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Zero Sh*ts Given

JeddTheFisch said:
A lot of people don't know this, but we actually sell a lot of season tickets for a CFB program, and a TON relative to the size of the school.

I believe this peaked in 1990 at 57,000. I think 1990 had pretty good attendance numbers, though rarely full (lots of figures in the 50,000, but still lower than the # of season tickets sold).

If we were at that level of a program, we'd have better attendance.

However, we'd still get 750 for a high noon vs. Central Connecticut.
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I agree completely. On a "per capita" basis, we do pretty well. But nobody ever gives us credit for that, they just post pictures of lots of empty seats.

I've been going to games since 1986. A few years (such as 1990) coincided with being defending national champs, and optimism was high. And it always helped to host F$U in the Orange Bowl.

This goes back to my (many) other points about what a bad AD Beta Blake is. Yes, it's a battle. Yes, we are a small private school. Yes, the competition for the entertainment dollar has increased, and SoFla is now home to the five major sports leagues (let's not forget that Miami only got its SECOND pro sports franchise, the Heat, in 1988, and didn't get baseball or hockey until the 1990s).

Beta Blake needs to stop kowtowing to the Golden Canes and build a gameday experience that will appeal to non-UM-alum fans. And he sure as **** can't **** off the UM alums by moving the group tailgating (Green) lot to the south side of NW 199th. We need to lower the price of tickets, concessions, and parking (and Hard Rock shouldn't give a ****e, as they have a million other tennis and Formula 1 events there now anyhow).

Beta Blake must find a way to appeal to families with kids and provide pre-game activities that give people a reason to brave the heat and (possible) rain. He needs to use surveys and human interaction to figure out what works and doesn't work with the SoFla sports crowd. For instance, how can MLB teams schedule dozens of games with giveaways (bobbleheads, batting helmets, mini bats), and our football program can't do 6 or 7 giveaways? ****, whoever kept their "Dwayne Johnson" Bumblebee trading card from 1992-93 made a KILLING (and I had the whole set, I just lost them years ago).

You could do pre-game happy hour prices. Orlando City Soccer has reduced price hot dogs, soda, water, and beer during the pre-game. Bring food trucks to the parking lots. Use the tennis courts for kiddie activities before games.

WHATEVER IT TAKES, but Beta Blake does nothing. He puts on his Baby Gap blazer and chinos and walks around slapping the backs of the Golden Canes.
 
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I was talking to someone who is in the front office for the stadium and the fins about how they can make the open seats less noticeable. It looks worse because of the teal seats, very polarizing.

Besides that, they have turned the stadium into an elitist scum bucket, where home side 100 level is basically never filled because they turned it into an underground country club that no one wants to sit in. They just hang out in the aircondition, even for big dolphins games.

The stadium has gone too far to the high end sports fan (e.g. NFL) and its not the same product or pricepoint for UM. This is another Shalala ****up.
 
gabedm said:
I was talking to someone who is in the front office for the stadium and the fins about how they can make the open seats less noticeable. It looks worse because of the teal seats, very polarizing.

Besides that, they have turned the stadium into an elitist scum bucket, where home side 100 level is basically never filled because they turned it into an underground country club that no one wants to sit in. They just hang out in the aircondition, even for big dolphins games.

The stadium has gone too far to the high end sports fan (e.g. NFL) and its not the same product or pricepoint for UM. This is another Shalala ****up.
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Sat in living room seats for 5 years for canes games. Was usually maybe 3 to 4 rows ever filled. Best football seats in America but I completely agree that most just sit in the ac inside like it’s a country club event
 
hurricaneman said:
Tennessee, coming off a 3-7 year, had 82,000 people attend the game vs Pittsburgh.

Alabama had 95,000 people show up for Mercer.

Oklahoma had 87,000 people for Western Carolina.

These people have absolutely nothing to do. You can think it's cool that they can fill those giant stadiums for meaningless games, I think it's sad. We are a small private school with a lot of alumni from up North in an area full of Miami, UF, and FSU fans. And it's South Florida.
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Tennessee has had attendance problems for years. The last couple of years Alabama was not selling out either and people (students) were leaving the game early. It’s one of the reasons they have redone their stadium.
 
Unless we are playing a big time opponent, they need to tarp the upper deck endzones. For the vast majority of games, those sections are 80-90% empty. It just looks silly.

Also wish they could do something about the home side midfield coach seats. They're always empty.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
I agree completely. On a "per capita" basis, we do pretty well. But nobody ever gives us credit for that, they just post pictures of lots of empty seats.

I've been going to games since 1986. A few years (such as 1990) coincided with being defending national champs, and optimism was high. And it always helped to host F$U in the Orange Bowl.

This goes back to my (many) other points about what a bad AD Beta Blake is. Yes, it's a battle. Yes, we are a small private school. Yes, the competition for the entertainment dollar has increased, and SoFla is now home to the five major sports leagues (let's not forget that Miami only got its SECOND pro sports franchise, the Heat, in 1988, and didn't get baseball or hockey until the 1990s).

Beta Blake needs to stop kowtowing to the Golden Canes and build a gameday experience that will appeal to non-UM-alum fans. And he sure as **** can't **** off the UM alums by moving the group tailgating (Green) lot to the south side of NW 199th. We need to lower the price of tickets, concessions, and parking (and Hard Rock shouldn't give a ****e, as they have a million other tennis and Formula 1 events there now anyhow).

Beta Blake must find a way to appeal to families with kids and provide pre-game activities that give people a reason to brave the heat and (possible) rain. He needs to use surveys and human interaction to figure out what works and doesn't work with the SoFla sports crowd. For instance, how can MLB teams schedule dozens of games with giveaways (bobbleheads, batting helmets, mini bats), and our football program can't do 6 or 7 giveaways? ****, whoever kept their "Dwayne Johnson" Bumblebee trading card from 1992-93 made a KILLING (and I had the whole set, I just lost them years ago).

You could do pre-game happy hour prices. Orlando City Soccer has reduced price hot dogs, soda, water, and beer during the pre-game. Bring food trucks to the parking lots. Use the tennis courts for kiddie activities before games.

WHATEVER IT TAKES, but Beta Blake does nothing. He puts on his Baby Gap blazer and chinos and walks around slapping the backs of the Golden Canes.
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What is baffling how Ross seems totally willing to throw the bread and butter fans (Dolphins, Canes, concertgoers) under the bus (re: Green Lot, parking situation) on the altar of Tennis and (very, very speculatively) F1.

I wonder how many GPs they imagine will get run here to justify ****ing off the people who attend far more events.
 
Gables Canes said:
Unless we are playing a big time opponent, they need to tarp the upper deck endzones. For the vast majority of games, those sections are 80-90% empty. It just looks silly.

Also wish they could do something about the home side midfield coach seats. They're always empty.
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Tarps look stupider than empty seats.
 
Dude said:
I know attendance has been an issue for years... but looking around college football its hard to understand how we can ever compete with Ohio St., Alabama, Georgia, Clemson etc. when we cant sell out a home opener after Covid restrictions or pack the house 3 out of 6 games a year... maybe 70% the other 3. But what stings the most is that there seems to be zero plan to fix this AND zero sh*ts given. To me that pretty much sums up our Athletic Department... Zero Sh*ts Given.
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Tolbert Bain was on Footballville and he brought up something interesting.

He was wondering why they don't allot tickets for the local grade schools.
It'll help fill the stadium more and there will inevitably be future football recruits (and even perspective academic applicants) in that crowd every week.
Almost like how Richt started doing the visits to all the youth league teams a few years back.

Maybe there's a logistical barrier or maybe they already do it. I don't know.

But if it isn't being done and it CAN be done, I think it would be a good idea.
 
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Dude said:
I know attendance has been an issue for years... but looking around college football its hard to understand how we can ever compete with Ohio St., Alabama, Georgia, Clemson etc. when we cant sell out a home opener after Covid restrictions or pack the house 3 out of 6 games a year... maybe 70% the other 3. But what stings the most is that there seems to be zero plan to fix this AND zero sh*ts given. To me that pretty much sums up our Athletic Department... Zero Sh*ts Given.
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what's your suggestion?
 
I've always felt we can't compare ourselves to those other schools. We're not the state school located in the middle of nowhere with nothing else to do. EVERY sport in Miami has to compete for eyes (Marlins, Heat, Phins) it just is what it is. Who's ND, Ohio St, Michigan, etc. competing with? The local bars? Frat party? I could sell out a turtle race with that captive audience.
 
razrcane said:
Tennessee has had attendance problems for years. The last couple of years Alabama was not selling out either and people (students) were leaving the game early. It’s one of the reasons they have redone their stadium.
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yep and Saban called out the students for leaving...
 
If Miami beat Alabama, or even came close the App St. game attendance would have tripled! Listen I'm not going to a game this year. The University of Miami
doesn't go the extra mile for the team. Why should I?
 
UF, for instance, could (and does) have a tiny fraction of alums who choose to attend one home game a year. But that tiny fraction, each home week, amounts to thousands of people.

Many SEC teams, Florida included, fill up their away allotment easily, as they aren't geographically distant from other schools. We get hardly any away fans because we are far away. The only exception is F$U.

I don't know why people gloss over these obvious facts.
 
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Dude said:
I know attendance has been an issue for years... but looking around college football its hard to understand how we can ever compete with Ohio St., Alabama, Georgia, Clemson etc. when we cant sell out a home opener after Covid restrictions or pack the house 3 out of 6 games a year... maybe 70% the other 3. But what stings the most is that there seems to be zero plan to fix this AND zero sh*ts given. To me that pretty much sums up our Athletic Department... Zero Sh*ts Given.
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What exactly would a plan to fix this be? And how do you know there isn't one?

I'm sure they're actively talking about it and are running promotions all the time. Their sales people are probably paid a commission, and want to sell as many tickets as possible.

This is a dumb post.
 
When the coach suck *** you make threads like this, acting like this is anything new, good or bad season
 
Dude said:
I know attendance has been an issue for years... but looking around college football its hard to understand how we can ever compete with Ohio St., Alabama, Georgia, Clemson etc. when we cant sell out a home opener after Covid restrictions or pack the house 3 out of 6 games a year... maybe 70% the other 3. But what stings the most is that there seems to be zero plan to fix this AND zero sh*ts given. To me that pretty much sums up our Athletic Department... Zero Sh*ts Given.
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Do you have season tickets/attend games?
 
JeddTheFisch said:
A lot of people don't know this, but we actually sell a lot of season tickets for a CFB program, and a TON relative to the size of the school.

I believe this peaked in 1990 at 57,000. I think 1990 had pretty good attendance numbers, though rarely full (lots of figures in the 50,000, but still lower than the # of season tickets sold).

If we were at that level of a program, we'd have better attendance.

However, we'd still get 750 for a high noon vs. Central Connecticut.
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Don't provide actual facts. It would go over the head of many posting on this board who never attend games but love to talk.
 
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