Zero Sh*ts Given

What is baffling how Ross seems totally willing to throw the bread and butter fans (Dolphins, Canes, concertgoers) under the bus (re: Green Lot, parking situation) on the altar of Tennis and (very, very speculatively) F1.

I wonder how many GPs they imagine will get run here to justify ****ing off the people who attend far more events.


I've also said that they need to turn the Yellow Lots into parking garages. Those aren't real tailgate lots anyhow.

Once you create a REAL distinctive parking choice, and allow all the non-tailgaters to park in a shaded garage, you can begin to address the other issues.
 
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I've always felt we can't compare ourselves to those other schools. We're not the state school located in the middle of nowhere with nothing else to do. EVERY sport in Miami has to compete for eyes (Marlins, Heat, Phins) it just is what it is. Who's ND, Ohio St, Michigan, etc. competing with? The local bars? Frat party? I could sell out a turtle race with that captive audience.


All of this is true. But we also have 3 of the most populous counties in Florida, and there has got to be some sort of pricepoint that will allow us to put 60,000 people in the stands on a regular basis.

I'd also like to see Dade FINALLY complete their plans to extend MetroRail to the Dade-Broward line. And West Broward is **** for traffic, so why not run the MetroRail all the way to the Palm Beach Airport?
 
What exactly would a plan to fix this be? And how do you know there isn't one?

I'm sure they're actively talking about it and are running promotions all the time. Their sales people are probably paid a commission, and want to sell as many tickets as possible.

This is a dumb post.


Thank you for your thoughts, Blake.

There is no plan.
 
It's THE PRODUCT! The U is not a 150 year old state subsidized university with a million alumni and dedicated fans. The Miami fans base won't show up for an average team. We are the amusement park that only has a old school wooden rollercoaster. People not lining up to ride that when they can go to Universal or Busch Gardens and ride great coasters.
 
All of this is true. But we also have 3 of the most populous counties in Florida, and there has got to be some sort of pricepoint that will allow us to put 60,000 people in the stands on a regular basis.

I'd also like to see Dade FINALLY complete their plans to extend MetroRail to the Dade-Broward line. And West Broward is **** for traffic, so why not run the MetroRail all the way to the Palm Beach Airport?
Bro don't get me started on rail and high speed rail. The benefits are monumental!
 
I know attendance has been an issue for years... but looking around college football its hard to understand how we can ever compete with Ohio St., Alabama, Georgia, Clemson etc. when we cant sell out a home opener after Covid restrictions or pack the house 3 out of 6 games a year... maybe 70% the other 3. But what stings the most is that there seems to be zero plan to fix this AND zero sh*ts given. To me that pretty much sums up our Athletic Department... Zero Sh*ts Given.
They don't care the checks are cashed. We are a goodie two shoes program with blinders on. Fund raisers and optics is what they care for to fool the fans. It's makeup over a pig for the simple minded that get fooled every season. The best part of Miami football is the excitement of searching for a new HC. That's the most hype I get every few years
 
I don’t know numbers but tv revenue and ratings matter more . ESPN loves to
feature canes
 
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Thank you for your thoughts, Blake.

There is no plan.
Please give me an example of a plan to fix the specific problem of not selling enough tickets. That's a pretty straightforward request.

If my business had a sales problem, we would do things like hire more sales people, fire current sales people, change our commission structure, target new customer segments, run some promotions, increase our marketing spend, divert our marketing spend to different channels, invest in partnerships, and in the long-run, build new products or features.

I'm sure Miami is doing most of those things, but you would never know it from the outside-in. It happens behind the scenes. So I don't know how anyone here can claim there is or isn't a plan.

Plus, that stuff doesn't always work, particularly in sports, when the most important variable is on-field success. You can nibble around the edges, but unless the team is performing at a high level, that stadium won't be full.
 
I was talking to someone who is in the front office for the stadium and the fins about how they can make the open seats less noticeable. It looks worse because of the teal seats, very polarizing.

Besides that, they have turned the stadium into an elitist scum bucket, where home side 100 level is basically never filled because they turned it into an underground country club that no one wants to sit in. They just hang out in the aircondition, even for big dolphins games.

The stadium has gone too far to the high end sports fan (e.g. NFL) and its not the same product or pricepoint for UM. This is another Shalala ****up.
Yep...sons of ******* tore down our biggest advantage and replaced it with an antiseptic but extremely fan-friendly amusement park.
 
Please give me an example of a plan to fix the specific problem of not selling enough tickets. That's a pretty straightforward request.

If my business had a sales problem, we would do things like hire more sales people, fire current sales people, change our commission structure, target new customer segments, run some promotions, increase our marketing spend, divert our marketing spend to different channels, invest in partnerships, and in the long-run, build new products or features.

I'm sure Miami is doing most of those things, but you would never know it from the outside-in. It happens behind the scenes. So I don't know how anyone here can claim there is or isn't a plan.

Plus, that stuff doesn't always work, particularly in sports, when the most important variable is on-field success. You can nibble around the edges, but unless the team is performing at a high level, that stadium won't be full.


You have got to be kidding, right? I have been providing ideas and plans for years, including Post #42 ON THIS THREAD.

I don't give a rat's **** what "your business" does to increase sales, nor your "sureness" (which is actually an assumption) that "Miami is doing most of those things". They are not.

The reality is that our product (UM football) is not something where you can just "hire more sales people" or "fire current sales people" or "change your commission structure". The truth is that Beta Blake has hired a bunch of sycophants in the Ticket Office who prefer to waste your telephone time by telling you how "Blake invented the Green Lot" or "taking credit for Hard Rock renovation dollars as UM expenditures", rather than to engage with our fanbase, listen to our concerns, and tailor the solutions to what we ask for.

Here's a simple question (not for you, since you are some sort of Sales genius), but for all of the other Season Ticketholders out there...does someone from the UM Ticket Office contact you, ask you about your experiences, or conduct a survey about what kinds of changes you would like to see? Because I could understand it if they didn't do that EVERY year (they should), but I can't recall ever being contacted over the past 10 years, either by phone, mail, or e-mail.

Here's the reality, I worked for a major sports entity for six years, and I can ABSOLUTELY tell you that we were constantly innovating to find new and impactful fan experiences that would drive ticket sales higher, even during a recession. It had NOTHING to do with hiring/firing sales people or changing their commissions. If you find a reason to inspire people to come to your event, you will sell more tickets, regardless of how many sales people you have or their commission structure.

Look, I know you're such a Sales genius that you are going to pontificate to all of us about how "the plan" is "happening behind the scenes", but it's really not. I am an alum and a Hurricane Club member and a season ticketholder, and I read all the e-mails. I got more e-mails trying to sell me a "Swag Bag" for the game in Atlanta than I have received describing ANY improvements to the 2021 UM Gameday Experience. Unless you count the "F**k you, we're moving the Green Lot across the street" e-mail, which was certainly NOT a gameday improvement.

Beta Blake does not have a plan, and has not had a plan for nearly ten years. I realize winning more games would help, but until he hires a great coach to lead us out of the darkness, BETA BLAKE HAS TO DO MORE TO PUT MORE PEOPLE IN THE STANDS. "Maximizing revenue" by charging more and more money for tickets and parking is NOT the answer. Until we have a football product that people will pay premium prices to watch, you have to take the short term hit (cheaper prices) to build a future fanbase.

Beta Blake is not going to fire any "sales people", those drones are loyal lapdogs for him.
 
You have got to be kidding, right? I have been providing ideas and plans for years, including Post #42 ON THIS THREAD.

I don't give a rat's **** what "your business" does to increase sales, nor your "sureness" (which is actually an assumption) that "Miami is doing most of those things". They are not.

The reality is that our product (UM football) is not something where you can just "hire more sales people" or "fire current sales people" or "change your commission structure". The truth is that Beta Blake has hired a bunch of sycophants in the Ticket Office who prefer to waste your telephone time by telling you how "Blake invented the Green Lot" or "taking credit for Hard Rock renovation dollars as UM expenditures", rather than to engage with our fanbase, listen to our concerns, and tailor the solutions to what we ask for.

Here's a simple question (not for you, since you are some sort of Sales genius), but for all of the other Season Ticketholders out there...does someone from the UM Ticket Office contact you, ask you about your experiences, or conduct a survey about what kinds of changes you would like to see? Because I could understand it if they didn't do that EVERY year (they should), but I can't recall ever being contacted over the past 10 years, either by phone, mail, or e-mail.

Here's the reality, I worked for a major sports entity for six years, and I can ABSOLUTELY tell you that we were constantly innovating to find new and impactful fan experiences that would drive ticket sales higher, even during a recession. It had NOTHING to do with hiring/firing sales people or changing their commissions. If you find a reason to inspire people to come to your event, you will sell more tickets, regardless of how many sales people you have or their commission structure.

Look, I know you're such a Sales genius that you are going to pontificate to all of us about how "the plan" is "happening behind the scenes", but it's really not. I am an alum and a Hurricane Club member and a season ticketholder, and I read all the e-mails. I got more e-mails trying to sell me a "Swag Bag" for the game in Atlanta than I have received describing ANY improvements to the 2021 UM Gameday Experience. Unless you count the "F**k you, we're moving the Green Lot across the street" e-mail, which was certainly NOT a gameday improvement.

Beta Blake does not have a plan, and has not had a plan for nearly ten years. I realize winning more games would help, but until he hires a great coach to lead us out of the darkness, BETA BLAKE HAS TO DO MORE TO PUT MORE PEOPLE IN THE STANDS. "Maximizing revenue" by charging more and more money for tickets and parking is NOT the answer. Until we have a football product that people will pay premium prices to watch, you have to take the short term hit (cheaper prices) to build a future fanbase.

Beta Blake is not going to fire any "sales people", those drones are loyal lapdogs for him.
That was a load of nonsense.

I'm also a "Hurricane Club member and a season ticketholder, and I read all the emails". They're doing a bunch of the crap you described. I get emails from them daily. You want them to innovate? They're aggressively rolling out NFTs, which are really cool (well, maybe not for out-of-touch boomers, which I'm guessing you are). They are also offering new payment plans, which is akin to lowering prices.

I'm pretty sure I get calls from them periodically, but like most people under 50, I don't typically answer phone calls nor check voicemails.

But the point is that none of the crap that they're doing really matters. If the team wins, fans will show up. Full stop. Complaining about the lack of a plan to increase attendance is just looking for more things to complain about. Complain about the OL or the tackling in the secondary. This is stupid.
 
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Miami is not a great sports town. For many folks it’s just too expensive and a hassle to go to a game at Hard Rock. Other than 50 cent beer night, I don’t know how to fix it. A free ticket with a whopper was the go to.
I lived in Columbus, OH for 5 years and it is a great college football town…and that’s it! It’s sucks otherwise. If you had nothing to do with the University, you would be miserable. But that is a college town.

We have choices on our weekends. We have the beach, the ocean, fishing, golfing, drinking at all hours, women at all hours and those are just the legal things. When we were relevant, the OB was solidly packed. But it was also a lot closer to campus then (OB) and the dynamics were a lot different (SoBe was not yet what it became…banners were advertising 2 for 1 at Mars Bar). I still go to games but I am a die hard. That is the issue, we are losing die hard fans and thus we can only sell seats to the bandwagon group.
 
Before Saban, Dabo & Jim Tressel how were those packed stadiums winning championships then?

what’s your reasoning for Texas and Michigan being average?
 
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