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No matter how many years here, they are what they are, every time you hand off to Harris its a wasted play, McCloud on field is playing with one less player.. Flagg is already worse than him and he is maxed out, he should take them slow *** boxing punches and focus on that cuz he even slower on the field. You build a defense around him as your MLB I dont care how much experience or how many years he is here, we will look like we have no lbs on field as DBs make ALL the tackles after back gets a ton of yards, if the stop isnt behind los its 10+ yards down field. You cant recruit 5'9 fat, out of shape, AND slow af LB, there is no upside. We play defense with no LB and MCloud, thats like playing 8 on 11..

Harris is a waste, McCloud Waste, I saw more from Elijah in one pass rush where he punch and ripped than Mccloud in whole career, I dont care where you put Carter, he is here 6 years, he gonna miss tackles, If you believe in those guys like our corches you will see similar results. All on manny, he is a clown for not bringing in some real LB. Defense is a mess..
 
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225Hurricane said:
McClouds been doing better at the line then he’s ever been at LBr…he’s been ok
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Bro, Im gonna have to call you out.. "ok" means sucks but I want to be nice, "ok" means jag.. We just went thru a renaissance era of Major 9, Garvin, Joe jackson, Rousseau, Phillips and we drop off a cliff to "ok".. Man WTF?! The delusion of blake and Diaz is now trickling to our fans, man we cant win anything of importance with scrubs like this.. This dude has ONE solo tackle, ZERO sacks, unless that solo was a tfl ZERO tfl (couldnt find info), this is your starting DE 3 games into season..

Below was posted in paper and I think this mentality has infiltrated fanbase, they dont watch college ball maybe only hurrices, so they dont know what real talent looks like, they overrate what they see on greentree and say we are fastest team and other bs and players who are scrubs are better now, we ******* SUCK.. We dont know what championship ball looks like, we are now cool with "ok" players who produce **** playing on the field because they are good guys, man this is bizarro world, sigh

▪ The former Canes All American player said one problem is that the UM football program employs “too many people who don’t know what a championship team, a winning organization, looks like. Other than Ed Reed — who isn’t there a lot — nobody there has won championships. Guys they think are good players are just guys.”
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crossover22[]_[] said:
Do people ever stop and think that maybe they haven't been developed by our terrible coaching staff?
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Man when players on the field, regardless of corching, you have to make plays.. Im not good with the video clips but go look at Charleston Rambo when he catches a ball, even a five yard hitch.. First guy is not gonna tackle him, he gonna make someone miss and make a play.. Dude was balling sooooo hard in first half, he needed rest, they put Wiggins in and he runs same play, he gets tackled immediately, he cant make a play, SCRUB.. We already knew that tho, You cant win with those types of players.. Good thing after Rambo had 10 catches at the half we stopped goin to him..



PS: Coaches suck also and this post is not a deflection of that, I agree with you but Saban aint doing what he do with Camron Harris or McCloud types, he gets the best of best and if you cant cut it you are phased the **** out.. At miami, if you suck, you get reassigned new position starting spot.. I dont care where you move some of these guys, if you a jag, you a jag
 
I get your point but this year those guys are way down the list of problems. Harris looks ok with decent line play. McCloud actually contributes as DE (but with any depth he'd be a backup). I'd point my ire at the safeties, LBs, OL, and TE. That's where it's really fallen apart.
 
skyman said:
Man when players on the field, regardless of corching, you have to make plays.. Im not good with the video clips but go look at Charleston Rambo when he catches a ball, even a five yard hitch.. First guy is not gonna tackle him, he gonna make someone miss and make a play.. Dude was balling sooooo hard in first half, he needed rest, they put Wiggins in and he runs same play, he gets tackled immediately, he cant make a play, SCRUB.. We already knew that tho, You cant win with those types of players.. Good thing after Rambo had 10 catches at the half we stopped goin to him..



PS: Coaches suck also and this post is not a deflection of that, I agree with you but Saban aint doing what he do with Camron Harris or McCloud types, he gets the best of best and if you cant cut it you are phased the **** out.. At miami, if you suck, you get reassigned new position starting spot.. I dont care where you move some of these guys, if you a jag, you a jag
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Rambo was developed by a good coach
 
Trav said:
I get your point but this year those guys are way down the list of problems. Harris looks ok with decent line play. McCloud actually contributes as DE (but with any depth he'd be a backup). I'd point my ire at the safeties, LBs, OL, and TE. That's where it's really fallen apart.
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I agree with you, right now its basically a sinking ship and there seems too many holes to plug. I questioned LB all season when people were depending on ******* flagg to save the core at MLB, I knew we were in big trouble, he is an almost type player, he will always be around the ball and almost make the play but he dont got the juice to get it done..

I also questioned Oline and asked when people harked on returning starts and experience, does experience do your team good if the experience sucks? We are in trouble..
 
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skyman said:
Bro, Im gonna have to call you out.. "ok" means sucks but I want to be nice, "ok" means jag.. We just went thru a renaissance era of Major 9, Garvin, Joe jackson, Rousseau, Phillips and we drop off a cliff to "ok".. Man WTF?! The delusion of blake and Diaz is now trickling to our fans, man we cant win anything of importance with scrubs like this.. This dude has ONE solo tackle, ZERO sacks, unless that solo was a tfl ZERO tfl (couldnt find info), this is your starting DE 3 games into season..

Below was posted in paper and I think this mentality has infiltrated fanbase, they dont watch college ball maybe only hurrices, so they dont knwo what real talent looks like, they overrate what they see on greentree and say we are fastest team and other bs and players who are scrubs are better now, we ******* SUCK.. We dont know what championship ball looks like, we are now cool with "ok" players who produce **** playing on the field because they are good guys, man this is bizarro world, sigh
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But he doesnt make mistakes.
 
You guys are obsessed with this development bullchit. A 10 yard pass hit #85 right between the numbers for a TD. Would’ve made the game 14-3 early and we’re off and running. Instead we miss a FG and we’re on our way to a loss. It’s Stephen Field’s fault? Ain’t that the same dude who coached Brevin? So did he develop Brevin but not Mallory? Who developed the 17 million All-Americas and NFL picks we’ve had? Must have been a ton of good coaches to develop all these scrubs into pros.

Enough of this BS. The staff deserves a ton of blame for this pathetic excuse for football. But **** at some point you gotta play ball. Run, block, catch, tackle. That ain’t all on the **** staff. Rob Likens “developed” multiple NFL first round picks. Now he gets here and Mike Harley can’t catch a cold. He forget how to coach?? Or the ******* kids aren’t holding up their end of the bargain either? Y’all really think every single thing that happens is Manny’s fault or Blake James’ fault. Football players play football. The kids on this team have been pretty pathetic at doing that for a while now. The coaching sucks but **** not every thing that happens is due to poor coaching. Catch a touchdown pass when it hits you in the chest in the endzone, for one.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
You guys are obsessed with this development bullchit. A 10 yard pass hit #85 right between the numbers for a TD. Would’ve made the game 14-3 early and we’re off and running. Instead we miss a FG and we’re on our way to a loss. It’s Stephen Field’s fault? Ain’t that the same dude who coached Brevin? So did he develop Brevin but not Mallory? Who developed the 17 million All-Americas and NFL picks we’ve had? Must have been a ton of good coaches to develop all these scrubs into pros.

Enough of this BS. The staff deserves a ton of blame for this pathetic excuse for football. But **** at some point you gotta play ball. Run, block, catch, tackle. That ain’t all on the **** staff. Rob Likens “developed” multiple NFL first round picks. Now he gets here and Mike Harley can’t catch a cold. He forget how to coach?? Or the ******* kids aren’t holding up their end of the bargain either? Y’all really think every single thing that happens is Manny’s fault or Blake James’ fault. Football players play football. The kids on this team have been pretty pathetic at doing that for a while now. The coaching sucks but **** not every thing that happens is due to poor coaching. Catch a touchdown pass when it hits you in the chest in the endzone, for one.
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I agree mostly. The players need to hold up their end of the bargain but the coaches have to set a high standard and hold the players accountable.

No one is getting disciplined when they make major mistakes. If you drop a TD, you stay in and get a high-five from the head coach.

These kids will continue to play at a low level because (some of them) are lazy and don't care. They know they can get away with it.

I watched Saban pull a WR and give him a long, legit talk on the sidelines during the Miami game. Later they asked Saban what he said to the guy and he explained it.

Bottom line: There's no consequences for actions on this team, and if you're one of Manny's guys (McCloud, Carter) you can literally get away with murder and he will put you on the field over highly talented youngsters.
 
225Hurricane said:
McClouds been doing better at the line then he’s ever been at LBr…he’s been ok
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skyman said:
Man when players on the field, regardless of corching, you have to make plays.. Im not good with the video clips but go look at Charleston Rambo when he catches a ball, even a five yard hitch.. First guy is not gonna tackle him, he gonna make someone miss and make a play.. Dude was balling sooooo hard in first half, he needed rest, they put Wiggins in and he runs same play, he gets tackled immediately, he cant make a play, SCRUB.. We already knew that tho, You cant win with those types of players.. Good thing after Rambo had 10 catches at the half we stopped goin to him..



PS: Coaches suck also and this post is not a deflection of that, I agree with you but Saban aint doing what he do with Camron Harris or McCloud types, he gets the best of best and if you cant cut it you are phased the **** out.. At miami, if you suck, you get reassigned new position starting spot.. I dont care where you move some of these guys, if you a jag, you a jag
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Bro, it’s no coincidence that are best players are transfers and one yr rentals. If that same transfer is here for more than one yr, their play falls off each yr (see Bolden).
 
Put Kenneth on UM and Cam on MSU and we blow them out. Did MSU coach up Kenneth a backup transfer from Wake to suddenly break 4 tackles a play? Or did Mel just luck into an amazing talent who is dramatically better than any RB we have? Talent, we dont have it. Start with that

Then add some discipline and accountability and we'd be 5x better
 
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skyman said:
Bro, Im gonna have to call you out.. "ok" means sucks but I want to be nice, "ok" means jag.. We just went thru a renaissance era of Major 9, Garvin, Joe jackson, Rousseau, Phillips and we drop off a cliff to "ok".. Man WTF?! The delusion of blake and Diaz is now trickling to our fans, man we cant win anything of importance with scrubs like this.. This dude has ONE solo tackle, ZERO sacks, unless that solo was a tfl ZERO tfl (couldnt find info), this is your starting DE 3 games into season..

Below was posted in paper and I think this mentality has infiltrated fanbase, they dont watch college ball maybe only hurrices, so they dont know what real talent looks like, they overrate what they see on greentree and say we are fastest team and other bs and players who are scrubs are better now, we ******* SUCK.. We dont know what championship ball looks like, we are now cool with "ok" players who produce **** playing on the field because they are good guys, man this is bizarro world, sigh
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He has been okay..I didn’t say he been Greatt and second he has been better at DE then at LBr…once again I didn’t say he was lighting N a bottle Calm down.. I know it’s been a rough start to the season and everyone wants results…We R all going to have to B patience…🤣
 
skyman said:
Bro, Im gonna have to call you out.. "ok" means sucks but I want to be nice, "ok" means jag.. We just went thru a renaissance era of Major 9, Garvin, Joe jackson, Rousseau, Phillips and we drop off a cliff to "ok".. Man WTF?! The delusion of blake and Diaz is now trickling to our fans, man we cant win anything of importance with scrubs like this.. This dude has ONE solo tackle, ZERO sacks, unless that solo was a tfl ZERO tfl (couldnt find info), this is your starting DE 3 games into season..

Below was posted in paper and I think this mentality has infiltrated fanbase, they dont watch college ball maybe only hurrices, so they dont know what real talent looks like, they overrate what they see on greentree and say we are fastest team and other bs and players who are scrubs are better now, we ******* SUCK.. We dont know what championship ball looks like, we are now cool with "ok" players who produce **** playing on the field because they are good guys, man this is bizarro world, sigh
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He has better at DE than LBr..I didn’t say he knocking out park..wow..Calm down family.. I know it’s a rough start to the season and probably going to get worse…so I feel your pain fam…but we have long way to go before we return to Greatness..
 
skyman said:
Man when players on the field, regardless of corching, you have to make plays.. Im not good with the video clips but go look at Charleston Rambo when he catches a ball, even a five yard hitch.. First guy is not gonna tackle him, he gonna make someone miss and make a play.. Dude was balling sooooo hard in first half, he needed rest, they put Wiggins in and he runs same play, he gets tackled immediately, he cant make a play, SCRUB.. We already knew that tho, You cant win with those types of players.. Good thing after Rambo had 10 catches at the half we stopped goin to him..



PS: Coaches suck also and this post is not a deflection of that, I agree with you but Saban aint doing what he do with Camron Harris or McCloud types, he gets the best of best and if you cant cut it you are phased the **** out.. At miami, if you suck, you get reassigned new position starting spot.. I dont care where you move some of these guys, if you a jag, you a jag
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Saban would not have started Harris over Chaney. Only in Miami.
 
skyman said:
Bro, Im gonna have to call you out.. "ok" means sucks but I want to be nice, "ok" means jag.. We just went thru a renaissance era of Major 9, Garvin, Joe jackson, Rousseau, Phillips and we drop off a cliff to "ok".. Man WTF?! The delusion of blake and Diaz is now trickling to our fans, man we cant win anything of importance with scrubs like this.. This dude has ONE solo tackle, ZERO sacks, unless that solo was a tfl ZERO tfl (couldnt find info), this is your starting DE 3 games into season..

Below was posted in paper and I think this mentality has infiltrated fanbase, they dont watch college ball maybe only hurrices, so they dont know what real talent looks like, they overrate what they see on greentree and say we are fastest team and other bs and players who are scrubs are better now, we ******* SUCK.. We dont know what championship ball looks like, we are now cool with "ok" players who produce **** playing on the field because they are good guys, man this is bizarro world, sigh
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Over the last couple of years I find myself changing the Miami games. I just can’t watch every play anymore

And it makes it even worse

I can flip on pretty much any game at any given time and watch teams making plays left and right

I know our fans watch other games, especially big ones, but go watch some mediocre teams if you really want to see how bad we are
 
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