficiencies.


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Every single team in D1 Football is a few injuries away from having a disastrous season.

The injury argument is based on the idea that if we have any injuries we're going to be worse off, well yeah that's how the game works.

If Gauthier got injured & Linder became the starter, would that suddenly make Linder a better player?

He would've just been an awful Center coming in to start & play bad again.

I agree that losing Haskins wasn't definitely significant to TE depth, as I've said from the very beginning.

But this argument losing Linder means anything other than he just simply sucks is asinine to be honest.

You all are making something very simple more complicated than it actually is, he's not good & he's not just not good, but he's ****in horrendous. I dare anybody to dispute that.

Losing a terrible player is somehow a detriment to the team? Lol

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There's something to be said for having a bunch of starts under your belt (seeing blitzes, calling protections, etc). And give me a 22 yr old senior over an 18 yr old freshman in the trenches any day.

Even if he was the 7th or 8th guy in the rotation, we could've used him.

Taken in a vacuum, his loss isn't big. But after Haskins, sonny, etc., I think you are downplaying it too much.


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I had a typo in my post, I said wasn't but meant was in the sentence on Haskins.

I'm not downplaying anything, y'all are overplaying what & who Linder is.

I challenge anybody to find me some legitimate film of him from last season playing at an acceptable level.

Either yall forgot or you all have lowered your standards... Rewatch the games, I promise you won't find ONE game of Linder playing well, not one.

I agree that losing Haskins & Willis is significant, scroll back through the thread said that numerous times, but those others guys y'all are mentioning were scrubs point blank period.

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scrantoncane said:

Liberty City El said:

scrantoncane said:

Liberty City El said:

rokulika said:

I'm not trying to say that at all. This roster is more than adequate but it would be nice to have some of these guys still here, particularly those who were entering their senior year who have no bearing on our numbers for 2018. If you really believe that losing guys like Linder, Odogwu, Courtel and replacing them with true freshmen makes us better in 2017 then I might disagree. The ideal thing would be for these seniors to lose thier job but stick around as seasoned vets and keep the competition fierce. Who is pushing Homer? Pushing Irvin? Pushing Herbert, Gaynor, Bethel? We are going to be more than fine but to imply that we're somehow better today with Linder off the team is stupid in principal.

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We are absolutely better without Linder as a Starter, how much better would it make us if he were a backup?

He was nothing but a liability on the field, when Gall took his job last year the line significantly improved.

Linder was terrible, so what difference does it make if he's not on the team?

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Here is my concern with losing Linder: our lack of depth at TE.

What happens if 1 or 2 OL get hurt (very possible), and the backup gets his isht pushed in? Under normal circumstances, we would likely help out with a TE, but we are dangerously low at that position too.

The sky isn't falling, yet. But we are a few injuries away from potentially having to change our whole offensive scheme to mask deficiencies.


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Every single team in D1 Football is a few injuries away from having a disastrous season.

The injury argument is based on the idea that if we have any injuries we're going to be worse off, well yeah that's how the game works.

If Gauthier got injured & Linder became the starter, would that suddenly make Linder a better player?

He would've just been an awful Center coming in to start & play bad again.

I agree that losing Haskins wasn't definitely significant to TE depth, as I've said from the very beginning.

But this argument losing Linder means anything other than he just simply sucks is asinine to be honest.

You all are making something very simple more complicated than it actually is, he's not good & he's not just not good, but he's ****in horrendous. I dare anybody to dispute that.

Losing a terrible player is somehow a detriment to the team? Lol

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There's something to be said for having a bunch of starts under your belt (seeing blitzes, calling protections, etc). And give me a 22 yr old senior over an 18 yr old freshman in the trenches any day.

Even if he was the 7th or 8th guy in the rotation, we could've used him.

Taken in a vacuum, his loss isn't big. But after Haskins, sonny, etc., I think you are downplaying it too much.


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Liberty City El said:

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Losing this guy makes us a worse team?

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Liberty City El said:

scrantoncane said:

Liberty City El said:

scrantoncane said:

Liberty City El said:

We are absolutely better without Linder as a Starter, how much better would it make us if he were a backup?

He was nothing but a liability on the field, when Gall took his job last year the line significantly improved.

Linder was terrible, so what difference does it make if he's not on the team?

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Here is my concern with losing Linder: our lack of depth at TE.

What happens if 1 or 2 OL get hurt (very possible), and the backup gets his isht pushed in? Under normal circumstances, we would likely help out with a TE, but we are dangerously low at that position too.

The sky isn't falling, yet. But we are a few injuries away from potentially having to change our whole offensive scheme to mask deficiencies.


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Every single team in D1 Football is a few injuries away from having a disastrous season.

The injury argument is based on the idea that if we have any injuries we're going to be worse off, well yeah that's how the game works.

If Gauthier got injured & Linder became the starter, would that suddenly make Linder a better player?

He would've just been an awful Center coming in to start & play bad again.

I agree that losing Haskins wasn't definitely significant to TE depth, as I've said from the very beginning.

But this argument losing Linder means anything other than he just simply sucks is asinine to be honest.

You all are making something very simple more complicated than it actually is, he's not good & he's not just not good, but he's ****in horrendous. I dare anybody to dispute that.

Losing a terrible player is somehow a detriment to the team? Lol

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There's something to be said for having a bunch of starts under your belt (seeing blitzes, calling protections, etc). And give me a 22 yr old senior over an 18 yr old freshman in the trenches any day.

Even if he was the 7th or 8th guy in the rotation, we could've used him.

Taken in a vacuum, his loss isn't big. But after Haskins, sonny, etc., I think you are downplaying it too much.


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I had a typo in my post, I said wasn't but meant was in the sentence on Haskins.

I'm not downplaying anything, y'all are overplaying what & who Linder is.

I challenge anybody to find me some legitimate film of him from last season playing at an acceptable level.

Either yall forgot or you all have lowered your standards... Rewatch the games, I promise you won't find ONE game of Linder playing well, not one.

I agree that losing Haskins & Willis is significant, scroll back through the thread said that numerous times, but those others guys y'all are mentioning were scrubs point blank period.

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