Football School: How do college coaches evaluate LBs?

Football School: How do college coaches evaluate LBs?

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Message boards are full of so-called experts who never played or coached the game at the high levels. I’m one of them. CanesInSight is blessed to have Mike Zuckerman, a ten-year college coaching veteran, take us to Football School. He will join the show regularly to provide insight on terms we use every day, but may not fully understand. Zuck, a Miami alum, spent seven years in UM’s football program in various roles and, for the past three years, served as the linebackers coach at Utah State. During his tenure, Utah State had an 11-win season, won the conference, and produced 2023 first-team All-Conference LB MJ Tafisi. Zuck has taken a leave of absence to return to civilian life, which is a blow for Utah State but a blessing for Canes fans.

In this week’s Football School, he explains what he looks for when evaluating a high school linebacker for college football.

On the first thing he looks for: One of the most interesting things I ever heard about linebacker play is: when you look at Pop Warner or little league football, the most athletic kid gets put at quarterback or running back so he can touch the ball every play. Everyone gets placed by their skill set. The biggest kids get put on the line, all that stuff. The linebacker is normally not any one shape or size. It's normally the best football player. The most instinctual guy on that team gets put at the spot from a young age.

I've always believed there is no one linebacker type. It's the most instinctual position on the field because you're playing in a short area of space with movement in front of you. You have to understand schemes. You have to understand pass coverage. And you have to understand how everything in front of you and behind you plays.

So that's the number one thing when you start looking at linebackers. Obviously, everybody wants the 6’3, 250-pound long-armed guy who can run. But there's not a ton of those people out there. The biggest thing, after your initial non-negotiable measurables, is that you're finding a guy who instinctually feels the game. He’s smart and is tough. Especially at a place like Utah State.

Being at Miami forever, that's more looking at the cream of the crop and then figuring out which ones are the perfect fit for you. When you go down a level, when you're at the Group of Five or you're recruiting FCS, D2, D3, you need to find the best football players and be willing to figure out where you’re willing to sacrifice. If they have every single skill I just described, they're going to Miami, they're going to an SEC school.

So that smart and toughness factor is the number one thing in any linebacker. Because we've all seen it. You've seen a million guys who look like a million bucks and can run super fast and just can't make a play a linebacker. There's so much reactional thinking that has to go on there. That's my non-negotiable is they've got to be a football player, period. Obviously, we'll look at height and length and all those things, but they've got to be able to make a play.

On the difficulty of projecting linebackers to the next level: Linebacker is extremely difficult because you can have every physical attribute and get to college and not be able to see the game. Corey [Flagg] is such an awesome example. The guy went through so many coaching staffs and no one could beat him out. Everyone kept putting him on the field and he kept making plays.

When Blake Baker recruited Corey, he went and saw him and he was brilliant. The way he practiced and the way he led, he took something from the board and immediately learned it. He could see the game extremely well and he tackled well. And he played fast. I don't know what 40 times Corey would run, but he played fast.

I look at my time at Miami and how many different body types we had. When I was in school, I absolutely loved watching Sean Spence. I was in the same class as him, and Sean was 6'1, maybe 205 pounds as as a freshman and got up to about 220 at the most. He was long and could run. But the biggest thing was he was brilliant. He saw the game ridiculously well.

You look at Denzel Perryman. Denzel was thick, but he was 5'10 at best. But again, extremely explosive hitter who saw the game extremely well. Shaq Quarterman's more built like your typical Mike, but he saw the game extremely well. Mike Pinckney, he's more undersized, but just incredible instincts.

That's why the biggest thing to me in linebacker recruiting is you have to talk to the kid. You have to watch him practice. You have to talk ball, see if he understands what's going on and really truly sees the game.

On linebackers who play running back: One thing that I loved looking for, especially being at Utah State, was running back instincts. Because it's very hard sometimes to see instincts as a linebacker on linebacker film. All respect to high school coaches. The best coach I know in the world is a high school coach. But a lot of times when you don't have the coaches to really drill down on every position, a lot of linebacker play in high school is “go tackle the guy with the ball.” Like I said, no disrespect to anybody, but a lot of times that does happen on the high school level. And the first time a linebacker is taught to read things and react, and not just chase where he thinks the ball is, is in college. And he can't do it.

When you see running back film, however, the vision can translate as a linebacker. That's a way you can use high school film to evaluate whether this guy can see what's going on. Because if you really think about it, linebacker play is reverse running back play. Yes, you have gaps and you have responsibilities and everything like that. But you are tracking to the first opening. The running back is tracking to run into that first opening. If you understand what's going on and can meet him there, then you're going to be a good linebacker.



On watching former FSU LB Jeff Luc and other highlight reel sensations: Before I was truly involved and had learned how to evaluate film, I watched [Jeff Luc tape] in a dorm room in Miami and thought, “Oh my God, this guy's the best linebacker of all time.” But one thing you learn with a lot of highlight tapes – because there's a lot of kids out there who have tapes just smashing people– is almost every single thing that he does on this tape is in a straight line.

A big red flag to me is if I don't see you change direction on tape. Or the one or two times you do change direction, it doesn't look fluid. Because very little in linebacker play is running in a straight line. It's almost all short, choppy movements and how quickly you can change direction within that box.

How do you maneuver in that box? How well do you change direction? Can you tackle a guy in a short amount of space and make the necessary changes in direction to make that tackle?



One of the older coaches at Utah State taught me this early and because he had been down more. I'd spent most of my career in Miami. He'd been at Arkansas State before we came to Utah State and had spent his career mostly D2. He was like, “You won't believe how many coaches don't go back and watch the game tape.” He's like, “We've got HUDL now. Back in the day, it was hard to get full game tape. We've got HUDL. You need to go watch the entire game and make your own cut ups.” We call them profile tapes, which is not a highlight tape. It's a cut up of every time you do anything good or bad. In the NFL, that's what they do with every prospect. When you see a highlight tape and you're not sure, you need to go watch that game tape, especially for linebackers. That's going to tell you a lot.

There's been kids where it’s like, “Man, this guy's awesome.” And then the only good plays he has were those three minutes on the highlight tape. And there are horrible plays on there. Whereas conversely, there's some kids where you think “He's OK.” And you go watch him in a game and it’s, “Oh, my God, I love this guy.” I’ve had both of those.

For the full Podcast, which includes Coach Zuck’s breakdown of Miami commit Elijah Melendez, click the video above, watch on YouTube or subscribe on all major podcast platforms.

Previous Football School articles:

Does Miami Really Run the Air Raid?


What's the Difference Between Sam, Striker and Nickel?

 

Comments (22)

All of the people putting this together deserve a lot of props! Great stuff.

Wish more of the people on the site could absorb more of this information before they talk football but not every fan… wants or really cares about the actual game.

Good ish!!
 
Linebacker is the second hardest position to evaluate in football. Only something like 30% of All Pro NFL Linebackers were four stars or better in high school. Lowest percentage of any position on defense.

Measureables NEVER tell the story with Linebackers. I've seen LB's who were running 4.5 in the wrong direction.

If I'm building a defense from scratch, I'm putting big athletic guys on the DL with high IQ/high GPA guys behind them at LB. I saw that a lot with some of Brent Venables elite defenses.

My best LB's were always high IQ guys but weren't always the best athletes. By being smart and diagnosing things quickly, you can often find yourself in less space. This can sometimes mitigate any athletic issues.

For me, I'm looking at...
1. IQ
2. Short area quickness
3. Toughness

IMO if a guy is great at those 3 things then he can fall anywhere in the vicinity of 5'11" to 6'1" as far as I'm concerned.

The Linebacker position cannot be properly evaluated through highlight tapes and measureables IMO.
It's failed more often than not.
 
This was awesome to read for me. My son is in the class of 26 and we are finally begining to go to college camps and showcases since we moved from Am Samoa. He's 6'1 220 and still 15. I appreciate this article DMoney🤙🏽. We are hoping to hit up Arizona, ASU, Utah, Utah St, and Nevada for their college camps. Lets go🫡
 
Linebacker is the second hardest position to evaluate in football. Only something like 30% of All Pro NFL Linebackers were four stars or better in high school. Lowest percentage of any position on defense.

Measureables NEVER tell the story with Linebackers. I've seen LB's who were running 4.5 in the wrong direction.

If I'm building a defense from scratch, I'm putting big athletic guys on the DL with high IQ/high GPA guys behind them at LB. I saw that a lot with some of Brent Venables elite defenses.

My best LB's were always high IQ guys but weren't always the best athletes. By being smart and diagnosing things quickly, you can often find yourself in less space. This can sometimes mitigate any athletic issues.

For me, I'm looking at...
1. IQ
2. Short area quickness
3. Toughness

IMO if a guy is great at those 3 things then he can fall anywhere in the vicinity of 5'11" to 6'1" as far as I'm concerned.

The Linebacker position cannot be properly evaluated through highlight tapes and measureables IMO.
It's failed more often than not.
Good stuff

I played LB so it’s always been my favorite position (pause)

The IQ thing is huge because Miami has been a great example of watching athletic guys look like they’re running in the mud because they have no clue where they’re supposed to be

There’s too much happening in front of them while they’re worried about what’s happening behind them as well and you’re facing an offense that knows exactly where it’s supposed to be going

It’s why you see the Cory Flaggs starting at times when it’s not some upper classmen conspiracy. Love what we’ve done with the room since Mario got here
 
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Linebacker is the second hardest position to evaluate in football. Only something like 30% of All Pro NFL Linebackers were four stars or better in high school. Lowest percentage of any position on defense.

Measureables NEVER tell the story with Linebackers. I've seen LB's who were running 4.5 in the wrong direction.

If I'm building a defense from scratch, I'm putting big athletic guys on the DL with high IQ/high GPA guys behind them at LB. I saw that a lot with some of Brent Venables elite defenses.

My best LB's were always high IQ guys but weren't always the best athletes. By being smart and diagnosing things quickly, you can often find yourself in less space. This can sometimes mitigate any athletic issues.

For me, I'm looking at...
1. IQ
2. Short area quickness
3. Toughness

IMO if a guy is great at those 3 things then he can fall anywhere in the vicinity of 5'11" to 6'1" as far as I'm concerned.

The Linebacker position cannot be properly evaluated through highlight tapes and measureables IMO.
It's failed more often than not.
Coach Macho - one of my most respected posters!!!

I played DB and then slid to Striker/ OLB at 5”8 180 lbs, as a Senior, in a 4-4 hybrid defense with mostly man/1 high or cover 2/3 mixed back in the early 2000’s because I read plays the best and got to where I needed to be. I went back to Safety in college.

But your post points out the obvious problem with diagnosing LBs.


Everyone wants and recruits athletes that show the measurables and physicality. It’s necessary at the P5 level to have both. Again, while I said I love Wes. He knows where to be… if our Dline makes it less active for him or he can be more physical… we have a “playoff caliber” P5 linebacker. If our younger more athletic LBs can elevate their mental game it makes the situation easier.
How different is it reading offenses from HS to College to NFL??? Leaps and bounds.

People don’t realize how difficult it becomes in the heat. I don’t want to compare it to WAR. People are not dying. But close, point blank action, diagnosis, response , is probably the closest young adults can be to being tested in high risk/anxiety situations for real life.

Most react and survive, a lot crap the bed, a few elite excel and execute on an advanced level.
 
Linebacker is the second hardest position to evaluate in football. Only something like 30% of All Pro NFL Linebackers were four stars or better in high school. Lowest percentage of any position on defense.

Measureables NEVER tell the story with Linebackers. I've seen LB's who were running 4.5 in the wrong direction.

If I'm building a defense from scratch, I'm putting big athletic guys on the DL with high IQ/high GPA guys behind them at LB. I saw that a lot with some of Brent Venables elite defenses.

My best LB's were always high IQ guys but weren't always the best athletes. By being smart and diagnosing things quickly, you can often find yourself in less space. This can sometimes mitigate any athletic issues.

For me, I'm looking at...
1. IQ
2. Short area quickness
3. Toughness

IMO if a guy is great at those 3 things then he can fall anywhere in the vicinity of 5'11" to 6'1" as far as I'm concerned.

The Linebacker position cannot be properly evaluated through highlight tapes and measureables IMO.
It's failed more often than not.
Great write up.

How do you feel about the LB recruits we’ve brought in the last 2 classes. And how did you feel about letting Shavers go?
 
It’s why you see the Cory Flaggs starting at times when it’s not some upper classmen conspiracy. Love what we’ve done with the room since Mario got here
Ah yes, the “favoritism” conspiracy that CIS loved so much. The coaches are purposely playing bad players because they’re bffs and bench is full of first rounders and future all pros that can’t get on the field because….the coach is a doo doo head.

Crazy how Corey Flagg somehow managed to steal snaps from “better” players under three different defensive coordinators. It’s almost like coaches would rather play a slow guy who knows what he’s doing over an athletic freak who’s running the wrong way.
 
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With a linebacker you have to go off of instinct first
 
Good stuff

I played LB so it’s always been my favorite position (pause)

The IQ thing is huge because Miami has been a great example of watching athletic guys look like they’re running in the mud because they have no clue where they’re supposed to be

There’s too much happening in front of them while they’re worried about what’s happening behind them as well and you’re facing an offense that knows exactly where it’s supposed to be going

It’s why you see the Cory Flaggs starting at times when it’s not some upper classmen conspiracy. Love what we’ve done with the room since Mario got here

You played a position that requires high IQ? Wow!

:p
 
Linebacker is the second hardest position to evaluate in football. Only something like 30% of All Pro NFL Linebackers were four stars or better in high school. Lowest percentage of any position on defense.

Measureables NEVER tell the story with Linebackers. I've seen LB's who were running 4.5 in the wrong direction.

If I'm building a defense from scratch, I'm putting big athletic guys on the DL with high IQ/high GPA guys behind them at LB. I saw that a lot with some of Brent Venables elite defenses.

My best LB's were always high IQ guys but weren't always the best athletes. By being smart and diagnosing things quickly, you can often find yourself in less space. This can sometimes mitigate any athletic issues.

For me, I'm looking at...
1. IQ
2. Short area quickness
3. Toughness

IMO if a guy is great at those 3 things then he can fall anywhere in the vicinity of 5'11" to 6'1" as far as I'm concerned.

The Linebacker position cannot be properly evaluated through highlight tapes and measureables IMO.
It's failed more often than not.

You are describing Zach Thomas to a T
 
Good stuff

I played LB so it’s always been my favorite position (pause)

The IQ thing is huge because Miami has been a great example of watching athletic guys look like they’re running in the mud because they have no clue where they’re supposed to be

There’s too much happening in front of them while they’re worried about what’s happening behind them as well and you’re facing an offense that knows exactly where it’s supposed to be going

It’s why you see the Cory Flaggs starting at times when it’s not some upper classmen conspiracy. Love what we’ve done with the room since Mario got here
Avery Huff comes to mind, kid had speed and looked the part but could never get on the field.
 
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Thank you DMoney for your easy to understand write ups for people like me. I too, never played football, a sport which is “an elephant in a dark room” for me. Your explanations, even though you didn’t play the sport either, tells me you are a heavyweight “Student of the game.” Reading your pieces is an extra patty on my fan-of-the-U burger. Take that!

Fo a long time, in my limited knowledge, just like your LB analysis, I have thought a WR could always switch roles as a CB and vice versa. Recent rumblings about Washington practicing at CB told me I was up to something (like a one year-old realizing he can use his thumb to secure a spoon in the right position in his hand).

Overall, good stuff, my membership money well spent!
 

Message boards are full of so-called experts who never played or coached the game at the high levels. I’m one of them. CanesInSight is blessed to have Mike Zuckerman, a ten-year college coaching veteran, take us to Football School. He will join the show regularly to provide insight on terms we use every day, but may not fully understand. Zuck, a Miami alum, spent seven years in UM’s football program in various roles and, for the past three years, served as the linebackers coach at Utah State. During his tenure, Utah State had an 11-win season, won the conference, and produced 2023 first-team All-Conference LB MJ Tafisi. Zuck has taken a leave of absence to return to civilian life, which is a blow for Utah State but a blessing for Canes fans.

In this week’s Football School, he explains what he looks for when evaluating a high school linebacker for college football.

On the first thing he looks for: One of the most interesting things I ever heard about linebacker play is: when you look at Pop Warner or little league football, the most athletic kid gets put at quarterback or running back so he can touch the ball every play. Everyone gets placed by their skill set. The biggest kids get put on the line, all that stuff. The linebacker is normally not any one shape or size. It's normally the best football player. The most instinctual guy on that team gets put at the spot from a young age.

I've always believed there is no one linebacker type. It's the most instinctual position on the field because you're playing in a short area of space with movement in front of you. You have to understand schemes. You have to understand pass coverage. And you have to understand how everything in front of you and behind you plays.

So that's the number one thing when you start looking at linebackers. Obviously, everybody wants the 6’3, 250-pound long-armed guy who can run. But there's not a ton of those people out there. The biggest thing, after your initial non-negotiable measurables, is that you're finding a guy who instinctually feels the game. He’s smart and is tough. Especially at a place like Utah State.

Being at Miami forever, that's more looking at the cream of the crop and then figuring out which ones are the perfect fit for you. When you go down a level, when you're at the Group of Five or you're recruiting FCS, D2, D3, you need to find the best football players and be willing to figure out where you’re willing to sacrifice. If they have every single skill I just described, they're going to Miami, they're going to an SEC school.

So that smart and toughness factor is the number one thing in any linebacker. Because we've all seen it. You've seen a million guys who look like a million bucks and can run super fast and just can't make a play a linebacker. There's so much reactional thinking that has to go on there. That's my non-negotiable is they've got to be a football player, period. Obviously, we'll look at height and length and all those things, but they've got to be able to make a play.

On the difficulty of projecting linebackers to the next level: Linebacker is extremely difficult because you can have every physical attribute and get to college and not be able to see the game. Corey [Flagg] is such an awesome example. The guy went through so many coaching staffs and no one could beat him out. Everyone kept putting him on the field and he kept making plays.

When Blake Baker recruited Corey, he went and saw him and he was brilliant. The way he practiced and the way he led, he took something from the board and immediately learned it. He could see the game extremely well and he tackled well. And he played fast. I don't know what 40 times Corey would run, but he played fast.

I look at my time at Miami and how many different body types we had. When I was in school, I absolutely loved watching Sean Spence. I was in the same class as him, and Sean was 6'1, maybe 205 pounds as as a freshman and got up to about 220 at the most. He was long and could run. But the biggest thing was he was brilliant. He saw the game ridiculously well.

You look at Denzel Perryman. Denzel was thick, but he was 5'10 at best. But again, extremely explosive hitter who saw the game extremely well. Shaq Quarterman's more built like your typical Mike, but he saw the game extremely well. Mike Pinckney, he's more undersized, but just incredible instincts.

That's why the biggest thing to me in linebacker recruiting is you have to talk to the kid. You have to watch him practice. You have to talk ball, see if he understands what's going on and really truly sees the game.

On linebackers who play running back: One thing that I loved looking for, especially being at Utah State, was running back instincts. Because it's very hard sometimes to see instincts as a linebacker on linebacker film. All respect to high school coaches. The best coach I know in the world is a high school coach. But a lot of times when you don't have the coaches to really drill down on every position, a lot of linebacker play in high school is “go tackle the guy with the ball.” Like I said, no disrespect to anybody, but a lot of times that does happen on the high school level. And the first time a linebacker is taught to read things and react, and not just chase where he thinks the ball is, is in college. And he can't do it.

When you see running back film, however, the vision can translate as a linebacker. That's a way you can use high school film to evaluate whether this guy can see what's going on. Because if you really think about it, linebacker play is reverse running back play. Yes, you have gaps and you have responsibilities and everything like that. But you are tracking to the first opening. The running back is tracking to run into that first opening. If you understand what's going on and can meet him there, then you're going to be a good linebacker.



On watching former FSU LB Jeff Luc and other highlight reel sensations: Before I was truly involved and had learned how to evaluate film, I watched [Jeff Luc tape] in a dorm room in Miami and thought, “Oh my God, this guy's the best linebacker of all time.” But one thing you learn with a lot of highlight tapes – because there's a lot of kids out there who have tapes just smashing people– is almost every single thing that he does on this tape is in a straight line.

A big red flag to me is if I don't see you change direction on tape. Or the one or two times you do change direction, it doesn't look fluid. Because very little in linebacker play is running in a straight line. It's almost all short, choppy movements and how quickly you can change direction within that box.

How do you maneuver in that box? How well do you change direction? Can you tackle a guy in a short amount of space and make the necessary changes in direction to make that tackle?



One of the older coaches at Utah State taught me this early and because he had been down more. I'd spent most of my career in Miami. He'd been at Arkansas State before we came to Utah State and had spent his career mostly D2. He was like, “You won't believe how many coaches don't go back and watch the game tape.” He's like, “We've got HUDL now. Back in the day, it was hard to get full game tape. We've got HUDL. You need to go watch the entire game and make your own cut ups.” We call them profile tapes, which is not a highlight tape. It's a cut up of every time you do anything good or bad. In the NFL, that's what they do with every prospect. When you see a highlight tape and you're not sure, you need to go watch that game tape, especially for linebackers. That's going to tell you a lot.

There's been kids where it’s like, “Man, this guy's awesome.” And then the only good plays he has were those three minutes on the highlight tape. And there are horrible plays on there. Whereas conversely, there's some kids where you think “He's OK.” And you go watch him in a game and it’s, “Oh, my God, I love this guy.” I’ve had both of those.

For the full Podcast, which includes Coach Zuck’s breakdown of Miami commit Elijah Melendez, click the video above, watch on YouTube or subscribe on all major podcast platforms.

Previous Football School articles:

Does Miami Really Run the Air Raid?


What's the Difference Between Sam, Striker and Nickel?


That small LB sh dont work cause when they add weight they lose any step they had. This is how u recruit linebackers ladies n gents. Mario knows
 
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Good stuff

I played LB so it’s always been my favorite position (pause)

The IQ thing is huge because Miami has been a great example of watching athletic guys look like they’re running in the mud because they have no clue where they’re supposed to be

There’s too much happening in front of them while they’re worried about what’s happening behind them as well and you’re facing an offense that knows exactly where it’s supposed to be going

It’s why you see the Cory Flaggs starting at times when it’s not some upper classmen conspiracy. Love what we’ve done with the room since Mario got here
idk about this one maaaan lol
 
Sooo it’s a bad idea to take a million undersized HS edge rushers and ask them to play off ball LB??
 
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