Another November

DMoney

Nov 12, 2023 3 min read

For the past twenty years, Miami has collapsed in November. We are 0-2. At least we don't have to talk about our chances to win the Coastal anymore.

Yesterday's performance was not bad. Miami had a chance to tie at the end, on the road, without the benefit of a single turnover. The teams were not far apart talent wise.

The problem is that the head coach and quarterback already threw away two games before this one. That's the frustration. This team is clearly improved across the board and yet we are positioned for another November nightmare. The players are deflated and the QB is spiraling. These next two games are enormous- there is a major difference between 8-4 with momentum and 6-6 with toxicity. Some specific thoughts:

- Emory Williams won over a lot of teammates with those two runs. At this point, I would project him more as an ideal game-manager backup. That doesn't mean he can't be more than that, but we need to procure a starter from the Portal.

- While the talent gap has closed (and Miami has the advantage at several spots), FSU has a major advantage in terms of impact skill. As @Cribby noted, Miami lacks difference makers and explosive players even beyond scheme issues. We need more explosive runs and one-on-one wins at WR.

- Respect to Frank Ladson for the play of his career. He went and high-pointed the onside kick and took a huge hit in the process.

- Jacolby George was probably the second-saddest person in the stadium when Emory went down. He is continuing to develop and was getting looks he doesn't see with Tyler Van Dyke. If Van Dyke is going to start salvaging his season, he will need to find George like he did against TAMU.

- Francisco Mauigoia is having a monster year. 54 tackles, 15 TFLs, 6.5 sacks and an INT. We need to keep the Poly pipeline going in the Portal.

- Damari Brown and Jadais Richard showed physical ability and hopefully gained some confidence against two future pros. Brown and Richard are huge for the future of the DB position. One or both may even grow into safeties. I expect Miami to chase an impact corner or two in the Portal.

- Mark Fletcher missed some holes yesterday. He seemed amped up. We need a bounceback next week against a Louisville team that is Top 10 against the run.

- Unless someone runs out of the back of the end zone like Dan Orlosvky, we may never see a safety again.

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Memnon

Nov 12, 2023

One9 said:
and then like 6 after that.

God bless job security.

2029 bro...

One9

Nov 12, 2023

Memnon said:
2029 bro...

I'd assume 2034 once that extension hits after our first winning season in...

'24? '25?

mcnaire2004

Nov 12, 2023

Number1CanesFan said:
Shut up with this stupid ****!!! We had a freshman QB against a 6-year QB who has 2 future NFL WRs. We lost by 7 and you're trying to blame the HC and compare him to Manny?

The team is better. The culture is getting where it needs to be. We had 16 turnovers in a month and you are comparing wins and losses to the previous regime. Anyone with half a brain knows we are at least 8-2 with average QB play the last month. We are 9-1 and maybe 10-0 with plus QB play.

I don't want to hear anything about Diaz. The projection of the program under Manny and Mario are polar opposites. You figure out which.

Cool. Don't worry, you'll be making those excuses for years to come.

hoops156

Nov 12, 2023

Number1CanesFan said:
Shut up with this stupid ****!!! We had a freshman QB against a 6-year QB who has 2 future NFL WRs. We lost by 7 and you're trying to blame the HC and compare him to Manny?

The team is better. The culture is getting where it needs to be. We had 16 turnovers in a month and you are comparing wins and losses to the previous regime. Anyone with half a brain knows we are at least 8-2 with average QB play the last month. We are 9-1 and maybe 10-0 with plus QB play.

I don't want to hear anything about Diaz. The projection of the program under Manny and Mario are polar opposites. You figure out which.

by record, he is worse than Manny with more resources. how is the projection better when we still lose to teams we shouldn't and have been 5-9 in our last 14 conference games (in an easy conference). is it bc his name is just Mario Cristobal vs Manny Diaz? by record, he is worse with more resources than any other coach has been given at UM. to compare, as was said in another thread, he would have to win 11 straight conference games to match mannys acc record. I think Mario is obviously a better coach but it's hard to say that the projection is good. we have a good defense and have improved on the OL which we expected under Mario, but still dont have a legit QB, still struggle with O scheme, playcallling, and overall philosophy.

yesterday wasn't doom and gloom but its not factual to say this team projects to be better when we have shown that we aren't better overall (we have 3 of 6 wins against g5 and an FCS team, 2 wins at at home in OT/2OT against very average to putrid ACC teams, and a home loss to an ACC team we shouldn't have lost to if not for your savior Mario.

Mario is gonna be here for the better portion of his entire contract bc we dont have ATM boosters who can pay that buyout and not blink. we just gotta hope he hires a Mullen type OC who tells Mario to just recruit and let me worry about scheme, philosophy, play calling and if you dont agree, you can find your own office. this really has to be a directive from up top bc teams have won immediately in todays CFB. you dont need to struggle for years to win now anymore esp w the portal. its not even debatable anymore. even one fluke season of 10-11 wins (we haven't won 11 since 03) would do wonders for the projection and trajectory of this program. were now gonna go into year 3 with a ton of the same questions and possibly a third OC in 3 years.

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Manfred_Cane

Nov 12, 2023

Hurracanes said:
X better go pro this year because with TVD out next year and others coming in, we won’t get close to the numbers he produced this year.

He should go to SMU or FAU or USF.
Some **** like that.

PRcane787

Nov 12, 2023

Ghandi said:
The answer to WR is already on the roster and on its way.

I know there’s some leadership qualities X brings, but at this point it’s time to let Joseph play and rotate in. He’s got the dynamic talent needed to change the WR room. Same for Horton. He’s better than Young long term, let him show it now.

Both Carr and Trader will elevate this room further and should be able to earn major burn as TFr’s.

Kirk is also someone that has shown the ability to come down with contested catches in practice but is having a hard time separating from our DB’s.

Everyone else, thank you and please pick up your transfer papers while turning in your pads. All except Washington…he just needs to learn to run routes.

No chance? Flipping?

Number1CanesFan

Nov 12, 2023

mcnaire2004 said:
Cool. Don't worry, you'll be making those excuses for years to come.

16 turnovers are fact not excuses.

A Diaz team would have lost to A&M, Clemson, and got blown out by FSU with a freshman QB.

What was Diaz's best win?

Our trenches are must better and built to last.

I don't like some of Marii's coaching
decisions or his meddling with the offense, but comments infuriate me. We have a HC who understands what a championship team look like. We will get there.

It took FSU 4 years having a losing record before they broke through.

Fans are so unrealistic with expectations. We all thought we were a 10-11 win team (including me) after the A&M game. Then TVD became broken and it all changed.

No amount of blaming the head coach compares to 13 of the 16 turnovers were committed by your QB. If you want to blame Mario for not making a QB change, then that is debatable, but fair.

westcoastcanes

Nov 12, 2023

I keep seeing mention of how much we have improved. Through ten games last year, 5-5. through ten games this year, 6-4. So what, we got a little hot sauce and pepper sprinkled on our **** sandwhich?

Rellyrell

Nov 12, 2023

Smh

pubmedu

Nov 12, 2023

gabednconfused

Nov 12, 2023

Number1CanesFan said:
16 turnovers are fact not excuses.

A Diaz team would have lost to A&M, Clemson, and got blown out by FSU with a freshman QB.

What was Diaz's best win?

Our trenches are must better and built to last.

I don't like some of Marii's coaching
decisions or his meddling with the offense, but comments infuriate me. We have a HC who understands what a championship team look like. We will get there.

It took FSU 4 years having a losing record before they broke through.

Fans are so unrealistic with expectations. We all thought we were a 10-11 win team (including me) after the A&M game. Then TVD became broken and it all changed.

No amount of blaming the head coach compares to 13 of the 16 turnovers were committed by your QB. If you want to blame Mario for not making a QB change, then that is debatable, but fair.

Kinda makes sense... I think Dawson was coaching scared because he has a useless set of field generals.

PRcane787

Nov 12, 2023

Well Hurricane season does end in November..

Cane6

Nov 12, 2023

mossmadness said:
I’m convinced a lot of people on this board don’t actually watch college football outside of Miami.

It’s the only explanation as to why so many seem to have so little idea about what the other teams are doing.

I echo this in conjunction with my argument that Dawson isn’t even trying to scheme open easy plays for our QB, or to allow our playmakers to get out in space

In this day n age of CFB, I don’t know how you can watch most teams (outside of the BigTen) and not see what other OCs are doing compared to what Dawson is doing

Memnon

Nov 12, 2023

Number1CanesFan said:
16 turnovers are fact not excuses.

A Diaz team would have lost to A&M, Clemson, and got blown out by FSU with a freshman QB.

What was Diaz's best win?

Our trenches are must better and built to last.

I don't like some of Marii's coaching
decisions or his meddling with the offense, but comments infuriate me. We have a HC who understands what a championship team look like. We will get there.

It took FSU 4 years having a losing record before they broke through.

Fans are so unrealistic with expectations. We all thought we were a 10-11 win team (including me) after the A&M game. Then TVD became broken and it all changed.

No amount of blaming the head coach compares to 13 of the 16 turnovers were committed by your QB. If you want to blame Mario for not making a QB change, then that is debatable, but fair.

cway313

Nov 12, 2023

pubmedu said:

God**** the fans on Twitter holding us back.

Cajuncane

Nov 12, 2023

canester95 said:
Miami, where “ next year” is just a year away….always

Like the bar with the “ Free Beer Tomorrow “ sign…

Ivan The Terrible

Nov 12, 2023

To think that Benson wanted to come to Miami with Mario is definitely a kick in the balls. Fock you Mario for not bringing this young man with you Smdh

TRick72

Nov 12, 2023

Say what you will but we’re a model of consistency

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skyman

Nov 12, 2023

TRick72 said:
Say what you will but we’re a model of consistency

I think had a hashtag #forever7n5 some years back.. We stuck in endless loop

crossover22[]_[]

Nov 12, 2023

SayWhat said:
Pinning our hopes on a portal miracle at QB, it's still funny seeing people saying this is the way.

Any OC we face recruiting QB X this off season would only need 15 minutes to show why having a QB isn't needed here besides handing off the ball. It isn't even worth my time explaining how and why that is, but it's there for all to see in the film.

These guys believe better players will magically elevate coaching.

It doesn't work that way.