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grover

May 29, 2017

calinative umstudent said:
ThomasM said:

Garvin was my favorite recruit in the class, at least on D. He's going to turn a lot of heads next fall.

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Well he and Gaynor were very clearly the biggest steals in the class.

In terms of being able to play above scouting expectations (ratings) I agree. But I think a lot of us fans liked what we saw early on with these two. And there are a lot of kids in this class that are steals. Perry for example didn't get the ratings he deserved either. I expect several to make big contributions to the season as true freshmen, starting with Donaldson, Thomas, Carter, Bandy and hopefully Perry. Cannot wait.

MExtraMon9y

May 29, 2017

LuCane said:
MExtraMon9y said:

Random question. Seems like J Garvin is too good to redshirt so where does that leave DJ Johnson when he pulls up?

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Most likely on the other side of the defensive line.

True but on what the 3rd team? Cause the 2nd unit seems already set..

either way we got a lot of depth on the DL and that's a great problem to have [emoji1487]

ThomasM

May 29, 2017

grover said:
calinative umstudent said:

ThomasM said:

Garvin was my favorite recruit in the class, at least on D. He's going to turn a lot of heads next fall.

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Well he and Gaynor were very clearly the biggest steals in the class.

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In terms of being able to play above scouting expectations (ratings) I agree. But I think a lot of us fans liked what we saw early on with these two. And there are a lot of kids in this class that are steals. Perry for example didn't get the ratings he deserved either. I expect several to make big contributions to the season as true freshmen, starting with Donaldson, Thomas, Carter, Bandy and hopefully Perry. Cannot wait.

Yeah, I agree. The second I saw his tape I couldn't believe he was a 3 star player. He's freakish.

252cane

May 29, 2017

MExtraMon9y said:
LuCane said:

MExtraMon9y said:

Random question. Seems like J Garvin is too good to redshirt so where does that leave DJ Johnson when he pulls up?

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Most likely on the other side of the defensive line.

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True but on what the 3rd team? Cause the 2nd unit seems already set..

either way we got a lot of depth on the DL and that's a great problem to have [emoji1487]

Garvin is likely starting out 3rd team too. I think they are better pass rushers than harris and d.jackson so that could help them get on the field some.

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hoover437

May 29, 2017

good piece!

DMoney

May 29, 2017

D_G87 said:
I have to disagree on Colbert being a better pro than Corn. I think Corn is slept on tremendously. Dude knows how to play football. Colbert has better measurebes but give me Corn the football player all day

I just think playing CB in the NFL is about traits.

Brandon Harris and Sam Shields are an example. Harris was an awesome college player - a third team All-American - but his lack of size and elite speed doomed him in the pros. Shields, on the other hand, basically learned on the job and made plays because his speed was so special.

Colbert is 6'2, 210 with 4.4 speed and decent feet. He's still pretty new to corner and has a good attitude. The arrow is pointing up.

With that said, I still think Corn will find his niche because he's such a great football player and winner. He was a killer here.

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HarrietTubmanCane

May 30, 2017

That comparison/example just cemented your point and changed my mind.

RattlerCane305

May 30, 2017

Apocalypse Now, mind ova matter next batter be Tical... U ****ed em up with the Visionz instrumental D$

D_G87

May 30, 2017

VERY TRUE

DMoney said:
D_G87 said:

I have to disagree on Colbert being a better pro than Corn. I think Corn is slept on tremendously. Dude knows how to play football. Colbert has better measurebes but give me Corn the football player all day

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I just think playing CB in the NFL is about traits.

Brandon Harris and Sam Shields are an example. Harris was an awesome college player - a third team All-American - but his lack of size and elite speed doomed him in the pros. Shields, on the other hand, basically learned on the job and made plays because his speed was so special.

Colbert is 6'2, 210 with 4.4 speed and decent feet. He's still pretty new to corner and has a good attitude. The arrow is pointing up.

With that said, I still think Corn will find his niche because he's such a great football player and winner. He was a killer here.

marshallrc13

May 30, 2017

Very good listen DMoney and Peter Ariz!

rok

May 30, 2017

MExtraMon9y said:
LuCane said:

MExtraMon9y said:

Random question. Seems like J Garvin is too good to redshirt so where does that leave DJ Johnson when he pulls up?

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Most likely on the other side of the defensive line.

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True but on what the 3rd team? Cause the 2nd unit seems already set..

either way we got a lot of depth on the DL and that's a great problem to have [emoji1487]

Also have Patchan in the mix possibly. Quite a logjam.

gatorsSUCK!

May 31, 2017

Good point on Patchen. On his HS tape, his first step reminded of Jason Taylor. Any updates on how he is coming along?

kryptonite

May 31, 2017

LuCane said:
MExtraMon9y said:

Random question. Seems like J Garvin is too good to redshirt so where does that leave DJ Johnson when he pulls up?

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Most likely on the other side of the LOS.

FIFY

DMoney

May 31, 2017

I don't think we should redshirt DJ Johnson barring injury. If an out-of-state big timer isn't playing, there is a very real chance that he will transfer.

It's the same thing with kids who are character risks (DJ's character is good from everything I hear, just making an example). If they have ability but the position is loaded, get them playing on special teams to keep them engaged.

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CaneSB

Jun 2, 2017

DMoney said:
I don't think we should redshirt DJ Johnson barring injury. If an out-of-state big timer isn't playing, there is a very real chance that he will transfer.

It's the same thing with kids who are character risks (DJ's character is good from everything I hear, just making an example). If they have ability but the position is loaded, get them playing on special teams to keep

Makes sense logically but sure would like some data that supports this opinion.

MExtraMon9y

Jun 2, 2017

DMoney said:
I don't think we should redshirt DJ Johnson barring injury. If an out-of-state big timer isn't playing, there is a very real chance that he will transfer.

It's the same thing with kids who are character risks (DJ's character is good from everything I hear, just making an example). If they have ability but the position is loaded, get them playing on special teams to keep them engaged.

Facts.. hopefully we blow out some teams that why everyone can get spin

HurricaneUWW

Jun 3, 2017

CaneSB said:
DMoney said:

I don't think we should redshirt DJ Johnson barring injury. If an out-of-state big timer isn't playing, there is a very real chance that he will transfer.

It's the same thing with kids who are character risks (DJ's character is good from everything I hear, just making an example). If they have ability but the position is loaded, get them playing on special teams to keep

Makes sense logically but sure would like some data that supports this opinion.

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Really? A 5-star kid going to school literally on the other side of the country is told he won't play at all as a true freshman... what else do you need? These kids have careers on the line and talent to burn, when you're that good and you know it, you don't want to be told to wait.