Xavier Lucas

[Nico]

Can we appeal this or something

The ACC can appeal the suspension portion to the NCAA’s national coordinator of football officials. The coordinator reviews the video evidence independently. The suspension will be vacated only if it is clearly obvious that the disqualification was incorrect (i.e., no targeting occurred).

 

[CreativeCane]

Im not aware of an appeal process. Is there one?

Appeals process approved for football players called for targeting in the second half

Measures will be taken to address teams that appear to fake injuries.

www.ncaa.com

 

[JHallCanes]

If you’re gonna call targeting then call targeting

It was a bull**** call but it was worse because they picked up the one against Ole Miss

Can’t do both

 

[LexCane55]

Have to think OJ and Brown have a chance

 

[P-Tizzle]

You’re fine. I’m just tired of it. We’ve been down 20 something years - I don’t care who supported who more. People had legitimate reasons to praise and criticize at different points. This isn’t being ruined for me or anyone else.

We are going to the national championship game.

 

[RVACane]

We are going to the national championship game.

Exactly. It’s been 24 or 25 years. Let the people enjoy the moment. It may not happen again. Or it might.

 

[caneingville]

Ok, but the first thing he hit was also a shoulder.

Right. So it’s confusing, because 1) the shoulder is included in the rules (there are actually two targeting rules!) as a body part that counts as a led with / hit with body part, and 2) the neck area counts as a body part that gets hit. So both things qualify according to the rules.

I explained the targeting rules and why they suck in this post, if you are interested.

Post in thread 'Do you realize how one non-call finally went our way...'

Dec 23, 2025

This just enables bad calls:

This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below). When in question, it is a foul (Rules 2-27-14 and 9-6). (A.R. 9-1-4-I-VI)

Yes, I broke this down similarly earlier this season. The rules are written incredibly poorly and in such a way that pretty much every big hit can be interpreted to be targeted. Make no mistake, this was intentional so that the NCAA can stick its head in the sand and cry willful ignorance in case there is ever a concussion lawsuit.

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Most people don't know this, but there...

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[919cane]

Targeting should just be for when you egregiously try and decapitate a dude across the middle, not this ticky tack **** where players are just trying to make a tackle.

 

[U_Canes]

It’d be nice if Brantley was still around….

 

[edge]

They will win that appeal. What on earth could he possibly have done different?

 

[canes1977]

Big 10 refs punishing Lucas for leaving Wisconsin

 

[9oh4Cane]

Looked like he got hurt on that play too

 

[poncho0091]

Wild that they upheld this targeting after pulling back the one where Toney got hit.

 

[skyman]

 

[TOcane]

Right. So it’s confusing, because 1) the shoulder is included in the rules (there are actually two targeting rules!) as a body part that counts as a led with / hit with body part, and 2) the neck area counts as a body part that gets hit. So both things qualify according to the rules.

I explained the targeting rules and why they suck in this post, if you are interested.

Post in thread 'Do you realize how one non-call finally went our way...'

Dec 23, 2025

This just enables bad calls:

This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below). When in question, it is a foul (Rules 2-27-14 and 9-6). (A.R. 9-1-4-I-VI)

Yes, I broke this down similarly earlier this season. The rules are written incredibly poorly and in such a way that pretty much every big hit can be interpreted to be targeted. Make no mistake, this was intentional so that the NCAA can stick its head in the sand and cry willful ignorance in case there is ever a concussion lawsuit.

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Most people don't know this, but there...

• caneingville

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I see there are two parts but the shoulder was the first point of contact on BOTH players not the head or neck unless I am missing something else which is very possible.

 

[IRememberSchnelly]

The targeting rules are a disgrace and never should have been introduced. I can't help but feel that they were deliberately structured to give refs the ability to put their thumb on the scale of the outcome of a game, as they see fit. They are so ambiguous and open to individualized interpretation that refs are completely immunized against criticism for getting calls wrong.

 

[Ryanmilli]

Targeting should just be for when you egregiously try and decapitate a dude across the middle, not this ticky tack **** where players are just trying to make a tackle.

Especially when the offensive player ducks into the targeting, which is what happened here. Lucas was already in the process of making the hit and the guy lowered his head right into it. There is nothing you can do to prevent that as the tackler.

 

[xbobdog]

I am good with the targeting rules. it helps both players in the long run. I just want it evenly applied. I don't believe either of those hits should have been targeting. The first because it was just a collision that happened to involve the heads and second because he got low and hit with his shoulder to the body. just my opinion.

 

[edge]

Looked like he got hurt on that play too

I feel like Lucas was another one that had the flu. He didn’t look right physically all game. He was wincing after several plays. So no I don’t think he got hurt. Hope I am right.

 

[smack99]

Whatever happened to OJ?